Did God make other men on earth before he created Adam?

[Corinth77777]

I turned on my TV and it was Arnold Murray who my daughter did quick research after He mistakenly said Moses instead of Noah in the segment of the show where people asked questions and answers; only to find what their church believed and that He passed away.

Well I'd brought her and her spouse in on this to see if she could help me understand something else, so I recorded it for them to see later. Before I knew it another perplexing question came up. Anyway later I googled His name and found His teaching on the subject. I still am slow at trying to understand when he explains the language part.

Now when I read Genesis back when I remembered that it seemed like the author was giving an overview first, and then explains the detail in another paragraph.

But what is your take on his teaching . Do you agree with Him? And if so why, and if not why?

Ornald Murray and God made men before adam and eve - Google Search

 

[hawkman]

Link for you .

Who is Arnold Murray?

From link .

"Mr. Murray, or Pastor Murray, as his followers call him, taught a brand of theology that has many problems. Mr. Murray denied the doctrine of the Trinity, as well as the existence of hell and the rapture. He stated that Eve had sexual relations with the devil and that this union produced Cain."

 

[CherubRam]

Genesis 6:4
The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the (sons of God / gods of The Living One.) went to the daughters of humans (sons of Adam) and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.

Nephilim means: "Fallen ones."
It means that the person is of a very low moral grade.

The sons of Adam were the elohiym (gods of "The Living One.")

Our bibles are not correctly translated in order to promote other ideologies.

 

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Link for you .

Who is Arnold Murray?

From link .

"Mr. Murray, or Pastor Murray, as his followers call him, taught a brand of theology that has many problems. Mr. Murray denied the doctrine of the Trinity, as well as the existence of hell and the rapture. He stated that Eve had sexual relations with the devil and that this union produced Cain."

Denying the Trinity and the existence of hell, and teaching Serpent Seed doctrine are more than a bit problematic.

 

[Corinth77777]

So just read what someone said He said...and it seems He is out there. I could feel a certain arrogance and now I think I may see why.

Genesis 6:4
The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the (sons of God / gods of The Living One.) went to the daughters of humans (sons of Adam) and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.

Nephilim means: "Fallen ones."
It means that the person is of a very low moral grade.

The sons of Adam were the elohiym (gods of "The Living One.")

Our bibles are not correctly translated in order to promote other ideologies.

What do you mean by this?

 

[Corinth77777]

Genesis 6:4
The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the (sons of God / gods of The Living One.) went to the daughters of humans (sons of Adam) and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.

I recall this passage some. But I remember listening to Vernon Mcgee I believe, IF I recall correctly. He was saying there was A Godly line of seth. So I will go back to see howhe defines Nephilim.

Nephilim means: "Fallen ones."
It means that the person is of a very low moral grade.

The sons of Adam were the elohiym (gods of "The Living One.")

Where does it say sons of Adam were the gods of the living one?
Because first one must take the route that Arnold Murray is correct and building off foundation before we can view from that lense.

Is that what you believe that his foundation is correct?

Our bibles are not correctly translated in order to promote other ideologies.

 

[CherubRam]

I recall this passage some. But I remember listening to Vernon Mcgee I believe, IF I recall correctly. He was saying there was A Godly line of seth. So I will go back to see howhe defines Nephilim.

Where does it say sons of Adam were the gods of the living one?
Because first one must take the route that Arnold Murray is correct and building off foundation before we can view from that lense.

Is that what you believe that his foundation is correct?

The word elohiym is not translated as such, nor is it translated into English.

 

[CherubRam]

So just read what someone said He said...and it seems He is out there. I could feel a certain arrogance and now I think I may see why.



What do you mean by this?

For example, the King James Bible was written for the Masonic Order, and is also called the Masonic Bible.

 

[Corinth77777]

The word elohiym is not translated as such, nor is it translated into English.

Not following "as such" referring to? The Godly line of Seth?

 

[Corinth77777]

For example, the King James Bible was written for the Masonic Order, and is also called the Masonic Bible.

Where does it say that, No one is to change the word of the Bible even if it was? hard to follow u

 

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For example, the King James Bible was written for the Masonic Order, and is also called the Masonic Bible.

Please provide evidence of this claim.

 

[CherubRam]

Please provide evidence of this claim.

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masonic bible - Bing

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This is not the evidence I asked for, which was evidence for your claim that “the King James Bible was written for the Masonic Order, and is also called the Masonic Bible.” This only shows Bibles that have the Masonic symbol on them for use in their lodges. It does not at all prove your claim. Please provide evidence.

 

[Who Me]

I turned on my TV and it was Arnold Murray who my daughter did quick research after He mistakenly said Moses instead of Noah in the segment of the show where people asked questions and answers; only to find what their church believed and that He passed away.

Well I'd brought her and her spouse in on this to see if she could help me understand something else, so I recorded it for them to see later. Before I knew it another perplexing question came up. Anyway later I googled His name and found His teaching on the subject. I still am slow at trying to understand when he explains the language part.

Now when I read Genesis back when I remembered that it seemed like the author was giving an overview first, and then explains the detail in another paragraph.

But what is your take on his teaching . Do you agree with Him? And if so why, and if

Anyone who denies the trinity should.d be treated with suspicion,
Have a read of this sites analysis of his teaching:- https://www.equip.org/articles/arnold-murray-and-the-shepherds-chapel/

May I suggestion you stop watching YouTube and attend a church.
If you can't or won't then read not watch websites like coldcase christianity, answersingenesis, wintery Knight, reasonable faith, tough questions answered to name a few.

But don't just read, have a note book and your bible open and liquid,e being at school makes notes and write up what you are learning.

 

[Corinth77777]

Anyone who denies the trinity should.d be treated with suspicion,
Have a read of this sites analysis of his teaching:- https://www.equip.org/articles/arnold-murray-and-the-shepherds-chapel/

May I suggestion you stop watching YouTube and attend a church.
If you can't or won't then read not watch websites like coldcase christianity, answersingenesis, wintery Knight, reasonable faith, tough questions answered to name a few.

But don't just read, have a note book and your bible open and liquid,e being at school makes notes and write up what you are learning.

One thing I learned is Im going to dwelve into a subject. To prove it correct or false. I attend Church, been in church all my life. And ? Nothing wrong with youtube, I think we ought to know what doctrines are out there.
I have not read His understanding of the trinity as yet to even know where He is coming from. Most people can't explain the trinity. Does that make them Hell bound?
His mere arrogance makes me suspicious lol.
I'm not running. Many things we learn in church are not always correct.
And I do read my Bible, and the Bible alone is not going to go into the Hebrew or greek etc. Nor will I take my understanding without cross examining with the word of God. But tks for your concern.

 

[Corinth77777]

Genesis 6:4
The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the (sons of God / gods of The Living One.) went to the daughters of humans (sons of Adam) and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.

Nephilim means: "Fallen ones."
It means that the person is of a very low moral grade.

Hi, here is something I found out -Nephilim is not the correct word 05769 - 'owlam is the Hebrew word which has several meanings like forever, everlasting, past, ancient time, of future, unending future. How it may have got translated to Nephilim I dont know.


But just noting how people lived very long before I believe God said His Spirit shall not always strive with man.... in Gen 6:3 Don't quote me word for word look it up.
But that means something

So it sounds like those who God's Spirit was with where they lived unending lives were there.


What happens next I have to continue to study

The sons of Adam were the elohiym (gods of "The Living One.")

Our bibles are not correctly translated in order to promote other ideologies.

 

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Hi, here is something I found out -Nephilim is not the correct word 05769 - 'owlam is the Hebrew word which has several meanings like forever, everlasting, past, ancient time, of future, unending future. How it may have got translated to Nephilim I dont know.

It didn’t. That word is translated as “old” and appears at the end of the verse. “Nephilim” or “giants” is the Hebrew word nephiyl/nephil (H5303), which is at the beginning of the verse.

 

[CherubRam]

This is not the evidence I asked for, which was evidence for your claim that “the King James Bible was written for the Masonic Order, and is also called the Masonic Bible.” This only shows Bibles that have the Masonic symbol on them for use in their lodges. It does not at all prove your claim. Please provide evidence.

King James was the head of the Masonic Lodge.

King James - The Founder of Freemason Lodges

Moriel is an international multi-faceted ministry of Jewish and non-Jewish regenerate believers one in Jesus the Messiah.

www.blog.moriel.org

 

[CherubRam]

Hi, here is something I found out -Nephilim is not the correct word 05769 - 'owlam is the Hebrew word which has several meanings like forever, everlasting, past, ancient time, of future, unending future. How it may have got translated to Nephilim I dont know.


But just noting how people lived very long before I believe God said His Spirit shall not always strive with man.... in Gen 6:3 Don't quote me word for word look it up.
But that means something

So it sounds like those who God's Spirit was with where they lived unending lives were there.


What happens next I have to continue to study

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
Or nphil {nef-eel'}; from naphal; properly, a feller, i.e. A bully or tyrant -- giant.

See HEBREW naphal

Strong's Concordance
naphal: to fall, lie
Original Word: נָפַל
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: naphal
Phonetic Spelling: (naw-fal')
Definition: to fall, lie

NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
a prim. root
Definition
to fall, lie

Englishman's Concordance
Genesis 6:4
HEB: הַנְּפִלִ֞ים הָי֣וּ בָאָרֶץ֮
NAS: The Nephilim were on the earth
KJV: There were giants in the earth
INT: the Nephilim were on the earth

Numbers 13:33
HEB: רָאִ֗ינוּ אֶת־ הַנְּפִילִ֛ים בְּנֵ֥י עֲנָ֖ק
NAS: also we saw the Nephilim (the sons
KJV: And there we saw the giants, the sons
INT: There saw the Nephilim sons of Anak

Numbers 13:33
HEB: עֲנָ֖ק מִן־ הַנְּפִלִ֑ים וַנְּהִ֤י בְעֵינֵ֙ינוּ֙
NAS: of Anak are part of the Nephilim); and we became
KJV: of Anak, [which come] of the giants: and we were in our own sight
INT: of Anak at the Nephilim become sight

Strong’s Hebrew: 3 Occurrences.
Hebrew words that end in (IM) are plural, meaning; “ones.” Referring to persons.
Translation: "Fallen Ones;" persons who are a very low moral grade.

 

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King James was the head of the Masonic Lodge.

King James - The Founder of Freemason Lodges

Moriel is an international multi-faceted ministry of Jewish and non-Jewish regenerate believers one in Jesus the Messiah.

www.blog.moriel.org

Even if true, that still doesn't prove your claim. King James almost certainly didn't do any of the translating himself, but left it to those who had the relevant expertise. Modern translations largely agree with the KJV but have nothing to do with Masons.