Churches getting infliltrated by Satanists and how to deal with them?

[Lance_Iguana]

Lance~

How quickly people turn on others!

Like those people you called Satanists and blamed for your Pastors own faults? You turned on them pretty quick.

I never lied.

You said didn't watch the video, then said you did. You also showed to have no idea what a Satanist is.

Did I tell you when I looked at the video?

I don't care. You were to eager to tell me what is what before confirming anything.

You need to apologize for stirring the pot here.

Nope, I'm not apologizing because I called you out for spreading false information. You are manipulative and falsely accused people with no evidence. It really dosen't matter, because in a few minutes I'll be off doing something else and chuckling at the idea that someone wants me to apologize over a discussion.

I do not exaggerate, either.

Riiiiight, because Satanists go out in field and do bonfire worship ceremonies and go into town to brag about their curses. XD. They totally aren't a philosophical group formed from the writings of Anto Levay.

I've met the real deal.

Why should I publish the name of a church that has had trouble in the past? That is merely gossip and I refuse to do such a thing.

Nah, you just don't want us googleing your claims. ;)

I know about Satanists. Believe me!

No you don't, because so far you haven't gotten a single thing right about what Satanism is. I won't believe you because you won't source anything or give me a reason to believe you.

Why so antagonistic?

You are possibly blamming people you don't know, yet have assumed to know for things that are easily explained otherwise.

Why do you appear to defend the enemy?

How are these people the enemy? You don't even know who these people are or what Satanism even is? I don't even think these people exist.

 

[Chris]

This video i found. Is this really happening? Christian churches are apparently getting infiltratet by Satanists.

THE SKY IS FALLING!!!! The SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!

OOps - maybe it isn't - never mind.

If a Satanist comes into your church - lead Him to the Lord. Problem solved. He that is IN you is greater than he who is within the world.

If You're "Afraid of him", then you need to look into your OWN "Christianity" first.

Through the last 50 years that I've been Christian, there have been any number of "Groups" that were supposedly "infiltrating the church", and gonna destroy it. There was the WCC, there were satanists, there were "witches", there were the humanists, Judaizers, Ultimate reconciliationists, (shudder) Catholics, and Lord knows what -

No Biggie, God's plan is ON schedule, and IN budget till the end of the age.

bingo- We are doomed again.- lol doomed from people who profit from writing books about paranoia to people dumb enough to buy books about this stuff.
we were doomed_
new age
1999 world end
y2k computers no food
2008 too
2012- nothing will happen
kundalini- thats the latest, because of the toronto blessing, I was in stitches over that laughed so hard my sides hurt. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBpw2oQrvMM&feature=player_detailpage)seriously I was in tears over it, the last third of it. Guess what a book was for sale how to survive it. We are doomed again, run for cover!
what bob says is right sensible yay!

 

[Alabaster]

Like those people you called Satanists and blamed for your Pastors own faults? You turned on them pretty quick. You said didn't watch the video, then said you did. You also showed to have no idea what a Satanist is. I don't care. You were to eager to tell me what is what before confirming anything.

Nope, I'm not apologizing because I called you out for spreading false information. You are manipulative and falsely accused people with no evidence. It really dosen't matter, because in a few minutes I'll be off doing something else and chuckling at the idea that someone wants me to apologize over a discussion.

Suit yourself. My conscience is clear.

Riiiiight, because Satanists go out in field and do bonfire worship ceremonies and go into town to brag about their curses. XD. They totally aren't a philosophical group formed from the writings of Anto Levay.

I've met the real deal.

None of them are very bright, anyway.

Who have you met?

Nah, you just don't want us googleing your claims. ;)

As if it would be Google-able!

No you don't, because so far you haven't gotten a single thing right about what Satanism is. I won't believe you because you won't source anything or give me a reason to believe you. You are possibly blamming people you don't know, yet have assumed to know for things that are easily explained otherwise.How are these people the enemy? You don't even know who these people are or what Satanism even is? I don't even think these people exist.

I know what Satanism is and I know what it does to people and families. It is sick.

If you don't think they exist, then---bye-bye! I know they do.

 

[theLords]

Lance and Alabaster please take this conversation to PMs. Any further posts will be deleted.

Thank you.

 

[Alabaster]

Let us not forget, what the enemy fails to see.

We have God with us, and if God be for us, who can be against us, let the plots of the wicked unravel before the the power and glory of our Lord.


What's the worst that could happen, a couple of them actually get saved.

Amen! I agree.

2 Corinthians 10:4-5
We use God’s mighty weapons, not worldly weapons, to knock down the strongholds of human reasoning and to destroy false arguments. We destroy every proud obstacle that keeps people from knowing God. We capture their rebellious thoughts and teach them to obey Christ.

 

[Elijah674]

The old timers used to say that if it walked like a duck, and quacked like a duck, then it must be a duck!

--Elijah

 

[theLords]

The old timers used to say that if it walked like a duck, and quacked like a duck, then it must be a duck!

--Elijah

Do these ducks sell insurance by any chance?

[video=youtube;O-EZf56AfYc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-EZf56AfYc[/video]

 

[Elijah674]

Do these ducks sell insurance by any chance?

[video=youtube;O-EZf56AfYc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-EZf56AfYc[/video]

??? Sounds as if they get their foot in your computor door, & you can't get the door shut! So I just block them out. And then take a Spiritual huh! + Titus 3:9-11

--Elijah

 

[jasoncran]

AFLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ONE Of the good insurances from my state.

 

[Alabaster]

??? Sounds as if they get their foot in your computor door, & you can't get the door shut! So I just block them out. And then take a Spiritual huh! + Titus 3:9-11

--Elijah

Real nice.

Titus 3:9-11 Amp. is great:
<sup id="en-AMP-29931" class="versenum">9</sup>But avoid stupid and foolish controversies and genealogies and dissensions and wrangling about the Law, for they are unprofitable and futile.

<sup id="en-AMP-29932" class="versenum">10</sup>[As for] a man who is factious [a heretical sectarian and cause of divisions], after admonishing him a first and second time, reject [him from your fellowship and have nothing more to do with him], <sup id="en-AMP-29933" class="versenum">11</sup>Well aware that such a person has utterly changed (is perverted and corrupted); he goes on sinning [though he] is convicted of guilt and self-condemned.


Add to it this:

Ecclesiastes 10 12-15 Amp.:
<sup id="en-AMP-17506" class="versenum">12</sup>The words of a wise man's mouth are gracious and win him favor, but the lips of a fool consume him.

<sup id="en-AMP-17507" class="versenum">13</sup>The beginning of the words of his mouth is foolishness, and the end of his talk is wicked madness.
<sup id="en-AMP-17508" class="versenum">14</sup>A fool also multiplies words, though no man can tell what will be--and what will happen after he is gone, who can tell him? <sup id="en-AMP-17509" class="versenum">15</sup>The labor of fools wearies every one of them, because [he is so ignorant of the ordinary matters that] he does not even know how to get to town.

 

[MinutemanX]

billy graham? post that evidence of this.

Easy. just do a quick youtube search for Billy Graham and Robert Schuller. You can hear it straight from his mouth. I don't really know what to make of it. He seems to have done so much for the gospel and I've heard old stuff by him teaching that Jesus was the only way. Its sad. It seems our Luciferic presidents have been influencing him, more than the other way around.

ps I'd post a direct link but youtube is blocked at my work

 

[Alabaster]

YouTube is full of sensationalist claptrap. It is produced for the most part by people with negative biases and agendas. There is nothing authoritative in any of those kinds of denouncing videos pertaining to Billy Graham. Run from such junk!

 

[MinutemanX]

YouTube is full of sensationalist claptrap. It is produced for the most part by people with negative biases and agendas. There is nothing authoritative in any of those kinds of denouncing videos pertaining to Billy Graham. Run from such junk!

turn a blind eye? Thats the sad thing about Christianity these days. Christians are either afraid or unwilling to confront anything that questions they're beliefs. A while back I was confronted with an onslaught of New Age propoganda from a guy online. Just about every Christian I talked to about it told me to "just ignore it". Well I didn't, I proved it wrong, and I'm now a much stronger Christian for it.

Robert Schuller and Billy Graham in agreement is not sensationalism. In that interview it was a sad fact... one that should inspire further questions, not burying our heads in the sand.

If youtube is garbage how is Ravi Zacharias on youtube? a brilliant Christian btw

 

[Elijah674]

The best way to find protection against this is to abide in the Lord and know Him intimately, while being strong in Biblical truth. The Shepherd protects the sheep!

Hi, here below we see all of Virgin Israel being Partakers. (see Rev. 18:4) And 36 men died because of one man's sin. But the TRUTH THAT STANDS OUT is in the last part of verse 12. Even Joshua should have inquired of the Lord befor sending these men to battle.
Josh.7 (in part)

[1] But the children of Israel committed a trespass in the accursed thing: for Achan, the son of Carmi, the son of Zabdi, the son of Zerah, of the tribe of Judah, took of the accursed thing: and the anger of the LORD was kindled against the children of Israel.

[2] And Joshua sent men from Jericho to Ai, which is beside Beth-aven, on the east side of Bethel, and spake unto them, saying, Go up and view the country. And the men went up and viewed Ai.
[3] And they returned to Joshua, and said unto him, Let not all the people go up; but let about two or three thousand men go up and smite Ai; and make not all the people to labour thither; for they are but few.

[4] So there went up thither of the people about three thousand men: and they fled before the men of Ai.
[5] And the men of Ai smote of them about thirty and six men: for they chased them from before the gate even unto Shebarim, and smote them in the going down: wherefore the hearts of the people melted, and became as water.
....
[9] For the Canaanites and all the inhabitants of the land shall hear of it, and shall environ us round, and cut off our name from the earth: and what wilt thou do unto thy great name?
[10] And the LORD said unto Joshua, Get thee up; wherefore liest thou thus upon thy face?

[11] [Israel hath sinned,] and they have also transgressed my covenant which I commanded them: for they have even taken of the accursed thing, and have also stolen, and dissembled also, and they have put it even among their own stuff.
[12] Therefore the children of Israel could not stand before their enemies, but turned their backs before their enemies, because they were accursed:


[neither will I be with you any more, except ye destroy the accursed from among you.]

(and what is the problem today?? Filthy Christ/less Church's)

And these ones were not the ones of Rev. 17:1-5!
If one reads on, they will find several opportunities for Achan + his household who surely knew of this blantant open sin, to come forward in repentence. They knew what the final outcome required for unrepentant sin. As do these ones of professed Christianity today. Obad. 1:16

--Elijah

 

[Alabaster]

turn a blind eye? Thats the sad thing about Christianity these days. Christians are either afraid or unwilling to confront anything that questions they're beliefs. A while back I was confronted with an onslaught of New Age propoganda from a guy online. Just about every Christian I talked to about it told me to "just ignore it". Well I didn't, I proved it wrong, and I'm now a much stronger Christian for it.

Robert Schuller and Billy Graham in agreement is not sensationalism. In that interview it was a sad fact... one that should inspire further questions, not burying our heads in the sand.

I have definite qualms about Schuller, but it is based on my own observation of him over many years. AS for Billy Graham, what I see is a wacky campaign of defamation.

If youtube is garbage how is Ravi Zacharias on youtube? a brilliant Christian btw

There are some honourable people in this world, that swim against the tide, thank God.

 

[jasoncran]

Real nice.

Titus 3:9-11 Amp. is great:
<sup id="en-AMP-29931" class="versenum">9</sup>But avoid stupid and foolish controversies and genealogies and dissensions and wrangling about the Law, for they are unprofitable and futile.

<sup id="en-AMP-29932" class="versenum">10</sup>[As for] a man who is factious [a heretical sectarian and cause of divisions], after admonishing him a first and second time, reject [him from your fellowship and have nothing more to do with him], <sup id="en-AMP-29933" class="versenum">11</sup>Well aware that such a person has utterly changed (is perverted and corrupted); he goes on sinning [though he] is convicted of guilt and self-condemned.


Add to it this:

Ecclesiastes 10 12-15 Amp.:
<sup id="en-AMP-17506" class="versenum">12</sup>The words of a wise man's mouth are gracious and win him favor, but the lips of a fool consume him.

<sup id="en-AMP-17507" class="versenum">13</sup>The beginning of the words of his mouth is foolishness, and the end of his talk is wicked madness.
<sup id="en-AMP-17508" class="versenum">14</sup>A fool also multiplies words, though no man can tell what will be--and what will happen after he is gone, who can tell him? <sup id="en-AMP-17509" class="versenum">15</sup>The labor of fools wearies every one of them, because [he is so ignorant of the ordinary matters that] he does not even know how to get to town.

lol, tell me you work for aflac.lol.

 

[Elijah674]

Hi, here below we see all of Virgin Israel being Partakers. (see Rev. 18:4) And 36 men died because of one man's sin. But the TRUTH THAT STANDS OUT is in the last part of verse 12. Even Joshua should have inquired of the Lord befor sending these men to battle.
Josh.7 (in part)

[1] But the children of Israel committed a trespass in the accursed thing: for Achan, the son of Carmi, the son of Zabdi, the son of Zerah, of the tribe of Judah, took of the accursed thing: and the anger of the LORD was kindled against the children of Israel.

[2] And Joshua sent men from Jericho to Ai, which is beside Beth-aven, on the east side of Bethel, and spake unto them, saying, Go up and view the country. And the men went up and viewed Ai.
[3] And they returned to Joshua, and said unto him, Let not all the people go up; but let about two or three thousand men go up and smite Ai; and make not all the people to labour thither; for they are but few.

[4] So there went up thither of the people about three thousand men: and they fled before the men of Ai.
[5] And the men of Ai smote of them about thirty and six men: for they chased them from before the gate even unto Shebarim, and smote them in the going down: wherefore the hearts of the people melted, and became as water.
....
[9] For the Canaanites and all the inhabitants of the land shall hear of it, and shall environ us round, and cut off our name from the earth: and what wilt thou do unto thy great name?
[10] And the LORD said unto Joshua, Get thee up; wherefore liest thou thus upon thy face?

[11] [Israel hath sinned,] and they have also transgressed my covenant which I commanded them: for they have even taken of the accursed thing, and have also stolen, and dissembled also, and they have put it even among their own stuff.
[12] Therefore the children of Israel could not stand before their enemies, but turned their backs before their enemies, because they were accursed:


[neither will I be with you any more, except ye destroy the accursed from among you.]

(and what is the problem today?? Filthy Christ/less Church's)

And these ones were not the ones of Rev. 17:1-5!
If one reads on, they will find several opportunities for Achan + his household who surely knew of this blantant open sin, to come forward in repentence. They knew what the final outcome required for unrepentant sin. As do these ones of professed Christianity today. Obad. 1:16

--Elijah

Elijah here again. Think! Made Partakers of the Holy Ghost! Born Again. And think LOVE! I Love you Lord is their claim.
OK: Now the UNIVERSE 'SEE' these ones with [[OPEN DOCUMENTED SIN + YEARS & YEARS OF 'TEACHING' FALSE DOCTRINES]]. Even note verse one with.. 'THE DOCTRINE OF CHRIST' John has it in 1 John 5:7 + 2 John 1:9.

Heb.6

[1] Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
[2] Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
[3] And this will we do, if God permit. (???)
[4] For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, andhave tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
[5] Andhave tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
[6] If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

OK: These all have Tasted of the Word of God, they had the ernest of the Holy Ghost (down payment) & were at one time Born Again. Surely they got to the Psalms 77:13 required altar of Sacrifice & offered their Sacrifice & God did indeed accepted it!! They feel great, I am SAVED! I am BORN AGAIN! I AM MADE A PARTAKER OF THE HOLY GHOST!!!

This is there teaching as they just trot on back home and go NO FURTHER on in 'REQUIRED' Maturing Sanctification, (Matt. 4:4) while claiming LORD, LORD.. WHAT MORE DO I NEED<-- I,I,I,I AM SAVED!

And what does the Universe [openly] see in their lives? [[OPEN SHAME]] to the one that they claim to love. Yet, they just keep on 'teaching for truth' this O.S.A.S. of- 2 Peter 2:19 and not leaving this abominal teaching as seen in Rev. 18:4, (+ much more!) they will end up as documented in Obad. 1:16.
Even note that these ones.. 'HAVE DRUNK ON MY HOLY MOUNTAIN' at one time! These ones are the hardest for God to reach! Rev. 3:16.