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You disgust me. http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/22457.html
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Excellent information, jwu. I was hoping that someone more knowledgeable on this topic would chime in. And don't worry about what johnmuise said (the "you disgust me" line). It's the final attack when standing in the presence of overwhelming data. Insults. :-?
Yeah, "drdino" is the king of psuedo-science. His stage presence has shown to fool even the very elect! :wink:
Yeah, "drdino" is the king of psuedo-science. His stage presence has shown to fool even the very elect! :wink:
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jwu said:
Sorry i got confused for a sec, i thought this was a Christian forum and the way you said " don't cite hovind" brought me to the old saying " the Christian firing squad is in a circle", or "Christians like to shoot there wounded" i see this all the time, its like a lot of Christians are embarrassed by people like Hovind....then i remembered that this is a debate forum and people here opposing creation are not Christians so we are supposed to be scoffed at. 8-)
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Hmm i don't have a Ph.D in everything or anything for that matter. overwhelming data is correct in some cases...only human...thats why i come to learn, but at the same time i love to defend my faith, sorry if i come off wrong.
i don't know all the answers but i sure know the one who does.
You didn't quite catch a good start, but you can't be blamed for that. Particularly Hovind can come across as very convincing. Most people who listened to his lectures and then visit messageboards to discuss what they heard there pack up and run away after their first few posts...so kudos to you for staying around!
That's because Hovind is more about rhetorics than about actual content. Creationism could be true, but Hovind then still would be wrong about most things that he talks about - simply because he is utterly clueless about science in general. E.g. he asserts that because of the "conservation of angular momentum", all objects in the universe should be spinning in the same direction if the Big Bang were true. That is utterly wrong. The conservation of angular momentum only says that the sum of all angular momentums in the universe always remains the same. An increase of angular momentum of one object can be counterbalanced by a decrease elsewhere, and it also can take negative values (spin in the other direction). Anyone who ever played a game of billard should know that things don't always spin in the same direction, yet Hovind seems not to understand this. Or, even worse, he does understand this and just doesn't care that he is spreading falsehoods.
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johnmuise said:Hello, i would just love to share my knowledge, i am in defense of creation, ask me any question and i will answer it to the best of my ability, i need the practice because in a bout 20 days i am doing a debate here and i need to have all this fresh in my head
Can you prove which God that you believe in......THOR, Osiris, Re, Minerva, Medusa, Seth, Aquinas, Zeus?
How do you know that ZEUS did not create anything? Is your ONLY evidence the Bible, Quran, or Torah?
Which God, so that we know if your claims are correct!
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You see my God clearly dismisses all other gods, you can clearly see the good in Christianity, the quran and torah and the vast majority all take content from my bible and alter it to fit what they want.
My Bible it correct read this http://www.bibletruths.org/salvation/wordgod.html
HOR, Osiris, Re, Minerva, Medusa, Seth, Aquinas, Zeus etc were all man made idols to replace the one true god.
Find me one time when Christians did a great evil. ? i can give you hundreds of examples on non Christian religions
example one source unknown.
his is why the christian race and the muslim race will never be able to work things out.
February 7th, 2008
“I observed the rules and tried not to stand out in business settings,†she said.
But on Monday, when the power failed in her company’s offices, Yara and her male colleagues decided to use a nearby Starbucks, which has wireless Internet, as a temporary workspace.
She settled into a booth with a male colleague and opened her laptop. Moments later, she was arrested.
“Some men came up to us with very long beards and white dresses. They asked, ‘Why are you here together?’ I explained about the power being out in our office. They got very angry and told me what I was doing was a great sin,†Yara recalled.
The men were from Saudi Arabia’s Commission for Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice, a 10,000-strong police force charged with enforcing dress codes, sex segregation and the observance of prayer times.
Yara said they grabbed her mobile phone and pushed her into a taxi bound for Riyadh’s main prison. There she was interrogated, strip-searched and forced to sign and fingerprint confessions of guilt.
Later, she was made to stand before a judge who condemned her behavior, telling her she would “burn in hell.â€Â
She said she spent hours in a filthy prison cell with dozens of other women who had been arrested by the religious police, before her husband used his political connections to secure her release.
yeah thats definitely the true gods works right there, *cough*
do some research before making these claims.
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