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Danger Wicca On The Rise!

whatever happened to the simplicity in Christ. To where we fellowship together breaking bread with oneanother speaking how christ has moved in our lives and asking the brothers and sisters to pray with oneanother not about self but the kingdom of Heaven...
Its time for the true Church to arrise and be made a voice shouting in the wilderness ( World )
Time to do away with idols and images and people in high places in the name of Christ. Lets fellowship with oneanother according to the priciples laid out in the new Covenant. Just as i am typeing this i am being made aware how self must die and Christ be made alive and Jesus receives all the Glory...Amen and amen..............David
 
This lack for a desire to worship like you say begins with our Christian leadership so called, for instance does this grin bring anybody to mind :-?

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Some people as foolish as it may seem actually think they know the mind of God.
A good example is the way Jobs friends hammered on him, then in the 38trh.
Chapter God gave him a lesson. Btw, what ever happened to Dark Water?



darkwater isn't saying that he "knows how God thinks", . . . and I will tell YOU (and anyone else who thinks they DO know how God thinks) that you don't either!! So many times, even the most devout/pious Christian puts God in a smaller box than "those sinners out there".
 
My point is, . . . . even the most pious/religious/devout person STILL doesn't fully know God, . . . only what was written down in ancient texts and SAID to be "from God". . . . . . . . . and even the majority of THOSE works say NOTHING about the words coming "from God". Just the one single verse in Timothy, and that's pretty vague as to what was even being talked about there!

So, my point is, all this talk about what makes someone "a Christian" is just the "wisdom of man". We all just LOVE to "be right" about things and feel like we have arrived. I shake my head at such mentality.
 
I can understand why you folks would be unhappy about the phenominal growth in Wicca, especially since Christianity can't seem to keep up, but why would you call it "dangerous"?

I mean it's not like we go around killing people or burning them at the stake....
 
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Wicca you say? And there is no difference between a white witch and the one that stirs the cauldron. All of these organizations are joined at the hip

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To Whom It May Concern:

June 21 and December 22 each year, Satanist, perform Human Sacrifices as part of their Satanic rituals. These are known as the "Summer and Winter Solstice".

During these rituals an Human Infant is killed and sacrificed to Satan (Baphemet-the Goat Headed Demon),

and the Satanist drink the blood of the Infant Human they sacrifice, and Baphemet appears before them and goes out to kill the enemies of those satanist who perform this Human Sacrifice.

I am a Nationally know Federal Whistleblower:

I currently have a Federal Grand Jury Demand filed in Las Vegas, Nevada US District Court Sept 2001. Case Number CV-S-01-0714-PMP-PAL soon to be appealed.

Halloween is a favorite time of the year
 
"June 21 and December 22 each year, Satanist, perform Human Sacrifices as part of their Satanic rituals. These are known as the "Summer and Winter Solstice".

During these rituals an Human Infant is killed and sacrificed to Satan (Baphemet-the Goat Headed Demon),

and the Satanist drink the blood of the Infant Human they sacrifice, and Baphemet appears before them and goes out to kill the enemies of those satanist who perform this Human Sacrifice."


ROFL

Do people actually still believe this stuff?

First of all, Witches and Satanists as different as Buddhists and Christians.

Secondly, human sacrifice? Puhleese...

The Satanic Panic fallacy went out of fashion 20 years ago.
 
Noooooooooo...

I know good and well neither Witches, nor even Satanists ever did practice human sacrifice.

The whole Satanic Panic thing was long ago shown to be a hoax and a fallacy, both by law enforcement, and by Christian investigators as well.

You might want to be careful. I am led to believe that your Bible forbids false witness. I would guess that that would include making false accusations even against Satanists?

Or do you believe God is OK with making false accusations against non-Christians?
 
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Really now do you actually think Satan is capable of telling the truth? If he puts it in
a publishers mind to write these things were a hoax you'd still believe it? Of course
these things are kept secret, witches cast spells and call up demons witch doctors do
likewise but they cry foul when it comes to human sacrifice. Havoc we live in a
world full of evil packed with it you can almost smell it. Have you ever talked to a
Satanist? if the demon that controls their life wants to it can hiss at you, puke
and spit on you. Well like the saying goes well never mind that wouldn't be right :sad
 
turnorburn said:
Really now do you actually think Satan is capable of telling the truth? If he puts it in
a publishers mind to write these things were a hoax you'd still believe it? Of course
these things are kept secret,

So let me get this straight.....

The FBI, Scotland yard, State Authorities, Christianity Today, and a multitude of other professional investigators, including Christians, have all agreed that the human sacrifice/Satanic Panic/Ritual Abuse thing was nothing more than a fallacy..... and you want me to believe that it's because Satan is controlling them all to make them say it?

Riiiiiiiiiiiight

That the lack of any evidence of their existence is peoof of their existence?

Riiiiiiiiiiight

Ever heard of a little thing called Occam's Razor?

Have you ever talked to a
Satanist? if the demon that controls their life wants to it can hiss at you, puke
and spit on you. Well like the saying goes well never mind that wouldn't be right :sad

Yes I have talked to quite a few Satanists. I don't particularly agree with their philosophy, but then i don't agree with yours either. I have seen nothing that would indicate they are controlled by any "demon", or anything beyond their own self-service.
 
Sorry I know this is an older thread but somehow I missed it. I have a niece and her ex husband who are Wiccan . They are nuts , and Im sorry ,but Im not afaraid of either of them . My neice has cast many a spell on me because Im a Christian. I should be at least a toad by now. :o ...LOL

If a person beleives they can be hurt in someway then that person will think he or she is being hurt by a so called spell. I look at it like this I have God and I need not fear those who to me are nothing more then people playing some dumb game. My niece has been practiceing Wicca for 20 years and has yet to have even one spell work. Her Ex works at the Pentagon , has for the past 8 years. When the FBI came to do a background check on him thru family memebers I brought up the fact that he was a Wiccan and also thought he was a wizard. They said oh we know but that has nothing to do with his getting the job. So you see I think most people don't take them seriously. :-D Also we already know that God will prevail against satan so I feel safe how about you. ?
 
Magus: "Listen to the words of the Great mother, who of old was also called among men Artemis, Astarte, Dione, Melusine, Aphrodite, Cerridwen, Diana, Arianrhod, Bride, and by many other names."

High Priestess: "At mine Altars the youth of Lacedaemon in Sparta made due sacrifice. Whenever ye have need of anything, once in the month, and better it be when the moon is full, ye shall assemble in some secret place and adore the spirit of Me who am Queen of all Witcheries and magics. There ye shall assemble, ye who are fain to learn all sorcery, yet have not won its deepest secrets. To these will I teach things that are yet unknown. And ye shall be free from slavery, and as a sign that ye be really free, ye shall be naked in your rites, both men and women, and ye shall dance, sing, feast, make music, and love, all in my praise. There is a Secret Door that I have made to establish the way to taste even on earth the elixir of immortality. Say, 'Let ecstasy be mine, and joy on earth even to me, To Me,' For I am a gracious Goddess. I give unimaginable joys on earth, certainty, not faith, while in life! And upon death, peace unutterable, rest, and ecstasy, nor do I demand aught in sacrifice."

*******This is for everyone who thinks that the book series Harry Potter, the show Charmed, the movie The Craft, and all the other pale imitations of the spirituality of Wicca will lead people astray. Maybe some people notice the "occult" more after the media tells them to, but they will lose interest quickly when they see how deep it truly runs. Anyone who buys a book in the week after reading Harry Potter will abandon it just as quickly; this person is a bandwaggon hopper, and is to be pitied. "If you do not stand for something, you will fall for anything."

Wicca is not witchcraft. This is the truth. There are Wiccans who are not witches, and there are witches who are not Wiccan. Wicca is a philosohy, witchcraft a practice. Just like how a rectangle is a square but a square is not necessarily a rectangle.

I also would like to make a plea to the Christian community at large to please become more educated about that which is so readily condemned. I read here that is is not the responsibility of a Christian to know what Wicca "is" but what it "is not." Wicca is not about Jesus, and so therefore must be about Satan. I understand this view even if I do not agree with it. But I would encourage more people to learn about what they do not agree with. Knowledge is a beautiful thing. Understanding gives peace. A black-and-white worldview has no dimension.
 
IcyFlowers said:
Magus: "Listen to the words of the Great mother, who of old was also called among men Artemis, Astarte, Dione, Melusine, Aphrodite, Cerridwen, Diana, Arianrhod, Bride, and by many other names."

High Priestess: "At mine Altars the youth of Lacedaemon in Sparta made due sacrifice. Whenever ye have need of anything, once in the month, and better it be when the moon is full, ye shall assemble in some secret place and adore the spirit of Me who am Queen of all Witcheries and magics. There ye shall assemble, ye who are fain to learn all sorcery, yet have not won its deepest secrets. To these will I teach things that are yet unknown. And ye shall be free from slavery, and as a sign that ye be really free, ye shall be naked in your rites, both men and women, and ye shall dance, sing, feast, make music, and love, all in my praise. There is a Secret Door that I have made to establish the way to taste even on earth the elixir of immortality. Say, 'Let ecstasy be mine, and joy on earth even to me, To Me,' For I am a gracious Goddess. I give unimaginable joys on earth, certainty, not faith, while in life! And upon death, peace unutterable, rest, and ecstasy, nor do I demand aught in sacrifice."

*******This is for everyone who thinks that the book series Harry Potter, the show Charmed, the movie The Craft, and all the other pale imitations of the spirituality of Wicca will lead people astray. Maybe some people notice the "occult" more after the media tells them to, but they will lose interest quickly when they see how deep it truly runs. Anyone who buys a book about Wicca in the week after reading Harry Potter will abandon it just as quickly; this person is a bandwaggon hopper, and is to be pitied. "If you do not stand for something, you will fall for anything."

Wicca is not witchcraft. This is the truth. There are Wiccans who are not witches, and there are witches who are not Wiccan. Wicca is a philosohy, witchcraft a practice. Just like how a rectangle is a square but a square is not necessarily a rectangle.

I also would like to make a plea to the Christian community at large to please become more educated about that which is so readily condemned. I read here that is is not the responsibility of a Christian to know what Wicca "is" but what it "is not." Wicca is not about Jesus, and so therefore must be about Satan. I understand this view even if I do not agree with it. But I would encourage more people to learn about what they do not agree with. Knowledge is a beautiful thing. Understanding gives peace. A black-and-white worldview has no dimension.

So here's a question: Who among you who have read the above quote were mystified, puzzled, disgusted, confused, angered, outraged, or just did not care? And how many of you know what is, who wrote it, where it's from, or when it was written? This is an elementary writing to anyone with basic knowlege of the occult. Trivia! Who knows it?
 
The Only thing I can say is Greater is he that is in me than he that is in the World. Yes we have an enemy, but if we are submitting to the Holy Spirit we will be clothed in the Full Armor of God. Let him fight this battle our part is to Praise, Pray and Fellowship with God. If we are doing that we have nothing to fear.
 
I see the urban myths came out early this year.

and on both sides even.


Is Wicca on the rise? absolutely.
Should it be addressed? yes.

not out of fear though.

The rise of the neo-pagan religions should be addressed responsibly by christians
actually learning and following the Saviour. Not spreading urban myths.

I seem to recall a post in this thread that suggested a difference between Wicca and
witchcraft, that is partially correct. however, both of them lead people away from
Jesus, and that is the tragedy here in this situation.


Mark
 
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