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Cooking In The End Times...

3 stone fire.

Rocket stove.

eddif
 
3 stone fire.

Rocket stove.

eddif

Oh I have a rocket stove too. I forgot about it sitting out there, lol.
 
That other thread made me think some about what is good to eat or not. That issue aside a good point was raised about processed food.
Processed food:
Corn without being treated with lime gives pellagra . B3 is in corn but bound from being absorbed by the body. Wood ashes or lime treated corn will allow absorption. Read about how long it took to find the problem.

White rice stripped of its outer coat gives beriberi. Barley eaten with white rice basically stops the disease by adding B1. Again took years to find problem.

No vitamin C gives scurvy.

Rickets is caused by lack of vitamin D.

Nervous system problems is caused by lack of B12

Processing food sometimes destroys nutrients.

What is this really all about? The over processing of scripture sometimes destroys needed spiritual health ingredients. We clean up scripture till it has a high glycemic index, we get an instant sugar high from this highly processed white religious flour. No whole course grain/word.

There are sub-clinical and clinical reactions to certain processed foods. It can be extremely hard to talk about non clinical symptoms.

Mississippi redneck
eddif
 
Negative.
I'm afraid they'd blow up in my face.

It's all done with weight. You use a scale and tare thr bottle weight to zero and then fill the cylinder to 16 ounces.

Cylinders always have a safety margin built in. It will hold more than a pound and not burst the cylinder. Have you ever heard of a coleman camp cylinder exploding before? Me neither, just refill it outside and make the cigarette smokers stand at least 50 feet away for safety.

It's not dangerous. They say it is for two reasons. They want you pay them 5 bucks apiece for them and...there really are morons in the world which would hurt themselves somehow.
 

Tip:
Turn the big LP gas tank upside down to fill the smaller cylinder with liqued LP. It'll be about 10 hours faster that way!

LP gas boils at -40 below zero so if it was -50 degrees then you could open the valve to the tank and pour the LP gas out like a liqued into a bucket. There would be zero pressure. When the temp rose to -35 lets say, the LP in the bucket would be at a full rolling boil and expanding into the atmosphere.

What does that tell us? It tells us to store the LP gas in a cool dark place out of the sunshine. If LP boils at -40 then with a 65 degree air temperature in your house it is going to raise the pressure in the cylinder. The hotter it gets the more pressure it is under. And common LP gas cylinders are typically left outside in the sunshine on the grill in the sun. It might get 100 degrees! It wont burst, they take into account in the construction of the cylinder. BUT! The hotter it is out, the higher the pressure so that means you check it for leaks more often.

Out in Colorado it used to pert darn cold sometimes. And at those times the grill usually worked good but I had instances of the grill acting up at bery low temperatures. It was cold, the tank was low so the pressure was almost nil. SO I would gently wave a lit torch over the outside surface of the LP tank to warm up the LP and it would heat the gas and raise the pressure and the grill worked good again.

LP is a backup anyway. You wont be able to go buy LP when the grid goes down! So you prepare for cooking with wood fires and we'll only use the LP gas if it's too cold to go scrounge firewood! DO you have a charcoal grill? Works with sticks!
 
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I suppose we should mention food cooking temperature.
The only thing I know is the lower the temperature:
The less damage is done to nutrients.
If the food contains nitrites high temperature converts it to nitrates (bad).

To cook an egg in a skillet keep the temp low enough it takes about 20 seconds for the white to start getting translucent. The oil temperature is kept low. The egg temperature is kept low. Kind of like poaching the egg, rather than frying the egg. Source (my redneck brain). Joel Wallach says no fried food. I see heating water that is thrown out as a waste of time. Low skillet temp is quicker and can be just as healthy IMHO. Of course your heat source may not allow this process. It is more an art rather than a process.

Searing things gets the oil too hot.

Sounds like no fun at all.

eddif
 
Kind of like poaching the egg, rather than frying the egg. Source (my redneck brain)

Not your redneck kitchen? :hysterical

It is a good practice to read up on different types of oil and what temperature range should not be exceeded for cooking. Overheating oil does, bad things to the oil.

So keep the oil a high temp oil and the fire a lower fire is the best practice. I did read all that stuff before but I forget all the temp range values by now, lol. I think it said that Olive oil is the best and withstands the highest temps (but that from a failing memory) and that would make sense actually because God gave the Heberews olive oil and they used that a lot. They pretty much slosh olive oil over most of what they eat there!

But for us in America, we really have little reason to believe that we can even buy real olive oil in todays world. So what then? High oil low fire, lol.
 
There was a certain type of open fire that someone in Colorado taught me to make, it actually has a name for this type of fire but I can't remember it...

What you do is to dig a hole in the ground. Deep hole, a foot deep or so and about 4" diameter. Dig a ramp about 2" wide from ground level to the bottom of the hole (for air). Fill it with sticks and light it, lay a grill on the ground over it. It is a small fire with concentrated heat and burns almost smokeless (we don't want the Indians to see the smoke and know where we are!)

These small fires work great! I wish I could remember what he called this fire?
 
I just remembered. I did buy an adapter hose so I can use my grille's propane tank with my Coleman stove, Lol!

Having a regulator is very important for LP gas! So important that I even have an extra spare regulator. (They're only about 5 or 7 dollars.)

If your LP stove looks like it is burning odd and over-fired, the reg prolly went bad. Doesn't happen often, but it can inturupt mama's cooking dinner and bring her to a halt! Have a spare.
 
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Tip:
Turn the big LP gas tank upside down to fill the smaller cylinder with liqued LP. It'll be about 10 hours faster that way!

LP gas boils at -40 below zero so if it was -50 degrees then you could open the valve to the tank and pour the LP gas out like a liqued into a bucket. There would be zero pressure. When the temp rose to -35 lets say, the LP in the bucket would be at a full rolling boil and expanding into the atmosphere.

What does that tell us? It tells us to store the LP gas in a cool dark place out of the sunshine. If LP boils at -40 then with a 65 degree air temperature in your house it is going to raise the pressure in the cylinder. The hotter it gets the more pressure it is under. And common LP gas cylinders are typically left outside in the sunshine on the grill in the sun. It might get 100 degrees! It wont burst, they take into account in the construction of the cylinder. BUT! The hotter it is out, the higher the pressure so that means you check it for leaks more often.

Out in Colorado it used to pert darn cold sometimes. And at those times the grill usually worked good but I had instances of the grill acting up at bery low temperatures. It was cold, the tank was low so the pressure was almost nil. SO I would gently wave a lit torch over the outside surface of the LP tank to warm up the LP and it would heat the gas and raise the pressure and the grill worked good again.

LP is a backup anyway. You wont be able to go buy LP when the grid goes down! So you prepare for cooking with wood fires and we'll only use the LP gas if it's too cold to go scrounge firewood! DO you have a charcoal grill? Works with sticks!
Trash in a propane tank (if it has any) goes into the line when turned upside down. Refrigerant containers have an intake point that avoids trash (rust, hose trash when filling your source tank). I know I am a killjoy.

Mississippi redneck
eddif
Not your redneck kitchen? :hysterical

It is a good practice to read up on different types of oil and what temperature range should not be exceeded for cooking. Overheating oil does, bad things to the oil.

So keep the oil a high temp oil and the fire a lower fire is the best practice. I did read all that stuff before but I forget all the temp range values by now, lol. I think it said that Olive oil is the best and withstands the highest temps (but that from a failing memory) and that would make sense actually because God gave the Heberews olive oil and they used that a lot. They pretty much slosh olive oil over most of what they eat there!

But for us in America, we really have little reason to believe that we can even buy real olive oil in todays world. So what then? High oil low fire, lol.
High temp oil gets the food too hot. My dorky way is for oil and food temperature.

The olive oil:
Olive juice is what we need. Not highly processed olive oil. I admit that virgin olive oil is not highly processed, but it is processed more than olive juice. The juice (which I have never had) has fiber and more nutrients). People in olive areas think we are crazy, but do not explain the whole story. Got to keep selling that oil.

The olive juice probably has a limited shelf life, unless pasteurized (which would destroy nutrients).

There is very little way to beat/defeat the food industry.

eddif
 
There is very little way to beat/defeat the food industry.

But, but...isn't that what the Blessing and Thanks for? Most times when I give thanks I ask, Lord bless my food that it be clean and nutricious as you intended...Amen.

I can not say if it actually helps or not. I have no proof.
All I can say is that I never got any weird sickness related to food. Never had food poisoning. It may help and it can't hurt.
 
But, but...isn't that what the Blessing and Thanks for? Most times when I give thanks I ask, Lord bless my food that it be clean and nutricious as you intended...Amen.

I can not say if it actually helps or not. I have no proof.
All I can say is that I never got any weird sickness related to food. Never had food poisoning. It may help and it can't hurt.
Mark 7:19 kjv
19. Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?

Read surrounding verses. I do not claim to understand it all.

eddif
 
Pink ham. Do we want to discuss this, or continue to live in denial?

Process that is not natural. Pork chops are not pink.

Mississippi redneck
eddif
 
That other thread made me think some about what is good to eat or not. That issue aside a good point was raised about processed food.

When the economy collapses and the mark of the beast is being issued, you can say goodbye to your favorite frozen pizzas! Everyone will have to eat plain food again.

How about when the grid goes down? How will you cook dinner for yourself or family? Can you cook over an open fire? Don't try it. Cooking is done over coals. We always made a keyhole campfire when we went camping in the Rocky Mountains, the big part for the fire and the small part is to scrape coals into so you can cook!

All you really need is an assortment of camp cooking utensils and implements. I have a decent collection of cast iron cookery including a dutch oven, mainly for baking bread. I like bread. I havent actually successfully baked a loaf yet (Lol) but I hav been trying. y wife could bake perfect bread and made it look easy. The videos on youtube make it look easy too. I'll figure it out eventually.

So Members, what are your preperations for off grid cooking?

It is fun to cook on the trails, with all the no fires rules lately however I carry a little alcohol stove in my RZR. I also have a foldable grill that I sometimes use over an open fire if conditions seem good enough to have an open fire, that wood smoke always flavors the food much better no matter what you are cooking. Most of the time as I have gotten older and lazier, I just carry a can of corn or roast beef hash, and cook it in my cast iron skillet
 
It is fun to cook on the trails, with all the no fires rules lately however I carry a little alcohol stove in my RZR. I also have a foldable grill that I sometimes use over an open fire if conditions seem good enough to have an open fire, that wood smoke always flavors the food much better no matter what you are cooking. Most of the time as I have gotten older and lazier, I just carry a can of corn or roast beef hash, and cook it in my cast iron skillet
Should we go to solar cookers?

eddif
 
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