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Denominational-ism: Promoting a spirit of Contention?

SHINY4UJESUS

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Matthew 15:1-14 (NIV)
15 "Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked, 2 “Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don’t wash their hands before they eat!” 3 Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? 4 For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother’[a] and ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’ 5 But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is ‘devoted to God,’ 6 they are not to ‘honor their father or mother’ with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7 You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you: 8 “‘These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me. 9 They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules.’[c]”
Mark 7:8-13(NIV)
8 "You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.” 9 And he continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe[a] your own traditions! 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and mother,’ and, ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’[c] 11 But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is Corban (that is, devoted to God)— 12 then you no longer let them do anything for their father or mother. 13 Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that.”

FIRST OFF: Folks, this is not an attack on any denomination; and neither is it an accusation pointed at any one individual or church body. This is an illustration to be used IN CONTEXT in order to illustrate a principle we do well to consider. I would clarify that while I do not agree with the walls of separation denominational-ism creates, rather than promoting Body-wide unity; I am not posting this to demean or belittle those given to a denominational preference. Truly we are a Body of many members, and one member cannot say to the other, "I have no need of you." What is more critical here is what has been allowed to transpire in light of this.

SECOND: The primary area of concern here is the tendency of believers to adamantly and aggressively present a denominationally biased and preferred legalism or tradition as the Word or Will of God. Just because a thing is your preferred interpretation and tradition does not automatically quantify it as the Word and will of God. In order for that to be the case, it must be first clearly stated, then clearly confirmed in the Word; as well as reflected by Christ Himself. Jesus spent significant time personally combating the tendency of spiritual leaders to present man-made traditions over the actual Word of God. He actively confronted the legalisms and ritualistic focuses of these leaders; weighing their own processes and policies as heavier than both God's Word and reflecting grace, love, peace and mercy. If you are one who prefers one denomination's tradition or process over another; that's fine-just don't present it as though it is God's Word when it is man's tradition. Folks have a right to believe as they wish, to disagree as they like; we have no right to take our preferred traditions, formats, and methods; then using God's name to force others to agree or "deny God." If we do these things we are accepting the mold of the Pharisees Christ rebuked.
2 Timothy 2:16-17(NIV)
16 "Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly. 17 Their teaching will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus,"
2 Timothy 2:23-26 (NIV)
"23 Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. 24 And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. 25 Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, 26 and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will."

THIRD: Folks it is one thing to stand ground for what one believes; it is another thing entirely to promote and contribute to a spirit of disunity, strife, discord and contention. All too often we see folks from different denominations arguing til both are blue in the face; and about what? About man-made traditions, methods, processes, and perspectives. These things are of little benefit; rarely is one swayed to the other perspective..and quite often it becomes a bitter, angry, two-way tongue lashing with no edification...only mutual hatred and dissension. State your case, let the other state theirs and move forward; otherwise we promote a spirit of contention and disunity.

Romans 14:17-19(NIV)
"17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18 because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and receives human approval. 19 Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification."

FINALLY: Folks we do well here to revisit Romans 14&15 and the entire second half of 1 Corinthians. Believers will always have difference in opinions and practices; and we are repeatedly told to defer in order to avoid causing offense and placing obstacles in others' paths. If we are not actively combating the demonic tools of contention, disunity, and discord; then we are actively promoting them. In these matters it is not the process, but the intention and direction of the heart that is critical. Let us move forward into a season of grace, peace and unity in spite of differences; so we may be sure to edify rather than perpetuate a divided and fragmented Body of Christ. Thank you and God Bless!
 
Matthew 15:1-14 (NIV)
15 "Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked, 2 “Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don’t wash their hands before they eat!” 3 Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? 4 For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother’[a] and ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’ 5 But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is ‘devoted to God,’ 6 they are not to ‘honor their father or mother’ with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7 You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you: 8 “‘These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me. 9 They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules.’[c]”
Mark 7:8-13(NIV)
8 "You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.” 9 And he continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe[a] your own traditions! 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and mother,’ and, ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’[c] 11 But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is Corban (that is, devoted to God)— 12 then you no longer let them do anything for their father or mother. 13 Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that.”

FIRST OFF: Folks, this is not an attack on any denomination; and neither is it an accusation pointed at any one individual or church body. This is an illustration to be used IN CONTEXT in order to illustrate a principle we do well to consider. I would clarify that while I do not agree with the walls of separation denominational-ism creates, rather than promoting Body-wide unity; I am not posting this to demean or belittle those given to a denominational preference. Truly we are a Body of many members, and one member cannot say to the other, "I have no need of you." What is more critical here is what has been allowed to transpire in light of this.

SECOND: The primary area of concern here is the tendency of believers to adamantly and aggressively present a denominationally biased and preferred legalism or tradition as the Word or Will of God. Just because a thing is your preferred interpretation and tradition does not automatically quantify it as the Word and will of God. In order for that to be the case, it must be first clearly stated, then clearly confirmed in the Word; as well as reflected by Christ Himself. Jesus spent significant time personally combating the tendency of spiritual leaders to present man-made traditions over the actual Word of God. He actively confronted the legalisms and ritualistic focuses of these leaders; weighing their own processes and policies as heavier than both God's Word and reflecting grace, love, peace and mercy. If you are one who prefers one denomination's tradition or process over another; that's fine-just don't present it as though it is God's Word when it is man's tradition. Folks have a right to believe as they wish, to disagree as they like; we have no right to take our preferred traditions, formats, and methods; then using God's name to force others to agree or "deny God." If we do these things we are accepting the mold of the Pharisees Christ rebuked.
2 Timothy 2:16-17(NIV)
16 "Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly. 17 Their teaching will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus,"
2 Timothy 2:23-26 (NIV)
"23 Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. 24 And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. 25 Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, 26 and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will."

THIRD: Folks it is one thing to stand ground for what one believes; it is another thing entirely to promote and contribute to a spirit of disunity, strife, discord and contention. All too often we see folks from different denominations arguing til both are blue in the face; and about what? About man-made traditions, methods, processes, and perspectives. These things are of little benefit; rarely is one swayed to the other perspective..and quite often it becomes a bitter, angry, two-way tongue lashing with no edification...only mutual hatred and dissension. State your case, let the other state theirs and move forward; otherwise we promote a spirit of contention and disunity.

Romans 14:17-19(NIV)
"17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18 because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and receives human approval. 19 Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification."

FINALLY: Folks we do well here to revisit Romans 14&15 and the entire second half of 1 Corinthians. Believers will always have difference in opinions and practices; and we are repeatedly told to defer in order to avoid causing offense and placing obstacles in others' paths. If we are not actively combating the demonic tools of contention, disunity, and discord; then we are actively promoting them. In these matters it is not the process, but the intention and direction of the heart that is critical. Let us move forward into a season of grace, peace and unity in spite of differences; so we may be sure to edify rather than perpetuate a divided and fragmented Body of Christ. Thank you and God Bless!

It seems to me that this OP of yours will also cause division. While its purpose is to oppose denominational division, it creates a non-denominational division.
 
I suppose that there can be some level of truth to that statement, but perhaps we simply have a differing perspective on such things. The last thing I wish to do is perpetuate discord; but it would seem more prudent to offer insight and correction to a prevalent issue contributing to it than simply promoting and perpetuating the trend that has thus far become a cancer to unity within the Body. Yet I do appreciate your feedback and will definitely keep it in mind on any possible future posts of this nature.
 
Matthew 15:1-14 (NIV)
15 "Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked, 2 “Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don’t wash their hands before they eat!” 3 Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? 4 For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother’[a] and ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’ 5 But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is ‘devoted to God,’ 6 they are not to ‘honor their father or mother’ with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7 You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you: 8 “‘These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me. 9 They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules.’[c]”
Mark 7:8-13(NIV)
8 "You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.” 9 And he continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe[a] your own traditions! 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and mother,’ and, ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’[c] 11 But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is Corban (that is, devoted to God)— 12 then you no longer let them do anything for their father or mother. 13 Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that.”

FIRST OFF: Folks, this is not an attack on any denomination; and neither is it an accusation pointed at any one individual or church body. This is an illustration to be used IN CONTEXT in order to illustrate a principle we do well to consider. I would clarify that while I do not agree with the walls of separation denominational-ism creates, rather than promoting Body-wide unity; I am not posting this to demean or belittle those given to a denominational preference. Truly we are a Body of many members, and one member cannot say to the other, "I have no need of you." What is more critical here is what has been allowed to transpire in light of this.

SECOND: The primary area of concern here is the tendency of believers to adamantly and aggressively present a denominationally biased and preferred legalism or tradition as the Word or Will of God. Just because a thing is your preferred interpretation and tradition does not automatically quantify it as the Word and will of God. In order for that to be the case, it must be first clearly stated, then clearly confirmed in the Word; as well as reflected by Christ Himself. Jesus spent significant time personally combating the tendency of spiritual leaders to present man-made traditions over the actual Word of God. He actively confronted the legalisms and ritualistic focuses of these leaders; weighing their own processes and policies as heavier than both God's Word and reflecting grace, love, peace and mercy. If you are one who prefers one denomination's tradition or process over another; that's fine-just don't present it as though it is God's Word when it is man's tradition. Folks have a right to believe as they wish, to disagree as they like; we have no right to take our preferred traditions, formats, and methods; then using God's name to force others to agree or "deny God." If we do these things we are accepting the mold of the Pharisees Christ rebuked.
2 Timothy 2:16-17(NIV)
16 "Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly. 17 Their teaching will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus,"
2 Timothy 2:23-26 (NIV)
"23 Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. 24 And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. 25 Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, 26 and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will."

THIRD: Folks it is one thing to stand ground for what one believes; it is another thing entirely to promote and contribute to a spirit of disunity, strife, discord and contention. All too often we see folks from different denominations arguing til both are blue in the face; and about what? About man-made traditions, methods, processes, and perspectives. These things are of little benefit; rarely is one swayed to the other perspective..and quite often it becomes a bitter, angry, two-way tongue lashing with no edification...only mutual hatred and dissension. State your case, let the other state theirs and move forward; otherwise we promote a spirit of contention and disunity.

Romans 14:17-19(NIV)
"17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18 because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and receives human approval. 19 Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification."

FINALLY: Folks we do well here to revisit Romans 14&15 and the entire second half of 1 Corinthians. Believers will always have difference in opinions and practices; and we are repeatedly told to defer in order to avoid causing offense and placing obstacles in others' paths. If we are not actively combating the demonic tools of contention, disunity, and discord; then we are actively promoting them. In these matters it is not the process, but the intention and direction of the heart that is critical. Let us move forward into a season of grace, peace and unity in spite of differences; so we may be sure to edify rather than perpetuate a divided and fragmented Body of Christ. Thank you and God Bless!
Are you making a statement or asking a question? I am unclear as to what your point is.
 
I apologize FREE, I suppose I am presenting a position and perspective; implying a request for feedback. Denominationl-ism is a very well established institution within the confines of Christianity; so it seems prudent to broach the subject from a purely scriptural vantage. This is in order to bring light to the way our enemy uses this "wall of separation," to plant seeds of disunity and contention rather than promote One unified Body in Christ.
 
I suppose that there can be some level of truth to that statement, but perhaps we simply have a differing perspective on such things. The last thing I wish to do is perpetuate discord; but it would seem more prudent to offer insight and correction to a prevalent issue contributing to it than simply promoting and perpetuating the trend that has thus far become a cancer to unity within the Body. Yet I do appreciate your feedback and will definitely keep it in mind on any possible future posts of this nature.

Shiny, you and I are 2 different people in the body of Christ and you say that 'perhaps we simply have a differing perspective on such things'. As long as there are 2 different people in a group there will be the potential for different perspectives. That's the way it is.

Until we have a perfect environment in heaven, I can't see the day on earth when we will get away from the limits of denominationalism or non-denominationalism. You and I may not like certain aspects of a certain denomination, but we can run into the same kind of resistance in one congregation that is not in a denomination.

While we are on earth, why don't we settle for the fact that there will be differences. Here is an example I'm currently dealing with. The pastor of the church I attend preached on Joshua 24 about 3 weeks ago. When he got to Joshua 24:15, he stated, ‘“Choose this day” is a choice between false gods…. It is not a case of coming to the best God’.

I have a profound disagreement with that interpretation as it does not line up with Joshua 24:22, where it states in the ESV, 'You have chosen the Lord'. I shared it with him - rather forcefully - but he is steadfast unmovable because of his presuppositional commitment to TULIP Calvinism. I'm currently writing a response in an article for my homepage, Truth Challenge.

So wherever 2 believers disagree, there is the potential for a faction within a church. We don't need a denomination for that to happen.

Oz
 
Paul prophesied what was going to happen quite long ago. We just didn't pay attentions. But it DID happen already:

Acts 20:
25 And now, behold, I know that ye all, among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God, shall see my face no more.
26 Wherefore I take you to record this day, that I am pure from the blood of all men.
27 For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God.
28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.
32 And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified.
33 I have coveted no man's silver, or gold, or apparel.
34 Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me.
35 I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.
36 And when he had thus spoken, he kneeled down, and prayed with them all.

Denominationalism started before Paul even left the earth in death. Paul shows us this in 1 Cor. 1, right off the bat. Factions. Infighting. Strifes. Various disputes ALL broke out, immediately.

1 Cor. 1:

12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.

We'd have to be blind NOT to see it in the N.T.


And this is really what we have wound up with today, beyond any question. Institutionalized SEPARATIONS.

I consider all of it to be just a bloody mess. Could we ever just love one another? The only simple command that Jesus left us with, we have turned into institutional official potential eternal damnation of each others at any and every opportunity. That is the bloody flashcard that every denomination requires to be flashed to the others denomination. We claim there is unity, but it doesn't take long to dig up the "reasons" to brand other believers as "heretics." That's usually found in the fine print, somewhere, sooner or later with every denomination.

The very OPPOSITE direction we were to go.
 
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