So then, what is Worship in song, specifically? Is it mouthing words or can you worship in song silently? Is there emotion involved or can you worship without emotions? How much of it is spiritual and how much is physical? Let me qualify my questions... I sang in our Worship Team for a while. Then about a year ago our Worship leader abruptly chose to cut his first CD and overnight resigned his position. When the pastor chose a new worship leader the music became completely current Christian Contemporary worship music. At that time I noticed a real lack of reverence, not only in music worship, but just in the total church service. At that time I backed out of the Worship Team and also the choir. It has been at least that long since I have felt any form of reverence and worshipful attitude in the congregational worship and /or teaching. I'm not sure if I even know what to expect when we begin the musical aspect of our church service. The teaching, well, that's a whole other issue, but definitely worthy of mention in a different post! Thanks for your help, folks!
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jasoncran
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i'm losing respect for the contemporary music as its hardly lifting the name as it used to, yrs ago you could tell jesus was being lifted up.
i thing that ccm has become more emo then i like. that isnt to say that all those bands are bad.
i think in worship some of the newer stuff can be used. nothing wrong with these
mighty to save
our god is an awesome god
or one that i would like to see in my church
todd agnew's this fragile breathe.
i thing that ccm has become more emo then i like. that isnt to say that all those bands are bad.
i think in worship some of the newer stuff can be used. nothing wrong with these
mighty to save
our god is an awesome god
or one that i would like to see in my church
todd agnew's this fragile breathe.
jasoncran
Member
christian music.Nick said:
when avalon first came out in 98. the name jesus was in the music, gradually they have shifted to more and more an emo style. the same can be said with point of grace.
sad really i like those two.
i miss the late 90s bands like dc talk and audio adreline.
superchic while i like them and they claim to be christian has said that they address social issues not preach the gospel.
Nick
Member
Not that I remember.jasoncran said:
+1.jasoncran said:
I do some music at church, and it is hard sometimes to get caught up in us playing ,and what others will think of us (music-wise). I think it's a great prayer point that all those in the worship team (or any other kind of service) does it for the Lord, and not for man.
Cheyenne K
Member
Depends on the service. Fall to the extremes on both sides and you have short, meaningless babble or long-winded speeches. Both I have had experienced. When I was younger, we used to have a preacher at our church, who was very…poor at explaining things and his sermons went on forever. It was very boring for me, as he went off on so many tangents, and it tended to be his interpretation of the Scripture, rather than what was really there. So what resulted was a speech that may as well have been for a debate argument on theology between people with no capacity for emotion. So instead of our standard hour and a half services, it would always be about two and a half or more.
Then I went to a Catholic church, which was much shorter and only forty-five minutes. The priest was Indian and I couldn’t understand a word out of his mouth. There were a few chants which I couldn’t understand either, a short, incoherent service, and then we left. I felt no emotion and no conviction. Even with the accent, one would think the man to be at least emotional, but he was rather monotone the entire time.
But you can have short and powerful sermons and long and beautiful sermons as well. It seems to depends on the speaker and the church members. Because neither too short nor too long is good to have, as eventually, through both, I believe the conviction will be lost. The short may become too rushed and the long more so about being drawn out for as great a time as possible.
It’s not necessarily the length that should determine a church service, but the worship, conviction, etc. Because it really depends on how a person addresses the Scripture. Sometimes it needs to be long, some times it needs to be short.
Personally though, I think about an hour and a half is a good service length; however, time should not necessarily be restricted strictly just to that.
Then I went to a Catholic church, which was much shorter and only forty-five minutes. The priest was Indian and I couldn’t understand a word out of his mouth. There were a few chants which I couldn’t understand either, a short, incoherent service, and then we left. I felt no emotion and no conviction. Even with the accent, one would think the man to be at least emotional, but he was rather monotone the entire time.
But you can have short and powerful sermons and long and beautiful sermons as well. It seems to depends on the speaker and the church members. Because neither too short nor too long is good to have, as eventually, through both, I believe the conviction will be lost. The short may become too rushed and the long more so about being drawn out for as great a time as possible.
It’s not necessarily the length that should determine a church service, but the worship, conviction, etc. Because it really depends on how a person addresses the Scripture. Sometimes it needs to be long, some times it needs to be short.
Personally though, I think about an hour and a half is a good service length; however, time should not necessarily be restricted strictly just to that.
Adullam
Member
In a participatory NT meeting where everyone excercises their gifts and freedom, a typical 30 person meeting can last for 4 hours. Too many people in the same meeting makes it impossible for everyone to participate. This also makes the meetings that much longer. In our experience a meeting becomes unwieldly after 50 people. And you're looking at a five hour meeting at least to allow the Spirit to do His work.
The diversification of all these answers say a lot, what ever floats your boat I guess. Personally I prefer a service to be about an hour 15 minutes to an hour and a half.
I'm in an evangelical church that I think is well balanced and diverse. Our services are first praise and worship in song for about 30 minutes, 40-45 minute sermon, close with both prayer and praise in song.
It's not always regimented the same and I think that's important, because regiment creates routine, and routine leads to complacency.
As our God is a living God, I can't attend services where it's obviously dead in the Spirit. I'm guessing that in the Kingdom of Heaven we will multi-task just like God; praise and worship all the time while doing service, duties, and tasks for the Lord.
I'm in an evangelical church that I think is well balanced and diverse. Our services are first praise and worship in song for about 30 minutes, 40-45 minute sermon, close with both prayer and praise in song.
It's not always regimented the same and I think that's important, because regiment creates routine, and routine leads to complacency.
As our God is a living God, I can't attend services where it's obviously dead in the Spirit. I'm guessing that in the Kingdom of Heaven we will multi-task just like God; praise and worship all the time while doing service, duties, and tasks for the Lord.
Ours comes complete with a laptop sitting on one of the music stands. During worship our leader refers to it as "Mac the Drummer". Either the leader or "Mac" seems to misfire a lot causing little disruptions during said worship. I usually get pretty frosted at such irreverence and constantly find myself wishing that I had parking lot/security duty that day!handy said:
Vic C.
Member
Our Praise and Worship portion of the service consists of two small sets of music (traditional Baptist hymns on the first Sunday of the month to coincide with the Lord's Supper) with a Deacon conducting prayer and praises in between the two sets, followed by a 5-10 minute "children's time", where the children come up front and center with the youth pastor.handy said:
Mike McClurg
Member
I learned by trail and error when I was young Preacher,
That as far as sermons go
You can receive only as much as your back side can take
That as far as sermons go
You can receive only as much as your back side can take