Daniel & Revelation Reveal The Antichrist

[parousia70]

I'm more concerned for the souls who aren't saved. They are still under Satan's rule.

Are you suggesting that the unrepentant will one day share in Christ's victory over Satan?

No Scripture I am aware of teaches any such thing.

And just exactly how does satan rule over them today?
Can he prevent them from Choosing Salvation?

 

[parousia70]

But since you say this site doesn't value the use of Biblical passages, I won't bother.

Proving my point, I guess....
Too bad.
I quoted several verses supporting my claim that Jesus is the God if this world Today.

Why don't use those verses to show us why they don't mean what I contend they do?

When Jesus said "ALL POWER is given me in heaven AND IN EARTH", what did He mean?

Seems pretty clear to me.

 

[Vic C.]

Proving my point, I guess....
Too bad.
I quoted several verses supporting my claim that Jesus is the God if this world Today.

Lighten up, I was being funny. :P


2 Cor 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:


Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.


1 John 5:19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.

However, this is all off topic...

 

[researcher]

Satan is already the ruler, 'god' of this world .

Incorrect.
Jesus rules the world

Matthew 28:18
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, ALL POWER is given unto me in heaven AND IN EARTH.

Yep, that what it says. Jesus got all authority and power a long time ago.

 

[parousia70]

However, this is all off topic...

perhaps, but, I'm still interested in your apparent assertion that the unrepentant will one day share in Christ's victory over Satan.

Where is that taught?

And what power over the Unrepentant does Satan currently have?

Are the Unrepentant powerless to choose Christ?

if not, than Satan is the one who is powerless.

 

[Sinthesis]

Proving my point, I guess....
Too bad.
I quoted several verses supporting my claim that Jesus is the God if this world Today.

Lighten up, I was being funny. :P


2 Cor 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:


Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.


1 John 5:19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.

However, this is all off topic...

Technically, it is also all pre-70AD.

 

[Vic C.]

perhaps, but, I'm still interested in your apparent assertion that the unrepentant will one day share in Christ's victory over Satan.

Never, not once in my life, have I ever made that assertion.

Full preterism is a dangerous teaching. You have nothing to offer the new believer. There is no blessed hope of His return in their future... nothing, just the Bible and it's historical context to an unfortunate extreme.

Thank you for reminding me how dangerous this belief is to the believer.

Technically, it is also all pre-70AD

Technically, that is speculation.

 

[Matthew24:34]

Proving my point, I guess....
Too bad.
I quoted several verses supporting my claim that Jesus is the God if this world Today.

Lighten up, I was being funny. :P


2 Cor 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:


Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.


1 John 5:19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.

However, this is all off topic...

Greetings, Vic C: Let's put those verses in context and with correct translation.

2 Cor. 4:4--Paul is speaking of the gospel being veiled to those who do not believe. Paul stated that the "god of this AGE [aion]" was then blinding the minds of those who believed not. At that point, the god of THAT age in which they were then living had not yet been crushed. Paul declared in Romans 16:20 that such a crushing of Satan was to SOON take place under THEIR feet--in other words, the "feet" of those of that first-centurty, pre-A. D. 70 time!

Eph. 2:2--Here we find both the term aion (age) and kosmos (world). Literally it is "according to the age of this world (kata ton aiona tou kosmou toutou). It is the age that is key here. There was clearly a concept then among the Jews of a "this age and the age about to come." Jesus, in the context of His followers leaving brother, sisters, fathers or mothers to follow Him, spoke of "this time" and the "age to come" (Mark 10:30). The writer of Hebrews when comparing the Old Covenant and the New make it clear that the Old Covenant system was insufficient and that Christ had brought that which was perfect, that which was the reality of all of the shadows of the old. The writer demonstrates that at that time, the Old Covenant was growing old, becoming obsolete and ready to vanish away (Heb. 8)! The age in which they then lived was the age in which Satan was allowed to rule. His works were seen in that age of demon possessions and lying wonders and blinding of the nations! But his time was then short. He was, in that day, to be soon crushed under the feet of those saints of that day. That crushing took place when the old (the Judaistic system of insufficient sacrifices and noncleansing rules and regulations) was completely removed in the destruction of Jerusalem, the temple, and the OT people--physical, national Israel!

Eph. 6:12--Notice again that these "principalities" and "powers" and "rulers" are of what Paul confined to "this age"--in other words, the age in which they were THEN living. They are not a part of the age which was then ABOUT TO COME! It was that same age that was about to come when Caiaphas and the Sanhedrin were to see Christ "sitting at the right hand of power and coming on the clouds of heaven" (Matthew 26:64). He is the ruler of this world! Any evil done in this world is done from the wickedness of men's own hearts. The unredeemed heart has always been "desperately wicked." It does nothing but evil always. We need no scapegoat at whose feet we can place the responsibility for the evil in this world! Man's own wickedness is sufficient!

1 John 5:19--John speaks of the same "wicked one" who was to "soon" be crushed under THEIR feet!

Matthew 24:34

 

[parousia70]

perhaps, but, I'm still interested in your apparent assertion that the unrepentant will one day share in Christ's victory over Satan.

Never, not once in my life, have I ever made that assertion.

Really?

Vic C. wrote: I'm more concerned for the souls who aren't saved. They are still under Satan's rule.

By saying the unrepentant are "STILL" under satans rule, you are implying that you are looking froward to a day when they will have victory over him.

Please explain.

Full preterism is a dangerous teaching. You have nothing to offer the new believer.

When Have I claimed to be a full preterist?

There is no blessed hope of His return in their future... nothing, just the Bible and it's historical context to an unfortunate extreme.

So, in your view, after Christ returns you have no more hope?
The return of Christ destroys the Hope of the Christian?

 

[Sinthesis]

Technically, it is also all pre-70AD

Technically, that is speculation.

Those four verses were written pre-70AD. How they apply to us is open to speculation. That they can and should be applied to our lives is evident.

 

[Vic C.]

By saying the unrepentant are "STILL" under satans rule, you are implying that you are looking froward to a day when they will have victory over him.

I'm implying nothing of the sort. Please, I don't have time for semantics. You know what I was trying to convey. They could still be in their disbelief when they die or when He returns, whichever comes first. If I should have phrased it differently, you could have come out and said so.

So, in your view, after Christ returns you have no more hope?
The return of Christ destroys the Hope of the Christian?

Not destroys, fulfills. Because I believe (future)that Jesus comes, gathers all who belong to Him and salvation is complete; the "church" age is then over and His Kingdom age is ushered in. Preterism takes that away, not me.

Mat 24,

For me, there was an age before the cross, one after the cross (church age, not the age of the particular generation in which Paul was writing to) and a millennial age which I take as literal.

Those four verses were written pre-70AD. How they apply to us is open to speculation. That they can and should be applied to our lives is evident.

I agree to when they were written, no argument there. One look at the state of today's world and in particular the Body, I disagree that the application is speculative. I agree that there IS practical application today. It reminds us that Evil still lurks upon the earth, looking to devour all those who haven't come to a saving knowledge of Jesus and accepted that wonderful invitation.


Now I addressed the questions of this interrogation... can we please get tack to the topic of Antichrist? :D

Thank you and no further questions toward me will be answered. You people are energy vampires!

 

[Matthew24:34]

By saying the unrepentant are "STILL" under satans rule, you are implying that you are looking froward to a day when they will have victory over him.

I'm implying nothing of the sort. Please, I don't have time for semantics. You know what I was trying to convey. They could still be in their disbelief when they die or when He returns, whichever comes first. If I should have phrased it differently, you could have come out and said so.

[quote:1e6v9vyi]So, in your view, after Christ returns you have no more hope?
The return of Christ destroys the Hope of the Christian?

Not destroys, fulfills. Because I believe (future)that Jesus comes, gathers all who belong to Him and salvation is complete; the "church" age is then over and His Kingdom age is ushered in. Preterism takes that away, not me.

Mat 24,

For me, there was an age before the cross, one after the cross (church age, not the age of the particular generation in which Paul was writing to) and a millennial age which I take as literal.

Those four verses were written pre-70AD. How they apply to us is open to speculation. That they can and should be applied to our lives is evident.

I agree to when they were written, no argument there. One look at the state of today's world and in particular the Body, I disagree that the application is speculative. I agree that there IS practical application today. It reminds us that Evil still lurks upon the earth, looking to devour all those who haven't come to a saving knowledge of Jesus and accepted that wonderful invitation.


Now I addressed the questions of this interrogation... can we please get tack to the topic of Antichrist? :D

Thank you and no further questions toward me will be answered. You people are energy vampires! [/quote:1e6v9vyi]

Yeah, I know the feeling. :rolling

 

[parousia70]

By saying the unrepentant are "STILL" under satans rule, you are implying that you are looking froward to a day when they will have victory over him.

I'm implying nothing of the sort. Please, I don't have time for semantics. You know what I was trying to convey. They could still be in their disbelief when they die or when He returns, whichever comes first. If I should have phrased it differently, you could have come out and said so.

You cited the idea that since the unrepentant were still under satan's rule, it is evidence that Christ's victory over satan is incomplete. I'm merely saying that, since the unrepentant will NEVER share in Christ's victory, His victory MUST be complete today.
Besides, Satan has no power over anyone anymore anyway, so I don't really know what you mean by Satan having power over them anyway..

[quote:1m5w13tv]So, in your view, after Christ returns you have no more hope?
The return of Christ destroys the Hope of the Christian?

Not destroys, fulfills. Because I believe (future)that Jesus comes, gathers all who belong to Him and salvation is complete; the "church" age is then over and His Kingdom age is ushered in. Preterism takes that away, not me.[/quote:1m5w13tv]

No, preterism acknowleges the present victory and fulfillment of that gathering, as you said, Fulfilling, not destroying, our hope. You don't hope for what you already have do you?

For me, there was an age before the cross, one after the cross (church age, not the age of the particular generation in which Paul was writing to) and a millennial age which I take as literal.

So according to you Jesus meant the age before the cross when He said this?:
Luke 20:34 And Jesus answered and said to them, "The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage.

How bout when he said this?:
Matt 13:40 Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of this age.

 

[parousia70]

Now I addressed the questions of this interrogation... can we please get tack to the topic of Antichrist? :D

Sure. antichrist of scripture was a first century spirit that affected many, not a 21st century singular human despot.

Thank you and no further questions toward me will be answered.

OK...Take your ball and go home if you must.

You people are energy vampires!

Iron sharpens Iron

 

[Sinthesis]

One look at the state of today's world and in particular the Body, I disagree that the application is speculative. I agree that there IS practical application today. It reminds us that Evil still lurks upon the earth, looking to devour all those who haven't come to a saving knowledge of Jesus and accepted that wonderful invitation.

I'm just saying that how they apply is based on interpretation, and as these forums prove, some interpretations can be speculative at best. However, that won't stop people from trying to apply all kinds of verses to their lives, correctly interpreted or not. For example, to get back on topic, 'under which rock should I hide from the antichrist' etc. :help

 

[sheshisown]

Hello ~ just thought to add some research to this discussion, hope you do not mind brothers.

As we study prophecy we put a great deal of stress on the "Second Coming of Christ," understandably... But we are forgetting that there are two other comings of "individuals" that are just as important in prophetic understanding as our Lord Jesus Christ's coming, though none so good and blessed. :D

The first is that of Antichrist, and the other is that of Satan...

In both the Old and New Testament we are told of a mysterious and terrible person, that will be revealed in the "Last Times." He is described under different names and aliases and descritions, and it is only by careful examination and comparison of these names, and the person they describe that we see that they refer to one and the same individual.
These names are:

In the Old Testament
Isaiah 14:4~"King of Babylon." And 14:12â€â€"Lucifer."
Daniel 7:8, 8:9~"The Little Horn." And 8:23â€â€"A King of Fierce Countenance. And 9:26~"The Prince that Shall Come." And 11:36~"The Wilful King."

In the New Testament
Paul - 2 Thess. 2:3-8 "The Man of Sin." "Son of Perdition." "That Wicked."
John 1 John 2:18~"Antichrist"
Rev. 13:1â€â€"The Beast."

Now I realise you may not agree with my view, non preterist, however we look not to one another for understanding but to the word.

Jesus also made a prophetic reference to him.

"I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not; if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. John 5:43.

The Jews rejected Jesus as their Messiah, but when the Antichrist comes they will accept him.

So lets look at his personality instead of just the currently acceptible name of Antichrist for a while.


The Apostolic Church believed that Antichrist was to be a "person," the embodiment of human blasphemy and wickedness, but toward the close of the 12th Century many started to look at the Pope as Antichrist, and this view was advocated by Protestant commentators mostly. The arguments in favor of this view are ingenious and plausible, but... and this is where the rubber always meets the road... they are hard to reconcile with the Word of God.

WHY?
Because this view makes Antichrist a "system" rather than a person, and would see in the "Papal system" the Antichrist. But this is disproved by the Word of God.
:yes

The Apostle John saysâ€â€

"Who is a liar, but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is Antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son." 1 John 2:22.
"Every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in THE FLESH (His Deity) is not of God; and this is that spirit of Antichrist." 1 John 4:3.
Judaism has denied that "Jesus is the Christ," and Unitarianism denies that He has "come in the flesh," but the Papacy never. The Church of Rome has always confessed "I believe in God the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord."

These Protestant commentators insist that the "Papal system" is described in Rev. 17:4+5 under the figure of a "woman" arrayed in "purple and scarlet color," and decked with "gold and precious stones and pearls." This is undoubtedly true, but this "woman," the "mother of harlots," is represented as riding upon a "Beast," whom the majority of non-preterist belivers say is the Antichrist. If the "Beast" is the Antichrist, the "woman" cannot be, and that they are separate and do not signify the same thing is clear. . .

In another place the Antichrist, as the "Man of Sin" is to:

"Exalt himself and magnify himself above every god." Dan. 11:36,37. "So that he AS GOD sitteth in the Temple of God showing himself that he IS GOD." 2 Thess. 2:4. (my emphasis)
However false and impious the claims of the Papacy at times, it always recognizes its subordination to God, and the Pope's highest claim is that he is the "Vicar of Christ." Which of course is troublesome as well, since vicar means one acting "in the person of" or agent for a superior (compare "vicarious" in the sense of "at second hand"). In this sense, the title is comparable to lieutenant, literally the "place-holder".

"All the world wondered after the Beast (the Antichrist), and they worshipped the Dragon (the Devil), which gave power unto the Beast." Rev. 13:3,4.

However, the "Papal system" worships the "Virgin" and the "Saints," but it is not true that it worships the Devil.

"If any man worship the Beast and His Image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the Wrath of God, . . . and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone; . . . and the smoke of their torment ascendeth up forever and ever; and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the Beast and His Image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name." Rev. 14:9-11.

If the "Papal system" is the Antichrist, it follows from the above that all its worshippers, instead of being saved, are doomed to eternal torment.

Again, the Lord, who destroys Antichrist "at His Coming," comes to Jerusalem, not to Rome, the seat of the "Papal system."

While there are many things in the history of the Church of Rome, and in the conduct of her Popes that "foreshadow" the Antichrist, still it is clear from these scriptures that the "Papal system" is not the Antichrist, and that these scriptures can only be fulfilled in the person of some "Individual" yet to appear.
:shades

bonnie

 

[sheshisown]

Another issue I want to address is that it is very possible to CONTRAST SHARPLY Jesus Christ and Antichrist from the word, and discern either from such a contrast.

Contrasts

Christ came from Above. John 6:38.
Antichrist ascends from The Pit. Rev. 11:7.

Christ came in His Father's name. John 5:43.
Antichrist comes in his Own name. John 5:43.

Christ Humbled Himself. Phil. 2:8.
Antichrist Exalts himself. 2 Thess. 2:4.

Christ Despised. Isa. 53:3; Luke 23:18.
Antichrist Admired. Rev. 13:3,4.

Christ Exalted. Phil. 2:9.
Antichrist Cast Down to Hell. Isa. 14:14,15; Rev. 19:20.

Christ to do His Father's will. John 6:38.
Antichrist to do his Own will. Dan. 11:36.

Christ came to Save. Luke 19:10.
Antichrist comes to Destroy. Dan. 8:24.

Christ is the Good Shepherd. John 10:4-15.
Antichrist is the Idol (evil) Shepherd. Zech. 11:16,17.

Christ is the "True Vine." John 15:1.
Antichrist is the "Vine of the Earth." Rev. 14:18.

Christ is the "Truth." John 14:6.
Antichrist is the "Lie." 2 Thess. 2:11.

Christ is the "Holy One." Mark 1:24.
Antichrist is the "Lawless One." 2 Thess. 2:8, R.V.

Christ is the "Man of Sorrows." Isa. 53 :3.
Antichrist is the "Man of Sin." 2 Thess. 2:3.

Christ is the "Son of God." Luke 1:35.
Antichrist is the "Son of Perdition." 2 Thess. 2: 3.

Christ, "The Mystery of Godliness," is God manifest in the flesh. 1 Tim. 3:16.
Antichrist, "The Mystery of Iniquity,"' will be Satan manifest in the flesh. 2 Thess. 2:7.

I believe it is important when we read the word to LOOK for these contrasts, so we will not mistakenly switch the references given to us.

:D In Jesus... bonnie

 

[Vic C.]

OK...Take your ball and go home if you must.

:toofunny ;)

 

[sheshisown]

THE PRESENT EVIL AGE

Gal. 1:4

That this 'Age' is EVIL is seen in the character of its civilization. :yes After more than 2000 years of gospel preaching... the world is in a worse state, in proportion to its light, than it was in the days of Christ. This world seems surely headed toward some great crisis. The spirit of lawlessness is in our entertainment, in our courts, in academics it has a high ivory tower, it is pervasive in politics, and has destroyed the family unit as our Father established it to be.

Despite all the efforts of godly men and women to quench it~ it is becoming unmanageable and perverse and determined to break away from all authority and law. Soon it will do so.

How are we to account for this? Has our all Sovereign God lost His control over the world, or is He permitting some other agency to have its way?

The answer is that there are TWO OPPOSING SPIRITS at work in this present age, or dispensation...

The Holy Spirit who 'is engaged in gathering out those elected as the body of the Church, and the 'spirit of evil is gathering his own sons. :gah

We find these two spirits in 1 Cor. 2:12, the SPIRIT WHICH IS OF GOD and the SPIRIT OF THE WORLD; "Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God." :o


Also, in 1 John 4:5-6, the SPIRIT OF TRUTH and the SPIRIT OF ERROR. "They are of the world. Therefore they speak as of the world, and the world hears them. We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error."

The ‘Spirit of Error’ is the source of all the STRONG DELUSIONS that are in the world today, :crazy (2 Thess. 2:11 “And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,â€Â)
So as the ‘End of the Age’ draws near~ they are being rapidly multiplied. The warning to us is that it requires the greatest caution not to be caught in this net of lies and deceptions. As the Church is indwelt and guided by the ‘HOLY SPIRIT’ so the World outside the Church is indwelt and guided by the ‘SPIRIT OF THE WORLD’ (1 Cor. 2:12), or if you prefer the ‘UNHOLY’ SPIRIT.

We know that the Holy Spirit is a Person of the Triune God, so it is possible that the ‘SPIRIT OF THE WORLD’ is a person.
Eph. 2:1+2 gives us this confidence; “And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, in which you once walked ACCORDING TO THE COURSE OF THIS WORLD, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who NOW WORKS in the sons of disobedience…â€Â

From these verses we see that the ‘SPIRIT OF THE WORLD’ is SATAN. The world refused to accept the rule of God when it crucified His Son, and chose Barabbas instead of Christ, thus exalting Satan to the position of the “GOD OF THIS AGE,†(for Satan is not spoken of as the God of any other Age) than this. :yes
It was Satan’s ambition to be like God that caused his fall (Isa. 14:13-14 “For you have said in your heart: 'I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation On the farthest sides of the north…â€Â).

Satan has not as yet given up that ambition, and it is his purpose and plan to exalt himself in the person of antichrist, whom he will indwell, and sit in the ‘Temple of God,’ (the rebuilt Jewish Temple in Jerusalem), AS GOD, and have the people worship him as such. “Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. 2 Thess. 2:3-4 “So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?†Rev. 13:4

If as you assert that Jesus is the God of this age, then who is blinding the eyes of those who do not believe FOR THE PURPOSE OF KEEPING THEM FROM BEING SAVED? Certainly, you WILL NOT say that Jesus is doing this. “But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.†2 Cor. 4:3-4

The god of this age gentlemen, is satan. However, we will see him put under the feet of our Lord one day SOON enuf. :D

“But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming. Ten comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. FOR HE MUST REIGN UNTIL HE HAS PUT ALL HIS ENEMIES UNDER HIS FEET.†1 Cor 15:23-25

Blessedly owned by Christ… :nod bonnie

 

[Matthew24:34]

THE PRESENT EVIL AGE

Gal. 1:4

That this 'Age' is EVIL is seen in the character of its civilization. :yes After more than 2000 years of gospel preaching... the world is in a worse state, in proportion to its light, than it was in the days of Christ. This world seems surely headed toward some great crisis. The spirit of lawlessness is in our entertainment, in our courts, in academics it has a high ivory tower, it is pervasive in politics, and has destroyed the family unit as our Father established it to be.

Despite all the efforts of godly men and women to quench it~ it is becoming unmanageable and perverse and determined to break away from all authority and law. Soon it will do so.

How are we to account for this? Has our all Sovereign God lost His control over the world, or is He permitting some other agency to have its way?

The answer is that there are TWO OPPOSING SPIRITS at work in this present age, or dispensation...

The Holy Spirit who 'is engaged in gathering out those elected as the body of the Church, and the 'spirit of evil is gathering his own sons. :gah

We find these two spirits in 1 Cor. 2:12, the SPIRIT WHICH IS OF GOD and the SPIRIT OF THE WORLD; "Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God." :o


Also, in 1 John 4:5-6, the SPIRIT OF TRUTH and the SPIRIT OF ERROR. "They are of the world. Therefore they speak as of the world, and the world hears them. We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error."

The ‘Spirit of Error’ is the source of all the STRONG DELUSIONS that are in the world today, :crazy (2 Thess. 2:11 “And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,â€Â)
So as the ‘End of the Age’ draws near~ they are being rapidly multiplied. The warning to us is that it requires the greatest caution not to be caught in this net of lies and deceptions. As the Church is indwelt and guided by the ‘HOLY SPIRIT’ so the World outside the Church is indwelt and guided by the ‘SPIRIT OF THE WORLD’ (1 Cor. 2:12), or if you prefer the ‘UNHOLY’ SPIRIT.

We know that the Holy Spirit is a Person of the Triune God, so it is possible that the ‘SPIRIT OF THE WORLD’ is a person.
Eph. 2:1+2 gives us this confidence; “And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, in which you once walked ACCORDING TO THE COURSE OF THIS WORLD, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who NOW WORKS in the sons of disobedience…â€Â

From these verses we see that the ‘SPIRIT OF THE WORLD’ is SATAN. The world refused to accept the rule of God when it crucified His Son, and chose Barabbas instead of Christ, thus exalting Satan to the position of the “GOD OF THIS AGE,†(for Satan is not spoken of as the God of any other Age) than this. :yes
It was Satan’s ambition to be like God that caused his fall (Isa. 14:13-14 “For you have said in your heart: 'I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation On the farthest sides of the north…â€Â).

Satan has not as yet given up that ambition, and it is his purpose and plan to exalt himself in the person of antichrist, whom he will indwell, and sit in the ‘Temple of God,’ (the rebuilt Jewish Temple in Jerusalem), AS GOD, and have the people worship him as such. “Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. 2 Thess. 2:3-4 “So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?†Rev. 13:4

If as you assert that Jesus is the God of this age, then who is blinding the eyes of those who do not believe FOR THE PURPOSE OF KEEPING THEM FROM BEING SAVED? Certainly, you WILL NOT say that Jesus is doing this. “But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.†2 Cor. 4:3-4

The god of this age gentlemen, is satan. However, we will see him put under the feet of our Lord one day SOON enuf. :D

“But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming. Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. FOR HE MUST REIGN UNTIL HE HAS PUT ALL HIS ENEMIES UNDER HIS FEET.†1 Cor 15:23-25

Blessedly owned by Christ… :nod bonnie

Greetings, sheshisown: You are misunderstanding "this age." When Paul wrote concerning the "god of this age," he was referring to the age that THEY were then in--not the age we are in. The NT clearly teaches an age that then was and an age that was to come. When speaking of the sin against the Spirit, Jesus said that it would not be forgiven "either in THIS age or in the age ABOUT to come" (Mat. 12:32)! Those of that first-century world were living in the "this age." We are living in the age that was then ABOUT to come--the age that did come when that OT covenant age of Judaism was brought to a final END in A. D. 70!

What is the CONTEXT of 1 Corinthians 15? Paul included himself and those very Corinthians when he used the first person plural (WE). WE shall not all sleep. WE shall all be changed. THEY expected to be soon changed in the twinkling of an eye, and they were when Christ returned to THEM! Did Paul pray amiss "Come, Lord Jesus" (1 Cor. 16:22)? What is the CONTEXT of 2 Thessalonians 1 and 2? Paul is addressing directly those very flesh-and-blood Thessalonians. THEY were to personally experience rest from their enemies AT HIS APPEARING. The Lord was to punish those very ones who troubled THEM with the same trouble AT HIS APPEARING. Paul admonished those very Thessalonians to not be deceived. THEY knew the restrainer--the restrainer and the man of sin were contemporaneous! Furthermore, Paul teaches absolutely nothing about a rebuilt Temple. There are only two ways of understanding his words concerning the man of sin and the temple of God. He was either someone of that day who sat is that very Temple of THAT day or Paul is stating that someone of THAT day would presume to exalt himself above God by blasphemously pretending to have a position on the level of how God Himself sits in His Temple. Again, Paul taught nothing of a rebuilt temple.

Also, what is the entire CONTEXT of the Revelation? John was clearly and unambiguously shown the things which were in HIS day to SHORTLY take place--the time for their fulfillment was THEN near (Rev. 1:1, 3; 22:6, 10). We will never understand the Revelation unless and until we place it in its proper historical setting--the first-century A. D.

What did Paul clearly teach about Satan? Did he not plainly state to his brethren in Rome--"the God of peace will crush Satan under YOUR feet SHORTLY" (Rom. 16:20). Under whose feet? THEIR feet. When? SHORTLY (in that day)! If we take things out of their proper setting and out of their proper historical context, we will misunderstand the Scriptures!

Sincerely and in Christ, Matthew24:34