Could Satan repent and be forgiven?

[childeye]

First, if God had created satan with no truth in him then God would have created an evil creature,so satan had to have originally been good. The word ABODE(means to stand),so satan had to have originally ABODE in the truth. Read it this way, satan abode not in the truth(did not stay in truth). End of sentence,now. Because there is no truth in him when he speaks a lie from his own he speaks for a liar he is and the father of it,two different statements. First statement is that satan did not stay in truth, second statement is that satan is the father of the lie.
To say that satan did not stay(stand )in the truth because there is no truth in him, is like saying I did not remain dressed because I was always naked(in order not to remain dressed I first had to be dressed)...satan had to first abide in the truth before he could not abode in the truth,you cannot leave something you were never a part of.

This is conjecture. I've heard this argument before. Understand where vanity comes from before you make judgment. In other words it is conceivable that God made Satan knowing he would succumb to vanity and is making a show of it for the sake of testimony unto His Glory. Remember God gave man a stomach so that he would be thankful for his food. He forms the light and creates darkness.

 

[Sam21]

This is conjecture. I've heard this argument before. Understand where vanity comes from before you make judgment. In other words it is conceivable that God made Satan knowing he would succumb to vanity and is making a show of it for the sake of testimony unto His Glory. Remember God gave man a stomach so that he would be thankful for his food. He forms the light and creates darkness.

Two things,first,there is no conjecture, satan ABODE NOT in the truth, the word abode there means to stand or even continue,if you STAND NOT or CONTINUE NOT then it has to mean that you were once STANDING or CONTINUING...so there is no conjecture in that statement...satan had to have one time been in the truth. Second, you presented some conjecture of your own,"it is conceivable that God made satan knowing he would succumb to vanity and is making a show of it for the sake of testimony unto His Glory". The bible tells us nothing of the sort,so that is pure conjecture.

 

[Elijah674]

I was not giving Satan any considerations at all, not really. Just looking for the Bible verses to prove this point. I feel this knowledge to be very usefull when talking to others. I had thought this would have been easy for someone to show me.

Kimberlie - Thank you for your answer, I will read this tonight and get back to you.

See 1 John 5:16-17 for the start of sin to its James 1:15's Finish. I see Lucufer with a call to repentance & then rejected it. And MATURE Rejection had him being cast out of heaven & was his fate with NO return.

And mankind was the plan to prove that God made the correct MORAL Decision, & that even Adam was not created flawed! Christ/Second Adam proved that. Read Eccl. 1:9-10 & Eccl. 3:15 & then see how long God must have bore with sin in heaven? (think of how the Godhead must of Loved these ones! )

We see the Matt. 25 :1's parable & also see 1/2 or %50 were in heavens likened rebellion. And over in Rev. 12 we see that 1/3 were finally given the toss from the rebellion. And the difference between 1/2 & 1/3 is a very small Remnant who were won back to Christ (as 'i' see it) in the Faith of the Eternal Gospel plan of Rev. 14:6 + the Heb, 11:13 verse. And compare the Rev. 12:17 'Remnant' ones again seen here.

--Elijah

PS: And yes, 'i' see the Eccl. 3:15 rebellion of heaven repeated as very similar to the mankind one. From repenting Adam to non/repenting Cain! With even the headstart of satans Cain being satans [DESIED] first fullfledged convert! And Seth not coming on the scene for 120 years as the son, following God.

 

[ronniechoate34]

I am getting back to the bare roots of things in my life, and my Bible study may as well start over too. So, on a simple picture, we have a main good guy, and a main bad guy. Where does it say that the main bad guy (Satan) cannot just give up? Had enough and throw in the towel? Why can't Satan just say he is sorry and go home? Opinions are great and respected, but please show me the scripture that says it is so.
Thanks in advance.

Revelation:20:10: And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.


Isaiah:55:10: For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:
Isaiah:55:11: So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

 

[childeye]

Two things,first,there is no conjecture, satan ABODE NOT in the truth, the word abode there means to stand or even continue,if you STAND NOT or CONTINUE NOT then it has to mean that you were once STANDING or CONTINUING...so there is no conjecture in that statement...satan had to have one time been in the truth. Second, you presented some conjecture of your own,"it is conceivable that God made satan knowing he would succumb to vanity and is making a show of it for the sake of testimony unto His Glory". The bible tells us nothing of the sort,so that is pure conjecture.

You missed my point,"because there is no Truth in Him" referring to why he did not abide in the Truth. I find both points, yours and mine to be conjecture in some degree of the term. But this we do know from scripture. He challenged God's understanding concerning Job. This reveals he thinks himself wiser than God. We also read in Job , his heart is as hard as the lower millstone used to crush wheat into fine flour. So he thinks he's wiser than God and his heart is as hard as they come. Sounds like vanity to me. Moreover the Truth I speak of Him missing, is the knowledge of God as the eternal Spirit of Love. Since he does not comprehend love with his hard heart and thinks God is foolish for believing in the integrity of such as within Job, I see not where he could have ever abode "stood" in the Truth from the beginning, unless referring to a lesser form of knowledge that was corruptible.

To back this up further. Christ being the Word of God is the only begotten of the Father. He was not created, meaning all else that is created must logically be made ignorant of God in some capacity. The casting out of Satan in Revelations is the instituting of a New order in heaven. The purification through the blood is the purging forever of both heavenly and earthly things. I know the mind of Satan. His is contrary to the mind of Christ. Satan never could have known the Father or he would have never crucified the Christ. This is testified to in scripture where Satan said in his heart that he would ascend above the stars of heaven even unto the throne of God. His ignorance of that which is created and that which is Creator is clearly revealed in this scripture. Therefore I must conclude that Satan knew not the Truth from the beginning.

 

[n2thelight]

I am getting back to the bare roots of things in my life, and my Bible study may as well start over too. So, on a simple picture, we have a main good guy, and a main bad guy. Where does it say that the main bad guy (Satan) cannot just give up? Had enough and throw in the towel? Why can't Satan just say he is sorry and go home? Opinions are great and respected, but please show me the scripture that says it is so.
Thanks in advance.

Although I think he had a chance to,he cannot now as he's already been sentenced to death,which why he is also known as the son of perdition...satan was at one time among the highest ranking angels until he wanted to be above God......