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Did All The Prophets Die?

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Where are the modern day prophets? Where are the prophets from the last 20 or so centuries? Did God stop giving many prophets? The Tanakh is full of prophets and their prophecies. The Jews seemed to have had so many prophets, and they to seem to have dried up in the prophet creating business...

The New Testament had prophets as well, and the Christian prophets seem to have dried up and stopped coming also. Do we have any modern-day prophets? Do we have any prophets who have lived in the last few hundred years? A thousand?

:help
 
Pard said:
Where are the modern day prophets? Where are the prophets from the last 20 or so centuries? Did God stop giving many prophets? The Tanakh is full of prophets and their prophecies. The Jews seemed to have had so many prophets, and they to seem to have dried up in the prophet creating business...

The New Testament had prophets as well, and the Christian prophets seem to have dried up and stopped coming also. Do we have any modern-day prophets? Do we have any prophets who have lived in the last few hundred years? A thousand?

:help
some say wigglesworth and well look at what c.s.lewis wrote in the abolition of man. that is coming to pass
 
First, let's distinguish between the OT concept of prophecy and the NT. In the OT prophets who were verified by the Hebrew community as being a spokesman for God, through the performance of miracles and the ability to predict the future (Deuteronomy 13:1-3; 18:15-22; 31:9), made writings which were placed in the temple and which became Scripture, setting out God's plan for redemption in history. Romans 3:2 indicates this kind of prophet must be Jewish: (a NT apostle is the equivalent of a prophet, but with a mission going beyond the Jewish community). In the NT, I Corinthians 14:5 notes that tongues with interpretation is the equivalent of prophecy, but 14:3 notes that these gifts of the Spirit are for personal edification, exhortation, and comfort – that is, they are not at the level of Scripture, but they provide personal guidance. The gifts of the Spirit in Corinthians are received by all Christians, not just those with a Jewish birthright.

Some people hold that Hebrews 1:1 indicates that the canon of Scripture is closed, in which case there would no longer be a necessity for a prophet under the conditions as established by the OT. Some Christians hold that the gift of tongues have ceased, and there are no more prophecies for personal guidance according to the Corinthian verses on prophecy. However, if there is in the future a Jew who professes Christ, and who can predict the future and perform miracles, and who has a message from God to add to redemption history, while being consistent with everything already in Scripture, then it would have to be held that the canon is not closed, and that OT style prophecy has returned. Some believe the anti-Christ will try to imitate being such a prophet to create a new religion. Some people hold that the two witnesses of the book of Revelation, chp. 11, are Elijah and Moses returning, and these men are prophets, and if they speak in the future, it will be as God's spokesmen. For now, it appears that since the book of Revelation, God has not had anything to add to the message of Scripture, that he feels is necessary for us to know. Still, for people who do not believe tongues have ceased, there are the gifts of tongues and interpretation for personal guidance, but these messages are to be tested, I Thessalonians 5:19-21.

Wigglesworth never upheld himself as a prophet in the OT sense, but he did uphold the gifts of tongues and interpretation for personal guidance as having not ceased.

PS -- of course, after I typed this post and turned off my computer, it came to me that not just tongues with interpretation is prophecy in the NT sense, but also direct prophecy, I Corinthians 12:10. I have gotten prophecies in the NT personal guidance sense, without tongues and interpretation. But I always type these forum posts fast, in between doing other things.... and I end up skipping things.
 
Pard said:
Where are the modern day prophets? Where are the prophets from the last 20 or so centuries? Did God stop giving many prophets? The Tanakh is full of prophets and their prophecies. The Jews seemed to have had so many prophets, and they to seem to have dried up in the prophet creating business...

The New Testament had prophets as well, and the Christian prophets seem to have dried up and stopped coming also. Do we have any modern-day prophets? Do we have any prophets who have lived in the last few hundred years? A thousand?

:help

MY COMMENTS: By "prophet" I assume you mean one who "speaks for God", and may or may not predict some future event or events. From Young's concordance, The Greek word for "prophet" is "prophetes", meaning "public expounder."

In my opinion, the prophets chosen by the Spirit in the times of the early church, was before the Scriptures, the Word of God was completed. Certainly, those churches needed words of wisdom and praise, and received it as a prophet was directed by the Spirit.
But, as the letters of Paul and the others were circulated, the doctrines and rules for righteous living could be read.

Personally, I do not see the need for a "prophet" when we have the complete Word.

Certainly, any pastor who expounds the Scripture is, in a sense, "forth telling the Words of God."

I have heard of some who call themselves "a prophet", and claim they have that special gift "from the Holy Spirit." Some call it a special "annointing."

Whatever their special message is, if it does not conform to the Scriptures, and primarily to Paul's teaching, then, to me they are false and misleading.

God bless
 
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