Bible Study Could the narrative of Genesis be interpreted as reflecting humanity’s historical shift from hunter-gatherer societies to that of herding and farming?

LanaPodesta said:
where does it say He spoke ANY language?

if they're not to be discerned with 'human logic' how can you say that it is literal?
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Because the Bible says it..

If you cannot accept what the Bible clearly states as the truth then there is no point in having a meaningful conversation with you.

The challenge of living the Christian life is disowning what you've always thought and believed and accepting what God says through His word, the Bible. Without accepting and understanding the Bible you cannot understand who God is and why He does what He does.
 
onlysaved said:
If you cannot accept what the Bible clearly states as the truth then there is no point in having a meaningful conversation with you.
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But it doesn't say anything about God speaking in any human language when he 'spoke' the world into existence
 
LanaPodesta said:
But it doesn't say anything about God speaking in any human language when he 'spoke' the world into existence
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Go read Genesis chapter 1. It uses the phrase "God said"

What language it was in is entirely irrelevant to anything. The point that matters is that God spoke everything that exists into existence.

Adam was the very first human being created. His job was to tend the garden in which God placed him. Before anyone hunted and gathered there was a farmer aka someone who cared for fruits and vegetables.

Life is very simple.. read the Bible, believe the Bible, do what the Bible says.. by simple I don't mean easy I just mean not complex.
Usually when people try to complicate God's word they are hiding because they don't want to deal with a simple truth.
 
LanaPodesta said:
ask your beloved scripture
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I’m asking you. You made a statement and I’m asking what you meant, for clarification. If you want have a discussion, then stick to the basics of conversation and be respectful.
 
Free said:
I’m asking you. You made a statement and I’m asking what you meant, for clarification. If you want have a discussion, then stick to the basics of conversation and be respectful.
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All humans are children of God.
 
LanaPodesta said:
All humans are children of God.
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In what sense? In an extremely general sense, yes. In the context that it was used, it's in the sense of being a follower of Christ, which is its main usage in Scripture:

Joh 1:12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God,
Joh 1:13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God. (ESV)

Rom 8:14 For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God.
Rom 8:15 For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the Spirit of adoption as sons, by whom we cry, “Abba! Father!”
Rom 8:16 The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God,
Rom 8:17 and if children, then heirs—heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, provided we suffer with him in order that we may also be glorified with him.
Rom 8:18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us.
Rom 8:19 For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God.
Rom 8:20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who subjected it, in hope
Rom 8:21 that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to corruption and obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of God.
Rom 8:22 For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now.
Rom 8:23 And not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. (ESV)

2Co 6:17 Therefore go out from their midst, and be separate from them, says the Lord, and touch no unclean thing; then I will welcome you,
2Co 6:18 and I will be a father to you, and you shall be sons and daughters to me, says the Lord Almighty.” (ESV)

Eph 1:4 even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love
Eph 1:5 he predestined us for adoption to himself as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, (ESV)

1Jn 3:1 See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him.
1Jn 3:2 Beloved, we are God's children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is. (ESV)

1Jn 5:1 Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born of God, and everyone who loves the Father loves whoever has been born of him.
1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and obey his commandments. (ESV)

Etc.

That is, it is only true believers that are children of God. Everyone else is:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies. (ESV)

Eph 2:1 And you were dead in the trespasses and sins
Eph 2:2 in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience—
Eph 2:3 among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. (ESV)
 
LanaPodesta said:
what am I 'hiding' from?
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I don't know that you are.
Most people however are hiding from God because they know they desire what is evil and not acknowledging God's sovereign authority allows them to contine their bad behavior without guilt.
 
LanaPodesta said:
huh?
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all means all or does it?
when Jesus and Paul say things like you are children of wrath ,or that the Pharisees are children of Satan what does that mean ? you cant be the child of Satan and be one of God's children
 
Free said:
No. I don't think the Bible ever says that all people are children of God. It could only be said in the vaguest, most general sense, but that isn't supported by Scripture.
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Man is made in God's image. God is the Father. 2+2=4.
 
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