Culture Wars

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But do you know anything about the programs? In detail? Where homosexuality is discussed with the students. A special class taught by an outsider.
We got horrific reports via media and tv.
Letting kids even under 10 years of age, question their own sexuality? "Am I gay? "
Do you think such a classroom topic is appropriate with children?

Ah, it doesn't look like it has anything to do with homosexuality, but about the concept of transgender and non binary people. This is a complex topic because it does involve children.

I have not seen any program that gives kids hormones and I think from the little information the man talks about it looks like its mostly hyperbole. In the US we just have parts of health class and social studies that mention that LGBTQ people exist. Thats a fact, they exist.


Right now its the squishy area of what do you do if a kid is going through mental anguish due to gender identity or sexuality? If its positive it could be controversial with the parents, if its negative, LGBT people who need help get hurt. If its neutral then what does that even mean?

I mean, these are kids, its kind of like thebgoth/scene/ Freak/ nerd cliques. A kid might question but LGBTQ people see gender anf sexuality as passive traits, so its not this will make kids LGBTQ.

Like I said its a complex issue and it seems that there really is not a right answer without seeing a curriculum.

 

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Ok, this is where I think we are losing each other. You brought up how we see the word activist. I was pointing out that activist can be used specifically or vaguely. That is beside my main point that I am of the opinion that sometimes people talk past each other in terms of projection instead of listening and adapting their approach to the situation. More along the means of getting to an end point instead of coming to an understanding.

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The point I am making is not of a scriptural nature. I'm not saying the Bible says X or Y. I am pointing out the importance of listening to each other and to not talk past each other. Humble mentioned that they were called a homophobe on twitter. I was pointing out how and why that happens and where the language barrier is.

I'm pointing out the importance of understanding or seeking to understand the people you want to engage with. We are not talking about validity at this point, but about recognizing the humanity on both sides.

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The Word of God is not being challenged. Its the approach of the person using the Word of God. For example a person can be righteous in the lord, but if they can't deliver the message then they won't win souls. A person can be correct, but if they can't apply what they know and understand, then its as if the person knows nothing at all by perception.

I think that you are misunderstanding what my approach is. Its not a challenge of the The Word, its a challenge of tactic. A person of God can still be fallible in their means to convey the word of God.

If a person is in need of a bucket and reaches out their right hand, but you instead try to place it in their left hand, the problem is that it becomes more about what you want to do than the person's needs.
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OK, now I'm picking up what you are putting down. That is a big problem when we try to over talk others as we shut our ears to what they want to say instead of listening and then replying. Be observant to listen and slow to reply as in hearing what another one speaks. Many times on this forum I see that we are agreeing with each other, but not even realizing it as we over talk. I know I am guilty of this at times and then have to go back and reread what another has posted and find they are saying the same thing, but in a different way.