christian (very loosely defined) totalitarians

[bramblewild]

When people tell you who they are, believe them.

When these guys say they want the political leaders, those they call the magistrates, to take property from certain churches and give them to other churches they approve of, believe they are the religious totalitarians they are saying they are.

When one guy says he wants the magistrate to silence someone else's freedom to speak, believe him.

When they say someone else must be silenced because that other person is speaking blasphemies, believe that they are saying exactly what they think should be done.

The truth is, this kind of Christian totalitarianism has been tried. It was tried for well over 1000 years. The Catholic church had this kind of power, and the Reformed churches had that kind of power. They persecuted others, including other Christians. They legally killed believers who disagreed with them. They made laws to silence others. They took property from those who disagreed with them.

It's been tried, and it failed. And assuming people like the men in this video should ever get the power they want, which I hope never happens, it will fail just as badly, if not worse.

 

[Barbarian]

A theocracy would be a great thing. But only if we let God do it. Men who tell you that they are doing for God what He would do, if He had all the facts, are merely power-hungry tyrants using religion as a mask.

 

[bramblewild]

A theocracy would be a great thing. But only if we let God do it. Men who tell you that they are doing for God what He would do, if He had all the facts, are merely power-hungry tyrants using religion as a mask.

I'm a theocrat in the sense that the Bible teaches there will be a time when Christ Himself will return to earth and rule in person, when He will sit upon the Throne of David. But there are people who call themselves theocrats that I instead call "proxycrats", because what they want is to have people, mostly or exclusively men, to rule as proxies in the place of God or Christ. They are looking for a time when they can use political powers to implement their versions of God's laws upon most or all of the nations of the world.

 

[Barbarian]

I'm a theocrat in the sense that the Bible teaches there will be a time when Christ Himself will return to earth and rule in person, when He will sit upon the Throne of David.

That's the theocracy we need. Literally, "rule by God." Anything else is just imposters pretending to be God's designated representative. "Proxycrats"; I like that. Gonna have to steal that one.