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Covid 19 virus plus vaccine was meant to kill us.
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It is an assumption, but it's based on the data that shows the vaccines actually did and do save lives.
The problem is, that just as with vaccines, "natural immunity" wanes with time and also with the variant that one gets.
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That would depend on the source of the documentation, but I would look into it. Most people don't know good sources from the bad. This is why such conspiracies abound. Even if there is graphene used in one or more of the vaccines, it would be minimal and used for a specific purpose.
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It might have helped some people, maybe some of the most vulnerable, but probably not more than 2% as the data says going from multi millions of people who got infected before the jab was available as the data was running over a period of time that 98% got mild cold or flu like symptoms and were not hospitalised or worse, and the other 2% the high majority were 60+ or had underlying conditions, so maybe the jab could have helped some people within 2% of the most vulnerable to not get hospitalised or saved some lives if they got infected.
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Corn Pop
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I wonder why the system and most people give up after 2 jabs and no jab no job in healthcare, and covid is still around with people being hospitalised mostly those 65+ and with new varients. No mass testing to push an agenda?.No lockdowns?, no manditory masks?. There is probably loads of people with covid but i dont think they tell everyone all day everyday anymore if they feeling sick or got a little runny nose to get tested by the millions.
I would have thought most of those 65+ would have stayed up to date with there jabs.
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I'm just trying to figure out given the data why they pushed so hard for at least a 90% general jab rate when it was basically those in the higher risk age group and the more vulnerable or those with underlying conditions or immunecompromissed who were being hospitalised and would have needed it the most if it helped, given they made up the mass majority of 2% of all people that were hospitalised or critical going on the data before the jab was even available and rolled out as 98% of all people got mild symptoms and recovered.
It was stay home save lives to protect the most vulnerable, then when the jab was available they said it saves lives and helps people get less sick if they get infected, then somehow everyone was either forced no jab no job, or, told or pressured they needed to get it out of fear like all the young, fit and healthy was at high risk and could overwhelm the health system or be hospitalised or critical when the data already showed who was most at risk that would have needed the jab if it could help a demographic apparently overwhelming the system.
I don't know, maybe becauae the state cannot discriminate based on age as one factor they wouldn't use it. Like they can't say only those over 60 must have a jab or no job and everyone else is free. That would be classed as discrimination.
It was stay home save lives to protect the most vulnerable, then when the jab was available they said it saves lives and helps people get less sick if they get infected, then somehow everyone was either forced no jab no job, or, told or pressured they needed to get it out of fear like all the young, fit and healthy was at high risk and could overwhelm the health system or be hospitalised or critical when the data already showed who was most at risk that would have needed the jab if it could help a demographic apparently overwhelming the system.
I don't know, maybe becauae the state cannot discriminate based on age as one factor they wouldn't use it. Like they can't say only those over 60 must have a jab or no job and everyone else is free. That would be classed as discrimination.
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Do you have a source or not? There are uses of graphene being researched for healthcare and none of it has a single thing to do with mind control or 5G.
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Free posted:
Or, European Parliament:
www.europarl.europa.eu
Or, ResearchGate: Scanning and Transmission Electron Microscopy Reveals Graphene Oxide in CoV-19 Vaccines
Or, watch a vid: Dr. Andreas Noack
Free posted:
DETECTION OF GRAPHENE IN COVID19 VACCINES BY MICRO-RAMAN SPECTROSCOPY
Or, European Parliament:
Parliamentary question | Time for the truth on the presence of graphene in the COVID-19 vaccines | P-000303/2022 | European Parliament
Priority question for written answer P-000303/2022 to the Commission Rule 138 Sergio Berlato (ECR)
www.europarl.europa.eu
Or, ResearchGate: Scanning and Transmission Electron Microscopy Reveals Graphene Oxide in CoV-19 Vaccines
Or, watch a vid: Dr. Andreas Noack
Free posted:
He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him. (Pro. 18:13)
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So some politician is suddenly an authority on vaccines and graphene?
Fact Check: COVID-19 vaccines do not contain graphene oxide
According to a factsheet on the U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s website here the ingredients of the Pfizer vaccine include: mRNA, lipids, potassium chloride, monobasic potassium phosphate, sodium chloride, dibasic sodium phosphate dihydrate, and sucrose. It does not list graphene oxide.
A myth has been circulating online that “toxic” graphene oxide makes up more than 99 percent of Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine. The claim appears to have originated on a news program known to promote conspiracy theories and has since spread in numerous languages to multiple social media platforms that don’t regulate or ban false information. The ingredients for all authorized vaccines are listed on the FDA’s website and none of them contain graphene oxide. A Pfizer spokesperson has confirmed that the ingredient is not used in the company’s vaccine.
Next up? " All those scientists, doctors, and journalists are lying!!!!"
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Like I said, most people don't know good sources from bad. And often with such people, they don't bother doing some simple fact checking. That report was debunked as soon as it came out. https://www.reuters.com/article/fac...-do-not-contain-graphene-oxide-idUSL1N2OZ14F/
https://www.rmit.edu.au/news/factlab-meta/another-covid-myth-busted
Professor Pablo Campra's own university denied the findings:
You'll also notice that every source you posted that follows is based off this one false report, which wasn't even peer-reviewed.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/lv03....pdf?rlkey=l4yrp70eryz2zpf3hky4uod9l&e=1&dl=0
That isn't evidence of anything. It isn't research, it's a question put to parliament based on false information.Or, European Parliament:
Parliamentary question | Time for the truth on the presence of graphene in the COVID-19 vaccines | P-000303/2022 | European Parliament
Priority question for written answer P-000303/2022 to the Commission Rule 138 Sergio Berlato (ECR)
This tells me nothing.
https://www.researchgate.net/public...opy_Reveals_Graphene_Oxide_in_CoV-19_Vaccines
This too was debunked.
That is true, but I've heard all this before and know that it has all been debunked long ago.
Anyone who professes to be a follower of Christ should have nothing to do with conspiracy theories.
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The assumed properties of graphene/graphene oxide we see from conspiracy buffs are pretty much imagination. The material has a lot of interesting properties and potential uses, but homicide and mind control are not two of them:
www.ossila.com
What is Graphene Oxide? | Structure, Properties and Methods
Graphene oxide (GO) is oxygen-functionalized graphene. It is a 2D material with a hexagonal lattice of carbon atoms, derived from oxidized graphite. GO has unique properties including easy dispersion in polar solvents and tunable electrical and optical features.
www.ossila.com
I think you trust God and God's Word, what God Says, not what men say. That is good not to trust what men say, in science, medicine, religion, forums, politics, etc etc etc ....
Corn Pop
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Some people got a bit upset with me I never praised and got the born again jab that was apparently going to save my life from the virus of death.
Not even fried chicken could tempt me.
www.9news.com.au
Not even fried chicken could tempt me.
KFC dishing up free chicken to vaccinated Kiwis
Forget the post-jab lollipop, KFC is dishing up free chicken to New Zealanders vaccinated against COVID-19.
www.9news.com.au
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Barbarian
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That's the funny thing about reality. It doesn't care what we think.
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It's like refusing to wear seat belts while traveling by automobile. You probably won't die. But you're really boosting the probability that you will. In the United States, about 12 to 14 times more likely to die of COVID-19, if you were unvaccinated.
Who would be foolish enough to buck those odds?
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In America, for example, about 1 person died for every 270 Americans. But 1 vaccinated person died for every 3,200 persons. Over a million of us died, mostly unvaccinated people. Still seems like a pointless risk to take, given how safe the vaccine turned out to be.
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The most angry and furious person I seen during lockdown and jab rollout was a popup jab tent and i will say they allegedly offered his children the jab in exchange for a 50 buck voucher and his kids must have told him, stranger danger, and he was flipping out full animal, it was like nearly to the point someone needed to call the cops, he was just being a protective Father. I think he was really angry that some adults were apparently offering a reward to his kids in exchange they put something inside there body when he wasnt watching and he found out.
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