Not Trinity.
It’s not in the Bible.
Godhead would.
JLB
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Jesus used the word endure synonymously with the word believe as far as context goes.
But the ones on the rock are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, who believe for a while and in time of temptation fall away. Luke 8:13
But he who received the seed on stony places, this is he who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy; yet he has no root in himself, but endures only for a while. For when tribulation or persecution arises because of the word, immediately he stumbles.
Matthew 13:20-21
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I think the above need one clarifying comment:
(which we all deal with a lot of these forums)
Does a person become separated from God when THEY SIN (one sin, which we probably do every day)
or
Does a person become separated from God when they return to a LIFE OF SIN and thus REALLY walk again in the flesh.
My reply would be the second...
and you?
I just read post no. 54 and I'll have to agree with it.Great question!
Personally, I would tend to agree with you, based on some clarification and additional scriptural support.
However, I would like to address your question head on and at face value, by referring to the words of the Lord Jesus Christ, in context with this subject of His sheep becoming lost, or separated from Him.
“What do you think? If a man has a hundred sheep, and one of them goes astray, does he not leave the ninety-nine and go to the mountains to seek the one that is straying? And if he should find it, assuredly, I say to you, he rejoices more over that sheep than over the ninety-nine that did not go astray. Even so it is not the will of your Father who is in heaven that one of these little ones should perish. “Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’ And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.
Matthew 18:12-17
- if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother.
It’s interesting to note it wasn’t Jesus Himself going after the wayward brother.
This is actually a more detailed explanation of someone going after one of His sheep who needs to repent and return to the Lord, from the parable of the lost sheep that Luke also records.
We don’t know what specific “fault” or sin the brother in this story did, and it really doesn’t matter.
- Remember our perspective of sin may be entirely different that the Lord’s perspective.
It only took one sin to cause all of mankind to fall and become corrupt.
Adam’s sin wasn’t even murder or sexual immorality.
Don’t eat the fruit of the tree...
So, based on the teaching from Christ, one sin or fault perpetrated against another brother is enough, IF he doesn’t repent.
JLB
First, I am NOT saying we have a licence to sin. When we become aware of our sin, we must repent. This is not in question.
What is in question is sin itself and we see this in Pauls writing to the Corinthians in the matter of eating meat or holding one day higher than another. Paul goes as far as to say that if one man holds eating meat offered to idols as a sin, then to that man it is sin. However, it is only a sin in that mans eyes, not Gods so he has no right to bind that sin upon another.
I just read post no. 54 and I'll have to agree with it.
I understand.Of course not.
Hopefully you understand I’m not discussing my opinion, or the “way I see it”, which I hope I made clear by my opening statement.
I’m only answering a direct question, and discussing the words and teaching of Christ.
I’m not discussing things that “are not” sin, but things which are sin, as Jesus plainly says... if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone.
So we know for sure Jesus is referring to a sin, one brother perpetrated against another brother.
It could have been adultery
It could have been a theft
It could have been lie a brother told as a false witness
We don’t know, and like I said, it doesn’t matter.
Jesus is teaching about a brother who sinned against another brother, in which He said to go after the brother and convince him to repent.
If he doesn’t, then go and get one or two more.
If he still won’t hear then go and get the Church, maybe some elders, are try to convince this brother to repent and be restored.
If not, then he is to be as a heathen and a tax collector, which means a sinner; a person who is separated from Christ.
Jesus did not say he fell back into a lifestyle of sin, and after awhile needed to be counseled.
- if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone.
This is me, using scripture, to answer a straight forward question, with a straightforward answer from the Lord Jesus Christ.
Push back all you want to brother, it won’t change His words.
JLB
Paul uses this same principal when writing to Timothy. Saul was zealous for the Lord and persecuted Christ believing he was doing Gods will. He repented when the truth was revealed to him.... And the rest is history.I believe there is willful sin that blatantly defies the commands of God like Adam did and written about in Hebrews 10:26, 27 and then there are sins that others say is sin, but yet not sin in the eyes of God like StoveBolts pointed out in #54.