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Deciphering 666 in Advance.
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There is no such scriptures. People are being deceptive because they can not accept the truth. The truth is offencieve and the lies are pleasing.David505 said:
No such scripture. However still indecipherable prior to switching on the brain. The following one can stimulate to look at some related source documents of linages, heritages and modern day real world status, and also their personal perceived one of heirs and descendants of David (and others).
The Antichrist and a Cup of Tea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSBcnMBz ... re=related
after watching that one study Springmeyers 13.th illumi bloodline, their family relationship with most if not all of presidential candidates of America (at least half of them are cousins of cousins) and then the kicker "order of the Garter" as the club above all freemasonry of this very planet. Nice "coincidence". Not at all, or more precisely, i'm afraid not.
The Antichrist and a Cup of Tea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSBcnMBz ... re=related
after watching that one study Springmeyers 13.th illumi bloodline, their family relationship with most if not all of presidential candidates of America (at least half of them are cousins of cousins) and then the kicker "order of the Garter" as the club above all freemasonry of this very planet. Nice "coincidence". Not at all, or more precisely, i'm afraid not.
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David505 said:
Revelation 13:18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
The Bible clearly says that those with enough understanding can count the number of the beast. The phrasing is not "one with understanding shall count the number..", which would imply that in the future people will figure it out. It says "Let him that hath understanding.." All of this is a present tense statement. Meaning, if you have enough understanding, count it up.
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Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six.
The bible tells us already about this number and shows us in wonderful ways what it represents.
We are told that the " beast" is the spirit of the destroyer who is the angel of the bottomless pit. We are told that this angel of the bottomless pit will GO INTO PERDITION.
We are told that PERDITION, is what those who were released from sin through Jesus Christ but return to their sins go into is PERDITION. We are told this happens because of their own lusts. We are told that those people will FALL AWAY because they did not love the truth but they loved their lusts and that their god is their belly. We are told that these people are called the man of sin the SON OF PERDITION, and that JUDAS was the first one called this specific title.- we are likewise told that on the 6th day God made all the BEASTS OF THE FIELD and MAN. We are told that the carnal nature of man is emnity with God and cannot be held to the law of God, that is why we must be born again of incorruptable seed.-We are told that those who depart from us, Gods faithful people fall away- leave us so that it may be revealed- made manifest who they are who were not really of us and that these people are the antichrist, the son of perdition, the man of sin.
we are shown that 666 connects with money(or lusts of the flesh) and with christians DEPARTING from the Lord.
Jhn 6:66 From that [time] many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.
Hbr 10:39 But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.
romans is the 6th book of the NT
Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with [him], that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
The bible tells us already about this number and shows us in wonderful ways what it represents.
We are told that the " beast" is the spirit of the destroyer who is the angel of the bottomless pit. We are told that this angel of the bottomless pit will GO INTO PERDITION.
We are told that PERDITION, is what those who were released from sin through Jesus Christ but return to their sins go into is PERDITION. We are told this happens because of their own lusts. We are told that those people will FALL AWAY because they did not love the truth but they loved their lusts and that their god is their belly. We are told that these people are called the man of sin the SON OF PERDITION, and that JUDAS was the first one called this specific title.- we are likewise told that on the 6th day God made all the BEASTS OF THE FIELD and MAN. We are told that the carnal nature of man is emnity with God and cannot be held to the law of God, that is why we must be born again of incorruptable seed.-We are told that those who depart from us, Gods faithful people fall away- leave us so that it may be revealed- made manifest who they are who were not really of us and that these people are the antichrist, the son of perdition, the man of sin.
we are shown that 666 connects with money(or lusts of the flesh) and with christians DEPARTING from the Lord.
Jhn 6:66 From that [time] many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.
Hbr 10:39 But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.
romans is the 6th book of the NT
Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with [him], that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
I believe it is a metaphorical counting, not a literal counting. The Greek means to count using stones.
Isa 57:6-8
6 Among the smooth stones of the stream is thy portion; they, they are thy lot: even to them hast thou poured a drink offering, thou hast offered a meat offering. Should I receive comfort in these?
7 Upon a lofty and high mountain hast thou set thy bed: even thither wentest thou up to offer sacrifice.
8 Behind the doors also and the posts hast thou set up thy remembrance: for thou hast discovered thyself to another than me, and art gone up; thou hast enlarged thy bed, and made thee a covenant with them; thou lovedst their bed where thou sawest it.
(KJV)
The origin of the "mark of the beast" is the 'mark' God first put upon Cain in Genesis. It is not a literal mark, but a metaphorical mark involving traits. The ground was cursed to Cain, so he had to resort to other means to get food. With the mark he was given an advantage of cunning (Luke 16:8).
The whole idea is connected with our Lord's parable of the tares of the field (Matt.13). The idea of the "beast" as applied to a working of evil men, and is about the children of darkness and their ways.
2 Pet 2:12
12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
(KJV)
Jude 1:4
4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
(KJV)
The idea of counting the mark is to show identity of that false one of Rev.13 as the 'head' of all emnity against God's children. And when did the 'emnity' begin? In God's Garden of Eden per Genesis 3:15 concerning the two seeds. To count the number of his name is like counting with stones which are worn smooth over a long time, since the time the 'emnity' began. It's pointing directly to that "old serpent". And because of that, I think the 666 number is symbolic of when he comes to this earth to work his final work of deception.
Isa 57:6-8
6 Among the smooth stones of the stream is thy portion; they, they are thy lot: even to them hast thou poured a drink offering, thou hast offered a meat offering. Should I receive comfort in these?
7 Upon a lofty and high mountain hast thou set thy bed: even thither wentest thou up to offer sacrifice.
8 Behind the doors also and the posts hast thou set up thy remembrance: for thou hast discovered thyself to another than me, and art gone up; thou hast enlarged thy bed, and made thee a covenant with them; thou lovedst their bed where thou sawest it.
(KJV)
The origin of the "mark of the beast" is the 'mark' God first put upon Cain in Genesis. It is not a literal mark, but a metaphorical mark involving traits. The ground was cursed to Cain, so he had to resort to other means to get food. With the mark he was given an advantage of cunning (Luke 16:8).
The whole idea is connected with our Lord's parable of the tares of the field (Matt.13). The idea of the "beast" as applied to a working of evil men, and is about the children of darkness and their ways.
2 Pet 2:12
12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
(KJV)
Jude 1:4
4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
(KJV)
The idea of counting the mark is to show identity of that false one of Rev.13 as the 'head' of all emnity against God's children. And when did the 'emnity' begin? In God's Garden of Eden per Genesis 3:15 concerning the two seeds. To count the number of his name is like counting with stones which are worn smooth over a long time, since the time the 'emnity' began. It's pointing directly to that "old serpent". And because of that, I think the 666 number is symbolic of when he comes to this earth to work his final work of deception.
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if you go to prophecytalk.com to the end time discussion.
the post would you be micro chipped? on the first page there is a reply from trace
in the reply is a link to a PDF FILE and a totaly new revelation is presented concerning the mark of the beast.
from the oringinal greek manuscript, when it was being translated, it would appear they were unsure as to what john actualy recorded, its meaning in the end some put, 616 others 615 then 666
looking at what john wrote it looks and resembles more like the arabic phrase in the name of allah
than it does the numbers 6 6 6
number could have been mulitudes. so mulitutes in the name of allah,
its intresting and well worth a look.
johnny
the post would you be micro chipped? on the first page there is a reply from trace
in the reply is a link to a PDF FILE and a totaly new revelation is presented concerning the mark of the beast.
from the oringinal greek manuscript, when it was being translated, it would appear they were unsure as to what john actualy recorded, its meaning in the end some put, 616 others 615 then 666
looking at what john wrote it looks and resembles more like the arabic phrase in the name of allah
than it does the numbers 6 6 6
number could have been mulitudes. so mulitutes in the name of allah,
its intresting and well worth a look.
johnny
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In the Greek and Hebrew language letters were also used for numbers. A person can discover the name of that nation, and the persons name title; both addup to 666. Perhaps these days children are no longer taught about Roman numerals.David505 said:
That video quoted in my last post explains more or less the basics of who rules over the kings of the world already now through status and participation in the global "boys clubs" that everyone must belong, or cannot be in power. It doesn't make any difference of the place they're in, DC, Israel, Iran, EU, North Korea - it's all the same group that dominates and rules. With very few exceptions, John F. Kennedy was such an exception.
One thing isn't explained accurately in that video, and that is the riddle of Revelation 17:9-11.
What has nothing to do with security council seats or the the UN. He also does not mention who owns the Vatican. Someone does 'own' the Vatican? Yes, it's documented, although as hard to find as the ownership of the Fed. Dig a while, easier to understand history then in both cases.
Someone that is into mind twisters and knows every explanation there is to the resolution of "he is the eighth, and is of the seven" might like this one: Only one got it right as of my understanding, but it takes a day to look at all the others too. What it really has to do with is the documented line of Emperors of the "Holy Roman Empire". See source links included.
That's one major piece of the puzzle. The combination of things then make the case so tight it's impossible to reproduce for another person or non-person. Even the challenge to find a similar case that fits in more than one language twice in history could take the rest of a scholars lifetime. I'm sure an automated computer program working non-stop would come up with other hits, but would they have all the other indentifying features? Not even remotely likely if you would follow a disciplined investigation. And the emphasis has to be on 'disciplined' - the only way to flush false positives that sound right, but cannot be.
The guy in the video explained the process to 'decrypt' the number of a man that amounts to 666 using the only historical valid system used originally. And should be used now to stay within context. Verified it then in both Hebrew and English. Then makes a case of the law of compound probability in mathematics. Which make it a result so rare that to have another one with same outcome, even just by theoretical probability is close to impossible.
But that wasn't the last status we know of. It indeed got multiplied again. Someone added a third language (Greek) that verifies to the same result, using the same system. That's something that has not been done at any time with any of the possible candidates. Sure hope someone takes up the challenge to prove otherwise. Any entity or 'whatever multi word term' in 3 languages that result to 666. Lets see prove.
Also if you can, pay attention to this on the following pages that starts with "JUDAH begat Phares". It's about the man that initiated a lot of current phenomena like the "peace talks" between Israel and the Palist.ians and the "global warming agenda". All comes out of his office, mr. big shaper of history even in peace times. The source document is historical and is what is behind all these deception movies out of hollywood that have anything to to with "their christ" that had a imagined relationship with Mary Magdalene, Its all occult propaganda in preparation for the upcoming case of "proving it" to the lawyers. Which should'nt be a problem after "otherwise smart" people buying into Barry the Kenyan. For these we have to start once again from the beginning, like "what is logic" i.e. "if A is different from B then A and B are not identical"....etc.
http://www.jimsearcy.com/chart.html
http://www.jimsearcy.com/anti.html
Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. He shall have them in derision. Amen.
One thing isn't explained accurately in that video, and that is the riddle of Revelation 17:9-11.
What has nothing to do with security council seats or the the UN. He also does not mention who owns the Vatican. Someone does 'own' the Vatican? Yes, it's documented, although as hard to find as the ownership of the Fed. Dig a while, easier to understand history then in both cases.
Someone that is into mind twisters and knows every explanation there is to the resolution of "he is the eighth, and is of the seven" might like this one: Only one got it right as of my understanding, but it takes a day to look at all the others too. What it really has to do with is the documented line of Emperors of the "Holy Roman Empire". See source links included.
That's one major piece of the puzzle. The combination of things then make the case so tight it's impossible to reproduce for another person or non-person. Even the challenge to find a similar case that fits in more than one language twice in history could take the rest of a scholars lifetime. I'm sure an automated computer program working non-stop would come up with other hits, but would they have all the other indentifying features? Not even remotely likely if you would follow a disciplined investigation. And the emphasis has to be on 'disciplined' - the only way to flush false positives that sound right, but cannot be.
The guy in the video explained the process to 'decrypt' the number of a man that amounts to 666 using the only historical valid system used originally. And should be used now to stay within context. Verified it then in both Hebrew and English. Then makes a case of the law of compound probability in mathematics. Which make it a result so rare that to have another one with same outcome, even just by theoretical probability is close to impossible.
But that wasn't the last status we know of. It indeed got multiplied again. Someone added a third language (Greek) that verifies to the same result, using the same system. That's something that has not been done at any time with any of the possible candidates. Sure hope someone takes up the challenge to prove otherwise. Any entity or 'whatever multi word term' in 3 languages that result to 666. Lets see prove.
Also if you can, pay attention to this on the following pages that starts with "JUDAH begat Phares". It's about the man that initiated a lot of current phenomena like the "peace talks" between Israel and the Palist.ians and the "global warming agenda". All comes out of his office, mr. big shaper of history even in peace times. The source document is historical and is what is behind all these deception movies out of hollywood that have anything to to with "their christ" that had a imagined relationship with Mary Magdalene, Its all occult propaganda in preparation for the upcoming case of "proving it" to the lawyers. Which should'nt be a problem after "otherwise smart" people buying into Barry the Kenyan. For these we have to start once again from the beginning, like "what is logic" i.e. "if A is different from B then A and B are not identical"....etc.
http://www.jimsearcy.com/chart.html
http://www.jimsearcy.com/anti.html
Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. He shall have them in derision. Amen.
mdo757 said:
That's called Gematria, where a number value is assigned to each letter of the Hebrew alphabet, so the letters of a word add up to a total number. Certain branches of Jewish mysticism of the Kabbalah use that to try and pentrate God's secrets, not a positive thing to do. That's also how the 'Bible Codes' reasoning came about, the original authors simply chose not to mention its origin from the Kabblah of Jewish occult mysticism. Uh, that's old Mystery Babylon working, since that Kabbalah mystic system most likely originated from Babylon during Judah's 70 years captivity; it's a corruption that crept into Judah's stay long ago, and was an oral tradition among the Jewish priests until around 7th century Spain, when some of it was put down in writings.
So I'm certain the devil would love for us to use such a system as Kabbalistic Gematria to determine the 666 of Rev.13, which is sure to produce even more confusion away from God's Truth about it. That's nothing but Numerology in disguise, a working of the occult mystics among the Jews.
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You do not know the difference between numerology and math. Study "Roman Numerals."veteran said:
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actually the roman numerals on the back of the dollar bill at the bottom of the pyramid is roman numerals for 666.
As far as Germatria there is the conventional and the Pagan, such as birth numbers and the Key of Death and Hell. http://www.flickr.com/photos/sacred_geometry/4401685761/ This is established by taking all the numbers given and adding to one number. Say what you want but I know for a fact that the basic number system is the mark of the beast. And if you think I'm wrong take everything you know about all those who wear it and prove to me that you can live without using numbers.
As far as Germatria there is the conventional and the Pagan, such as birth numbers and the Key of Death and Hell. http://www.flickr.com/photos/sacred_geometry/4401685761/ This is established by taking all the numbers given and adding to one number. Say what you want but I know for a fact that the basic number system is the mark of the beast. And if you think I'm wrong take everything you know about all those who wear it and prove to me that you can live without using numbers.
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Shilohsfoal
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If im not mistaken,the seven heads of the beast are seven mountains.Its a location.
I suggest you find the center of Jerusalem and you will find the beast.
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I suggest you find the center of Jerusalem and you will find the beast.
666Shilohsfoal
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Didnt look like anyone would bother looking so here.
LATITUDE & LONGITUDE
Latitude is shown as a horizontal line and is the angular distance, in degrees, minutes, and seconds of a point north or south of the Equator. Lines of latitude are often referred to as parallels.
Longitude is shown as a vertical line and is the angular distance, in degrees, minutes, and seconds, of a point east or west of the Prime (Greenwich) Meridian. Lines of longitude are often referred to as meridians.
Distance between Lines If you divide the circumference of the earth (approximately 25,000 miles) by 360 degrees, the distance on the earth's surface for each one degree of latitude or longitude is just over 69 miles, or 111 km.
Minutes and Seconds For precision purposes, degrees of longitude and latitude have been divided into minutes (') and seconds ("). There are 60 minutes in each degree. Each minute is divided into 60 seconds. Seconds can be further divided into tenths, hundredths, or even thousandths.
The exact center of the city of Jerusalem (Yerushalayim) is 31° 47' 00 N by 35° 13' 00 E. If we add the numbers we get:
31° 47' 00 N
+35° 13' 00 E
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6 6 6 . 00
Ive been saying the beast is already here but few seem to believe it.
LATITUDE & LONGITUDE
Latitude is shown as a horizontal line and is the angular distance, in degrees, minutes, and seconds of a point north or south of the Equator. Lines of latitude are often referred to as parallels.
Longitude is shown as a vertical line and is the angular distance, in degrees, minutes, and seconds, of a point east or west of the Prime (Greenwich) Meridian. Lines of longitude are often referred to as meridians.
Distance between Lines If you divide the circumference of the earth (approximately 25,000 miles) by 360 degrees, the distance on the earth's surface for each one degree of latitude or longitude is just over 69 miles, or 111 km.
Minutes and Seconds For precision purposes, degrees of longitude and latitude have been divided into minutes (') and seconds ("). There are 60 minutes in each degree. Each minute is divided into 60 seconds. Seconds can be further divided into tenths, hundredths, or even thousandths.
The exact center of the city of Jerusalem (Yerushalayim) is 31° 47' 00 N by 35° 13' 00 E. If we add the numbers we get:
31° 47' 00 N
+35° 13' 00 E
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6 6 6 . 00
Ive been saying the beast is already here but few seem to believe it.
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Has anyone on here considerd the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy?
When Jesus spoke to the leaders of the jewish people some 2000 years ago,are you sure who he was speaking about?
The term "Knesset" is derived from the ancient Great Assembly or Great Synagogue (Hebrew: ???????? ????????????) which according to Jewish tradition was an assembly of 120 scribes, sages, and prophets, in the period from the end of the Biblical prophets to the time of the development of Rabbinic Judaism - about two centuries ending c. 70 CE. There is, however, no organizational continuity and - aside from the number of members - little similarity, as the ancient Knesset was an essentially religious, completely unelected body
When Jesus spoke to the leaders of the jewish people some 2000 years ago,are you sure who he was speaking about?
The term "Knesset" is derived from the ancient Great Assembly or Great Synagogue (Hebrew: ???????? ????????????) which according to Jewish tradition was an assembly of 120 scribes, sages, and prophets, in the period from the end of the Biblical prophets to the time of the development of Rabbinic Judaism - about two centuries ending c. 70 CE. There is, however, no organizational continuity and - aside from the number of members - little similarity, as the ancient Knesset was an essentially religious, completely unelected body