Communist Goals: Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35, Documented in January 10, 1963

[jasonc]

Pure unadulterated free market capitalism does not and has not ever existed. There’s always been ways to control the poor and working classes…poor houses and asylums for instance…

And also usually ways to reign in the upper classes a bit for the sake of overall stability. Charities I think are a good example of that.

If one looks at Christianity…the visible church not the invisible church…

One can see that religious institutions can work for the elites or sometimes focus more on the needs of the least of these or at least the everyday people.

The USA civil rights movement was largely rooted in churches ️. Today some churches have programs to lift the homeless out of housing insecurity. And then…

Some churches are focused on sort of emo experiences to take the edge off daily life in modern society. And some churches are also against welfare disability programs or anything remotely related to what they perceive as communism or socialism or even just progressive.

In today’s USA there is very little left of actual welfare. There’s disability programs that help many people who cannot work….

But actual welfare programs were deeply shredded by Clinton in the late nineties.

Food stamps are still available for some people but something like 1 in 6 people in America face food insecurity at any given time. The situation is considerably better in many…but not all…affluent developed nations. The uk is dealing with serious problems following decades of cuts to social programs…first thatcher later austerity measures after the 2008 recession.


Sorry if I’m rambling. The USA is very far from communism. Even china isn’t truly communist. Capitalism comes in many forms depending on how it’s regulated and what the goals of regulation are at the time.

In the 40s-70s the USA had far more extensive social programs safety net etc. perfect? No but it did lead to a huge rather prosperous middle class. Now…?

The middle class has been hit hard and the hits keep coming. Those below middle class have been hit hard and some of the wealthiest people have gotten even richer.

The pattern in the USA is somewhat extreme for a developed affluent nation but inequality poverty downward mobility and stratification are becoming international issues.

There was No Medicare until 1968 .
There was no welfare in the 40,50,and until Johnson great society the 60s

You did have poor ,low income housing areas.often on former military bases.these were hibiscus airpark in Vero , Melbourne it was tropical haven,fort Pierce is the road runner RV park .though that city had more then one ,another in Lincoln park .

 

[Milk-Drops]

There was No Medicare until 1968 .
There was no welfare in the 40,50,and until Johnson great society the 60s

You did have poor ,low income housing areas.often on former military bases.these were hibiscus airpark in Vero , Melbourne it was tropical haven,fort Pierce is the road runner RV park .though that city had more then one ,another in Lincoln park .

Yes, a lot of the social programs were in response to prevent a socialist/communist revolution.

 

[jasonc]

Yes, a lot of the social programs were in response to prevent a socialist/communist revolution.

Fdr argued that social security is a tax and so it is .

Meaning if you drop dead right now ,your next of kin gets 256 bucks .there is no,nor was there ever any savings in your name .

When my grandpa died ,a Democrat ,my grandmother was mad about that fact ,also a Democrat and both old enough to be an adult in the depression. Grandpa was born in 1913 ,she was born in 1920 . They married in the late 30s irc .

All she got was his money for burial as her ss check was more then his . My wife probably are be dead when I will be aged 70. So I have accounted for that as she won't have live insurance at 81 that covers more then a funeral .upon my death she will not have that problem .savings and my pensions are automatically hers at a lower pay rate .

The SCOTUS ruled no American has a right social security.

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Gannet news ,hardly liberal .that negates any notion of to prevent communism

The idea of that cane from known socialists who pushed for right to housing ,wages and retirement. A govt stipend .

As was very much a similar concept . I would have to dig up that group.its been a few years but a history dig of a protest during the depression mentioned a commune like group all over pushing fdr to do that .

Safety nets aside I can assure you plenty of homeless elderly in my area ,get that and they are homeless and have no place to rent .can't afford it.

Public housing projects and nimby etc I'm sure plats a role .

 

[Dave...]

Hey Milk

I cannot separate the economic from the moral. To me, the moral collapse is the means that communist use to take power. The economic part comes later. That's why they inject sin into this country. If you understand our freedom, then you would understand why they do it this way. Most people could not define American freedom beyond the phrase "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness". But it's more than that.

I'll try to write this with what little time I have. Lord willing, it will be readable.

Follow me.

Nobody lives without a standard. Liberals (communism), who also have standards, present their beliefs as the norm. In other words, it's considered a neutral and a non standard, even though it is. That's basically what relativism is. It gets rid of every other standard, or code and replaces it with itself (see middle quote from my second post).

So, everybody lives by a code, or a standard. The U.S. was founded on the Bible. That's our standard. I know most people are brainwashed to think differently, but this is an undeniable fact. We cannot live by multiple standards, as some believe that's what the U.S. is about. True diversity has been redefined. The U.S. is a Christian nation and it's Laws are based on the Bible. Understand that our laws are not including ceremonial Laws and all the liberal arguments about what they do not like about the Law. It's just a basic standard. We don't kill (murder), we don't steal, etc.

Still with me? Here's the easy part. Most people think that keeping the government small protects our freedoms. That a correct statement, but the context they use is usually wrong. They think that beyond the written Laws, that it's a free for all. This is wrong. The standard, God's word, never goes away. American freedom is the privilege to govern ourselves individually by the same standard, God's Word. When we are incapable of governing ourselves, our government, by design, will step up and govern us for us. That's our freedom. that's the design of our freedom. Remember, Grace vs. the Law.

When sin is injected into our society, the who thing collapses because government is constantly growing. This allows a power vacuum for the communists to cease control of our Government. Add to that the Marxist brainwashing. You can see why the moral part of that list is the most important. I wish that I could get into more detail. Just think about it. Read the old quotes from former politicians. Why do we reform prisoners? It all comes from that idea.

I gotta go.

 

[Dave...]

The important thing to remember is that they promote lawlessness. Usually through victimhood. Lawlessness means bigger government. That's less freedom for us. That's what they want.

Did you know that many black members of BLM, supported by todays liberal party, sport tattoos of Hitler? What they are doing is pure fascism. Yet they are liberals who support the communist goals through the Democrat party.

Outside of the economics side of it, it's all a weapon for the communists, Marxist, fascist. It all overlaps. Promote sin or any lawlessness. Destroy from within. That's what they do.

 

[Milk-Drops]

Hey Milk

I cannot separate the economic from the moral. To me, the moral collapse is the means that communist use to take power. The economic part comes later. That's why they inject sin into this country. If you understand our freedom, then you would understand why they do it this way. Most people could not define American freedom beyond the phrase "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness". But it's more than that.

I'll try to write this with what little time I have. Lord willing, it will be readable.

Follow me.

Nobody lives without a standard. Liberals (communism), who also have standards, present their beliefs as the norm. In other words, it's considered a neutral and a non standard, even though it is. That's basically what relativism is. It gets rid of every other standard, or code and replaces it with itself (see middle quote from my second post).

So, everybody lives by a code, or a standard. The U.S. was founded on the Bible. That's our standard. I know most people are brainwashed to think differently, but this is an undeniable fact. We cannot live by multiple standards, as some believe that's what the U.S. is about. True diversity has been redefined. The U.S. is a Christian nation and it's Laws are based on the Bible. Understand that our laws are not including ceremonial Laws and all the liberal arguments about what they do not like about the Law. It's just a basic standard. We don't kill (murder), we don't steal, etc.

Still with me? Here's the easy part. Most people think that keeping the government small protects our freedoms. That a correct statement, but the context they use is usually wrong. They think that beyond the written Laws, that it's a free for all. This is wrong. The standard, God's word, never goes away. American freedom is the privilege to govern ourselves individually by the same standard, God's Word. When we are incapable of governing ourselves, our government, by design, will step up and govern us for us. That's our freedom. that's the design of our freedom. Remember, Grace vs. the Law.

When sin is injected into our society, the who thing collapses because government is constantly growing. This allows a power vacuum for the communists to cease control of our Government. Add to that the Marxist brainwashing. You can see why the moral part of that list is the most important. I wish that I could get into more detail. Just think about it. Read the old quotes from former politicians. Why do we reform prisoners? It all comes from that idea.

I gotta go.

I followed you and it's just nonsense. I have actually read communist books. I know the theory. How the USSR and China function makes sense when you understsnd their theoretical basis. What you are saying only makes sense if I just imagine communist as boogeyman and ignore political theory. It's just fear mongering.

You have not established that we even have communists in any form of power and d9nt even understand that communists hate liberals.

 

[Milk-Drops]

The important thing to remember is that they promote lawlessness. Usually through victimhood. Lawlessness means bigger government. That's less freedom for us. That's what they want.

That makes absolutely no sense.

Did you know that many black members of BLM, supported by todays liberal party, sport tattoos of Hitler?

Are you serious?

What they are doing is pure fascism.

Authoritarian hyper nationalism? That's what fascism is.

Yet they are liberals who support the communist goals through the Democrat party.

That is just word salad. Saying black lives are equal to white lives is communist?

Outside of the economics side of it, it's all a weapon for the communists, Marxist, fascist. It all overlaps. Promote sin or any lawlessness. Destroy from within. That's what they do.

The word "they" is doing a lot of work. You are just say thing is bad, communism is bad so the communists do the bad thing.

You are inventing shadows to jump at.

 

[Dave...]

I followed you and it's just nonsense. I have actually read communist books. I know the theory. How the USSR and China function makes sense when you understsnd their theoretical basis. What you are saying only makes sense if I just imagine communist as boogeyman and ignore political theory. It's just fear mongering.

You have not established that we even have communists in any form of power and d9nt even understand that communists hate liberals.

Milk, If you are unwilling to look beyond the economic side, then you will never understand how communists come into power. People who come here from communist countries make it a point to let Americans know that what is happening here has already happened in the exact same way in their communist countries. They know communists better than your books because they lived it. The Parallels are their. Hitler would be quite comfortable being a liberal Democrat in the U.S. today. They have similar beliefs. It's all a Frankenstein of 'isms'.

Communists have been here a long time. Everything McCarthy said has been proven to be true. If you want to see these communists, the easiest place to find them, besides our government, is to look for organized crime. The two are always in bed together. You see, organized crime only cares about making money. Communist have a bigger and smarter objective. They allow the mob to make money along side of them, in lets say, the movie industry, or in unions, all of which are major transition belts for advancing the cause. But by allowing the mob to make money in these places, this then indirectly provides protection for the communists by the mob. Like I said, smart use people who don't know or don't care. Where there is one, the other is right there. Remember the Kennedy assassination?....

Our government is infected, if not almost completely taken over. The Democrat party is for sure. They are working on the republican side of things to take that over too. Remember, John McCain and the young hopefuls all said the we needed to move to the left to win the election. Trump was elected as a rebuke to those Republican RINOs.

The media is owned by the same. They all use the same code words at the same time. Which is pointed out daily. The problem, is that the sin that people are being drenched in, enslaves them so it's like a crack head defending his dealer. Likewise, liberals defend their master.

I'll get to your other post tomorrow.

Dave

 

[Milk-Drops]

Milk, If you are unwilling to look beyond the economic side, then you will never understand how communists come into power.

The history of the USSR, China, and Vietnam are very well known.

in all three of these examples the main Soviet party in each nation organized workers into a resistance movement against empire rule. Pretty much every single communist nation came about from overthrowing an authoritarian government from a combined peasant revolt and an organized Marxist party.

No western nation have ever gone communist because the means don't exist. Every example is an extremely impoverished country.

The entire goal list makes no sense when compared to any communist that came to be. With the Except of THe USSR and Cuba, most were not even Christian.

I have read up on the histories of the USSR and China and there are actual problems with how communism function that we can talk about.

Mainly because Lenin wanted to prevent counter revolutions, so consolidation of the party politics was handed over to a very small centralized group. This was why Stalin was able to become a dictator and Why both Soviet Russia and Maoist china suffered under so many famines and slow response to issues within the nation.

The consolidation of power was the major issue. China started to improve when during the Nixon era it opened up and relaxed its rules on both party demands and economic centralization. The religious control was also relaxed in both the USSR near the end and China in the 70s.

Telling me to look beyond the ecconomics is insane considering that is the entire reason the US went through a cold war with the USSR was over ecconomic control and dominance.

People who come here from communist countries make it a point to let Americans know that what is happening here has already happened in the exact same way in their communist countries.

Which is very interesting because the stories tend to be copy pastes of each other and make no sense considering that most of the goals you listed don't exist in the communist countries that have existed. You are aware that the USSR and modern China are not tolerant of homosexuality right? There is and was tremendous racism and antisemitism. China escpecially has massive restriction on students and all communist countries limit criticism of the government.


That is why I keep bringing up that this list comes from a member of the John Birch Society. The JBS is an extremest group with far right beliefs that centered around far right social conservatism. Essentially everything that disagrees with them is communism. Most of the list deals with issues that the society opposed in the 50s and 60s. The list is vague on purpose so anything could be pointed out as evidence. The list doesn't even define what a communists is but you better believe they are everywhere. Its basic manipulation tactics. Create a vague enemy, claim anything you don't like is the enemy's fault, and scare people into thinking they are in real danger. Then you can milk your audience into doing what ever you want.

They know communists better than your books because they lived it. The Parallels are their. Hitler would be quite comfortable being a liberal Democrat in the U.S. today. They have similar beliefs. It's all a Frankenstein of 'isms'.

IF you seriously believe that and are not trolling, then you don't understand what hitler's ideology was. Considering the democrats are the one getting blamed for being "woke". You are aware that Hitler was going after the Woke Wiemar Republic because the Nazi's beleived it to be a progressive and morally horrendous society that was too weak against foreign threats and needed a strong man to morally return Germany to its glory days right?

Communists have been here a long time. Everything McCarthy said has been proven to be true. If you want to see these communists, the easiest place to find them, besides our government, is to look for organized crime. The two are always in bed together. You see, organized crime only cares about making money. Communist have a bigger and smarter objective. They allow the mob to make money along side of them, in lets say, the movie industry, or in unions, all of which are major transition belts for advancing the cause. But by allowing the mob to make money in these places, this then indirectly provides protection for the communists by the mob. Like I said, smart use people who don't know or don't care. Where there is one, the other is right there. Remember the Kennedy assassination?....

You just made up a story. You keep demonstrating you don't understand what you are talking about. I think I can literally just boil down your definition of communist to boogey man.

Our government is infected, if not almost completely taken over. The Democrat party is for sure. They are working on the republican side of things to take that over too. Remember, John McCain and the young hopefuls all said the we needed to move to the left to win the election. Trump was elected as a rebuke to those Republican RINOs.

Then define what a communist actually is.

The media is owned by the same.

Evidence please.

They all use the same code words at the same time.

Evidence please.

Which is pointed out daily. The problem, is that the sin that people are being drenched in, enslaves them so it's like a crack head defending his dealer. Likewise, liberals defend their master.

I'll get to your other post tomorrow.

Dave

I don't see a point since you are just talking about made up people. You need to demonstrate who the communists are. Otherwise you can literally say anyone is a communist without ever having to define what you mean.

You just want me to except what you are saying, and I'm not going to do that unless you can demonstrate you actually know what you are talking about.

 

[Dave...]

That makes absolutely no sense.

Are you serious?

Yes, I'm serious. Promoting lawlessness makes perfect sense when we consider that it results in more laws, and more and bigger government, which is one of the main vehicles used by communists to gain control of our government.

BLM members have tattoos of Hitler's face, his name and mostly swastika's. It all means the same thing. Also consider that they openly admitted that they were Marxist on their web sight. They have since taken that statement down when they got negative blowback. They also promote the trans gender movement. What dose one have to do with the other? Nothing. But it makes perfect sense when you look at who is funding them. That would be the "they" that you claim doesn't exist. You may also want to ask who is suppling them with guns. That's a self admitted Marxist organization, wearing tattoos of fascism, and taking money from communists to advance the communist cause, in other words, your boogie man.

 

[Dave...]

Telling me to look beyond the ecconomics is insane considering that is the entire reason the US went through a cold war with the USSR was over ecconomic control and dominance.

Think about what you said here. I'm not saying to ignore the economics, but I'm asking you to look outside of your college professors head and consider that there is a bigger picture than the economics. You seemed to want to steer this discussion into an economic discussion because that's what you know and are comfortable with. I'm asking you to look outside the economic box and consider the bigger picture. The economics are really not the issue, although "they" never use their own money to propagandize us. Just like liberals, right? Just a strange coincidence.

Which is very interesting because the stories tend to be copy pastes of each other and make no sense considering that most of the goals you listed don't exist in the communist countries that have existed. You are aware that the USSR and modern China are not tolerant of homosexuality right?

Yes, and China's allows things on the U.S. tic Toc that it doesn't allow in China. But China is not trying to destroy China, only the U.S. Did you know that it was China who was supplying the guns to BLM? Did you know that China funds much of what is happening in Hollywood? Google both those questions. That's just the start.

That is why I keep bringing up that this list comes from a member of the John Birch Society. The JBS is an extremest group with far right beliefs that centered around far right social conservatism. Essentially everything that disagrees with them is communism. Most of the list deals with issues that the society opposed in the 50s and 60s. The list is vague on purpose so anything could be pointed out as evidence. The list doesn't even define what a communists is but you better believe they are everywhere. Its basic manipulation tactics. Create a vague enemy, claim anything you don't like is the enemy's fault, and scare people into thinking they are in real danger. Then you can milk your audience into doing what ever you want.

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but most people in this country still appose those things and consider homosexuality to be a mental illness. But cannot say so openly because they then lose their jobs, their ability to work in any meaningful job, basically, they become social outcasts (that's fascism). That's the social aspect of our society being run by the few, the "ism" Frankenstein I call communist.

Here's a real boogieman for you. Supported by liberal democrats. Margaret Sanger. I wonder where did her ideas came from?

Considering the democrats are the one getting blamed for being "woke".

What part of the "woke" movement do the Democrats not support? Make a list for me.

The "ism" Frankenstein uses it all, communism, Marxism, and fascism. It not a perfect replica of what you read about in books. You're looking in the past, but this evil has evolved. The economics are really and end game. I'm speaking of the way that they use to get there.

You just made up a story. You keep demonstrating you don't understand what you are talking about. I think I can literally just boil down your definition of communist to boogey man.

It's their definition, not mine.

Then define what a communist actually is.

I define them by their actions, by their testimony, and books outlining their goals.

Evidence please.

Evidence please.

This is fifty year old news. Back in the eighties Rush Limbaugh would play these clips daily. Yes, the many different actual liberal news people using the same code words and phrases all at once on the same day. More recently, Hannity used to do this also. The latest code word (phrase) is 'Christian nationalists'. Everyone but you knows these facts about the liberal media.

I don't see a point since you are just talking about made up people. You need to demonstrate who the communists are. Otherwise you can literally say anyone is a communist without ever having to define what you mean.

You just want me to except what you are saying, and I'm not going to do that unless you can demonstrate you actually know what you are talking about.

I already have, but you refuse to see it.

Milk, the chains of todays slavery are not around people wrists, or ankles, or even their necks. No the chains are around their minds. Modern day slaves are called "useful idiots". Their term, not mine. Marxist, heck, Camella Harris's family, slave owners, did not stop, they just use a different means. They use victimhood mainly.

Example: They decorate it with phrases like "woman's rights". Then they give an avalanche of movies that constantly show women as victims. Then they change the laws to give woman the power to destroy any man at any time. Please don't waist my time and tell me this isn't happening. Men are leaving the U.S. in droves to go to Asia and find more traditional wives because American woman view marriage as slavery. For the most part, the consensus is that American woman have drank the feminist Kool-Aid to the point of no return. They are not considered marriage material anymore. And who helped them? Just vote for the one who cares, the Democrats. This is what Marxists do. This is how they start unions, etc. The constant barrage of victim hood. Racism where there isn't any. This is the media painting these pictures. I'm sure that you're aware of this this. Then they paint themselves as the saviors. The ones that care. They get votes, rinse and repeat. That's Marxism.

The chance that a man has to loose everything through divorce in this country is about 75 %. This risk is too high. Add to that a woman, until just recently, could make a man pay child support for a child that wasn't even his, she knew it wasn't, and was later proven that it wasn't by DNA (the Law was just recently changed). I've seen men do hard time for not paying child support for a kid that she knew wasn't his, and admitted it in court after the DNA test proved it. What happened to her? Nothing. A woman can accuse a man of rape, and after he did ten years in prison, the day he gets out, she can walk up to the judge and tell him she made the whole thing up, and nothing will happen to her. This is one little peek into how American women and family are destroyed in America,. you see the results, right?

Do you not see the deliberate effort to drench our children in sex? Do you not understand how this negatively affect them? It destroys them. It stunts their emotional growth and creates all kinds of problems.

We can go on and on all day long. This story is everywhere, but for some strange reason, you can't see it. Maybe Jesus can help. He's not a hippie, you know?

 

[Milk-Drops]

Yes, I'm serious. Promoting lawlessness makes perfect sense when we consider that it results in more laws, and more and bigger government, which is one of the main vehicles used by communists to gain control of our government.

Let's step back a minute. Let's establish the threat is even real. How do communists initially infiltrate the parties, arts, etc?
What evidence ( as in named known communists) is there of that?

BLM members have tattoos of Hitler's face, his name and mostly swastika's.

who iisthis person?

It all means the same thing. Also consider that they openly admitted that they were Marxist on their web sight.

You are mixx8ng to blm the slogan with blm the organization. Also, since I know what Marxism is, you need to establish how treating black lives the same as white lives is communists.

They have since taken that statement down when they got negative blowback.

Convenient, so we can not verify it.

They also promote the trans gender movement.

You mean they don't discriminate against trans people. Why are trans people automatically communist?

What dose one have to do with the other? Nothing. But it makes perfect sense when you look at who is funding them.

Let me guess, the jews.

That would be the "they" that you claim doesn't exist.

I noticed you still side stepped telling me who "they" are.

You may also want to ask who is suppling them with guns. That's a self admitted Marxist organization, wearing tattoos of fascism, and taking money from communists to advance the communist cause, in other words, your boogie man.

You have not established any of this.

 

[Milk-Drops]

Think about what you said here. I'm not saying to ignore the economics, but I'm asking you to look outside of your college professors head and consider that there is a bigger picture than the economics.

assume a lot about me. I didnt get this from a college professor, i learned by reading the books by the very leaders and reading history texts. You are not establishing that the communists have taken over. So far your evidence is "things changed".

You seemed to want to steer this discussion into an economic discussion because that's what you know and are comfortable with.

Maybe ots because Communism is an ecconomic model. How does the cival rights movement lead to a centralized ecconomy?

I'm asking you to look outside the economic box and consider the bigger picture. The economics are really not the issue, although "they" never use their own money to propagandize us. Just like liberals, right? Just a strange coincidence.

Then you are literally not talking about communism.

Yes, and China's allows things on the U.S. tic Toc that it doesn't allow in China. But China is not trying to destroy China, only the U.S. Did you know that it was China who was supplying the guns to BLM? Did you know that China funds much of what is happening in Hollywood? Google both those questions. That's just the start.

How about you provide the sources where you got this from.

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but most people in this country still appose those things and consider homosexuality to be a mental illness. But cannot say so openly because they then lose their jobs, their ability to work in any meaningful job, basically, they become social outcasts (that's fascism). That's the social aspect of our society being run by the few, the "ism" Frankenstein I call communist.

So you believe everyone secretly agrees with you and you just admitted you have no idea what you are talking about.

Here's a real boogieman for you. Supported by liberal democrats. Margaret Sanger. I wonder where did her ideas came from?

You know she predated Hitler right?

What part of the "woke" movement do the Democrats not support? Make a list for me.

The whole thing because woke is just the latest amorphous term used by right wing grifters.

The "ism" Frankenstein uses it all, communism, Marxism, and fascism. It not a perfect replica of what you read about in books. You're looking in the past, but this evil has evolved. The economics are really and end game. I'm speaking of the way that they use to gdrifters.

Who wrote this ism then?

It's their definition, not mine.


I define them by their actions, by their testimony, and books outlining their goals.


This is fifty year old news. Back in the eighties Rush Limbaugh would play these clips daily. Yes, the many different actual liberal news people using the same code words and phrases all at once on the same day. More recently, Hannity used to do this also. The latest code word (phrase) is 'Christian nationalists'. Everyone but you knows these facts about the liberal media.


I already have, but you refuse to see it.

Milk, the chains of todays slavery are not around people wrists, or ankles, or even their necks. No the chains are around their minds. Modern day slaves are called "useful idiots". Their term, not mine. Marxist, heck, Camella Harris's family, slave owners, did not stop, they just use a different means. They use victimhood mainly.

Example: They decorate it with phrases like "woman's rights". Then they give an avalanche of movies that constantly show women as victims. Then they change the laws to give woman the power to destroy any man at any time. Please don't waist my time and tell me this isn't happening. Men are leaving the U.S. in droves to go to Asia and find more traditional wives because American woman view marriage as slavery. For the most part, the consensus is that American woman have drank the feminist Kool-Aid to the point of no return. They are not considered marriage material anymore. And who helped them? Just vote for the one who cares, the Democrats. This is what Marxists do. This is how they start unions, etc. The constant barrage of victim hood. Racism where there isn't any. This is the media painting these pictures. I'm sure that you're aware of this this. Then they paint themselves as the saviors. The ones that care. They get votes, rinse and repeat. That's Marxism.

The chance that a man has to loose everything through divorce in this country is about 75 %. This risk is too high. Add to that a woman, until just recently, could make a man pay child support for a child that wasn't even his, she knew it wasn't, and was later proven that it wasn't by DNA (the Law was just recently changed). I've seen men do hard time for not paying child support for a kid that she knew wasn't his, and admitted it in court after the DNA test proved it. What happened to her? Nothing. A woman can accuse a man of rape, and after he did ten years in prison, the day he gets out, she can walk up to the judge and tell him she made the whole thing up, and nothing will happen to her. This is one little peek into how American women and family are destroyed in America,. you see the results, right?

Do you not see the deliberate effort to drench our children in sex? Do you not understand how this negatively affect them? It destroys them. It stunts their emotional growth and creates all kinds of problems.

We can go on and on all day long. This story is everywhere, but for some strange reason, you can't see it. Maybe Jesus can help. He's not a hippie, you know?

I'm done, you are literally just spitting nonsense.

 

[Dave...]

Milk, The fact that all the goals recorded in 1963 have since happened should be proof enough to at least pique your interest.

Do you agree that sin enslaves and destroys, as all Christians should? Because "they" are injecting it into our society, not because they love and care, but because they want to destroy us. Do you think that it's a coincidence that everything on tv these days has homosexuality and incest in it? That's by design. You would be hard pressed to get anything produced by the powers that be unless you bow down to those powers and their requests. That's not a coincidence. The useful idiots believe that they love and care, but all cons depend on one thing, the willingness of the other to want to believe it. Our enemy understand these things perfectly.

Do you know how to define American freedom? You should, I already did it for you. "They" do and have redefined it for a reason. You can't defend something if you don't know what it is. Most Americans don't know how to define what it is that they cherish so much, our freedom.

Do you know what Cultural Marxism is, otherwise known as political correctness? Start here.

There is a woman by the name of Tammy Bruce. She works for Fox now, or did, but at one time he was a rising star in the liberal Democrat political circles. A self professed lesbian. Anyways, she had a few conservative views, and was attacked and destroyed because of them. You see, she believed that "they" cared and that she was a shu-in because she was a lesbian. Just like black people believe the same because of the color of their skin. But step outside of the ideology and they will destroy you. It's all about the ideology.

She knows first hand what they do and their methods. She actually wrote books on this back in the late eighties or early nineties that you can find in any library.

Start with "The New Thought Police". Then "The Death Of Right and Wrong". "The New American Revolution"

She was there. She was one of them. This is right from the belly of the beast. This was my introduction to cultural Marxism and the war that we are in today. And of course, it all spiritual warfare at it's core. People seen it but didn't actually know what it was. Tammy pulled back the curtains.

 

[Milk-Drops]

Milk, The fact that all the goals recorded in 1963 have since happened should be proof enough to at least pique your interest.

That is the problem. Most of the goals have only come true if you just assume it's communist infiltration. We don't have any evidence that communist have taken over the political parties, education, the work force, Hollywood. Etc.

It makes way more sense when you realize the John Birch society just calls anything that happens that they don't like communism.

Do you agree that sin enslaves and destroys,

In Christianity yes.

as all Christians should? Because "they" are injecting it into our society, not because they love and care, but because they want to destroy us.

You have not shown us that "they" exist. You can substitute communist with Femon and it's the same argument.

Do you think that it's a coincidence that everything on tv these days has homosexuality and incest in it?

Everything doesn't have homosexuality and incest in it. Marketing firms cast a net to get people who are lgbt to buy their products. Incest is still despised socially.

That's by design. You would be hard pressed to get anything produced by the powers that be unless you bow down to those powers and their requests. That's not a coincidence. The useful idiots believe that they love and care, but all cons depend on one thing, the willingness of the other to want to believe it. Our enemy understand these things perfectly.

I have no idea what you are talking about because I know of several industries like country music and Christian films that still make tons of money and niether is friendly to lgbt people.

Do you know how to define American freedom? You should, I already did it for you. "They" do and have redefined it for a reason. You can't defend something if you don't know what it is. Most Americans don't know how to define what it is that they cherish so much, our freedom.

Yes I do know what American freedom is. We have it laid out in our constitution.

Do you know what Cultural Marxism is, otherwise known as political correctness? Start here.

Yes I am very familiar with these buzzwords. It's called woke now. It literally is just people complaining that younger people are less antagonistic to lgbt, people of color, and women.

There is a woman by the name of Tammy Bruce. She works for Fox now, or did, but at one time he was a rising star in the liberal Democrat political circles. A self professed lesbian. Anyways, she had a few conservative views, and was attacked and destroyed because of them. You see, she believed that "they" cared and that she was a shu-in because she was a lesbian. Just like black people believe the same because of the color of their skin. But step outside of the ideology and they will destroy you. It's all about the ideology.

You mean an ideology that you can't define and seems to just be an amalgam of things you don't like?

She knows first hand what they do and their methods. She actually wrote books on this back in the late eighties or early nineties that you can find in any library.

Start with "The New Thought Police". Then "The Death Of Right and Wrong". "The New American Revolution"

She was there. She was one of them. This is right from the belly of the beast. This was my introduction to cultural Marxism and the war that we are in today. And of course, it all spiritual warfare at it's core. People seen it but didn't actually know what it was. Tammy pulled back the curtains.

You are aware that what she is refering to is in group out group dynamics right? It's a problem with all major groups. If you don't fully mesh you are cast out.

What you are describing is that she tried to rise in a single company and she mistyped and sought a new group.


I care more about principles than who you lable yourself as.

 

[Dave...]

Milk, I don't know what to tell you. You have a way of just brushing things off on a whim without seriously addressing them. I know it's a lot to go over but that's because there is a lot happening. I think that you're suppressing what is staring you right in the face. You come up with some label to slap on it to demean it and toss it to the side. All the while accusing me of coming up with crazy labels. You still want to believe that "they" love and care. But they don't.

I'll trust that the readers can see that for themselves and leave it at that.

Peace dude.