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Covid Vaccine, a Gospel imperative
- Thread starter Drew
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Drew
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It may be helpful to look at the history of vaccines in general. From Dr. Mark Levandovsky (oncologist):
When it comes to cancer and vaccines, it is crucial to note that being vaccinated against a virus or other disease has not been associated with development of cancerous tumors. In fact, studies have demonstrated that appropriate immunizations could actually provide a decrease in the risk of developing cancers, including leukemia in children, and certainly HPV–associated cancers of the cervix, anus and oropharynx.
Obviously, we do not have any long-term data on Covid vaccines and cancer.
Just like we do not have long term data on whether getting Covid will cause cancer.
I will take my chances on what the trained experts recommend, and I suggest this is the wisest course of action for all.
Thank you!
I would blame it on the narcotics after having the gall bladder surgery, but I only took two of them since last Thursday, so it's not that.
What I learned a while ago is that you can be aggressive in your posts, but it doesn't do anything but make people dig in their heels even further. I know it does for me. Plus, when I write, I am not only writing for the person that I am replying to but the lurkers who may see these posts. When they see reasonable and calm responses, they see someone who is calm and who isn't allowing their emotions to dictate what they write.
It's kinda like yelling and screaming compared to someone remaining calm and even-toned. One looks irrational and the other not so much. Who would most people listen to?
I'm not saying that I am perfect and I do get carried away at times.
As far as being wrong? I am only wrong to those who think the opposite as me. :P
The whole issue is about people's opinion.
There are doctors who strongly advise against the vaccine, and there are doctors who strongly promote it.
So no, its certainly not "deeply misleading" for me to say each person is entitled to their opinion.
JLB
Can you provide me the evidence that the Covid vaccine will not harm me and my family?
Where do your "facts" come from?
Im referring to things that doctors prescribe, that have been discovered years later to cause cancer.
Milk-Drops
Member
My general stance on this issue is that people do have the right to refuse to be vaccinated, but companies and social media have the right as well to restrict access based on a person's choice. Just like I avoid people who are outspoken against vaccination in real life. I live in an area where the virus has caused damage to many families and several neighbors have died from complications from the illness. I. Fully vaccinated, mainly because my grandfather died while the restrictions were in place so I could not be with him.
Milk-Drops
Member
Vaccines in general are poison.
For years people believed that vaccines caused autism.
Since it cannot be proven, it is no longer talked about.
Now the new vaccines.
Those in the medical field that have a lot to lose financially say that the vaccines are simply causing false negatives.
Just look on google.
The first 100 threads are from medical people who will lose money if they don't insist that the vaccine is perfectly safe.
I don't trust the medical field, I don't trust insurance companies, I don't trust any government of any country, I only trust God.
And I put my life in his hands.
For years people believed that vaccines caused autism.
Since it cannot be proven, it is no longer talked about.
Now the new vaccines.
Those in the medical field that have a lot to lose financially say that the vaccines are simply causing false negatives.
Just look on google.
The first 100 threads are from medical people who will lose money if they don't insist that the vaccine is perfectly safe.
I don't trust the medical field, I don't trust insurance companies, I don't trust any government of any country, I only trust God.
And I put my life in his hands.
I just want to post a news article that came across my newsfeed just now. Take from it what you will, but I am going to post the relevant to me in my mind.
"The Sun Sentinel notes that the newest group of patients in Florida’s hospital is mainly people between the ages of 25 and 55 who are unvaccinated and mostly have no underlying health conditions."
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/567554-florida-sets-new-high-for-daily-covid-19-cases
"The Sun Sentinel notes that the newest group of patients in Florida’s hospital is mainly people between the ages of 25 and 55 who are unvaccinated and mostly have no underlying health conditions."
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/567554-florida-sets-new-high-for-daily-covid-19-cases
Edward
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Thank you!
I would blame it on the narcotics after having the gall bladder surgery, but I only took two of them since last Thursday, so it's not that.
What I learned a while ago is that you can be aggressive in your posts, but it doesn't do anything but make people dig in their heels even further. I know it does for me. Plus, when I write, I am not only writing for the person that I am replying to but the lurkers who may see these posts. When they see reasonable and calm responses, they see someone who is calm and who isn't allowing their emotions to dictate what they write.
It's kinda like yelling and screaming compared to someone remaining calm and even-toned. One looks irrational and the other not so much. Who would most people listen to?
I'm not saying that I am perfect and I do get carried away at times.
As far as being wrong? I am only wrong to those who think the opposite as me. :tongue
Yep. We all have our good days and bad days. When I first joined here I was pretty rough around the edges so I stirred up board emotions quite a bit for a little while, lol. I was even given a 30 day ban once (twice?). Lol
But I've learned that, if someone is disagreeing and is starting to get emotional, better to not even reply or stir the pot. Some people can be in disagreement and still discuss fruitfully but others just will not hear anyone but themselves. So why talk to them anyway? I call this I learned to speak diplomat. Because you can speak diplomat also, you bring peace to the discussion. And a cool head makes more sense than emotions will.
Tis helps me grow. I have been proven wrong on other stuff before and...was able to digest that so to learn and grow. I am teachable, even if I am wrong.
I too had to learn, the hard way.
I was banned so many times.....
Milk-Drops
Member
That's quite false and deserves more than just a statement. Vaccines are a form of preventative medicine to lower risks or inoculate against diseases.
No, not at all. A single paper written by former Dr Andrew Wakefield tried to tie the specific MMR (Measels, Mumps, and Rubella) vaccine to irritable bowel and Autism. The paper was extremely controversial when it was discovered that the sample size was extremely small and contained no true control group. Not to mention many of the subjects had already show signs of autism before vaccination. All of this in a ploy for Mr. Wakefield to sell his own vaccine.
do you have evidence that this is happening, or hear say?
Google itself isn't a source. You can put anything on a website and pay Google to list it.
here is the catch 22. All medicine has risks and side effects and has a range of effectiveness based on individuals biology. The people are equally as likely to make sure the vaccine is safe to keep receiving government funding.
ok, I hope that works out for you.
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stovebolts
Member
Perhaps it’s more about respecting the others opinions than it is about entitlement.
In other words, your opinion doesn’t really matter because it disagrees with my opinion.
It is your sense of values that obligate you to speak out. When you speak out against another who holds different values on a subject, you take the risk of creating unwanted strife. Force that that value on another, and that strife becomes a manifestation of the differing opinions.
Not really. None of us are experts and we’re all doing the best we can and honestly, none of us has done the actual work. As a result, we only hold opinions of what the “experts” say. In your opinion, you disagree with the opinions of others and your values cause strife.
in your opinion, you hold trust in the vaccine. Other people hold different opinions which cause them not to trust the vaccine.
At the end of the day, I can guarantee you that many who don’t trust the vaccine will not get them.
My value system tells me to keep loving them anyway I can. For me, it’s by teaching them about early treatment with monoclonal therapy.
stovebolts
Member
Lol, and yet here we are and you still put a smile on many faces.
Sun Sentinel is really giving us some good hard data here
. Newest Group ? 5 or 6 people ? Mostly ? 51% have no underlying conditions ?