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Why is there so many different bibles. Why isnt there just one. Can The Bible really be trusted to be the word of God Almighty.
 
the same reason there are so many different sects and denominations. Many people read and interpret the bible in different ways, and therefore they would rather have a bible that makes their way seem more like the "right" way, and make it easier to understand it using their method of interpretation.

the more important question, is why so many books of the bible are deemed to be un-biblical, and who has the authority to say that one book that says it is inspired by god, is correct and another book, that says it is inspired by God, is wrong.
 
I think you will get your best answers and advice from Christians capable of answering this question, so I am moving this topic into the Christian Talk and Advice Forum.
 
On The Bibles: The Various translations come from three major reasons to what I can see.

1) New Manuscripts recovered help to create more literal texts, such as the ESV or the NASB. Where as the KJV was fairly literal in regards to the text available when it was written, older manuscripts like the Dead Sea Scrolls had not yet been discovered, therefore empolyed when translating the texts.The NASB and RSV also have places where translations are questinable, but that's why it is a translation, not the original languages themselves.

2) New translations are made to make the Bible more relative to the population. For instance, the NIV while being a decent translation, even more literal than the ESV at times, has a language to it that relates more easily to modern culture. This is another issue in itself, as sometimes when you try to hard to relate to a culture, correct doctrine and theologies suffer for it. The Message, a paraphase widely viewed as a translation, is a prime example.

3) Some translation are as peace pointed out translated in reference to a denominations beliefs. the NWT of the Jehovah's Witnesses is one example. In John 1:1 they use faulty assmptions of greek gramar to make the passage read in agreeance with their own doctrines. Instead of "the Word was God" the NWT read " the Word was a God." While the error may seem minor, this one difference effect the doctrines of Christ's Deity drasticly.

Why not Just one? This is due to the fact that we do not have the original writting of the books of the Bible. Multiple copies of each book leave room fo men to disagree as to what the originals read. If you would like more depth, just ask.

Can the Bible be trusted as the Word of God?In 1000 years, I presume what we've recorded will be questioned by skeptics as well. I can point you towards books and other things that can explain why we can accept the Bible as God's word, but it ultimately lie on your Faith in the God who gave us the Bible.
 
I know that some of you disagree with me on this, but I find about 99% of translations to be satisfactory, of the ones I have compared, at least. Although I don't why there are so many, I know why there different translations. Some of them are paraphrases, there is one I ran across that is in very basic English. Not everyone is up to reading Middle English, (I can understand Middle English, as I have read Shakespeare but I would rather read a more modern translation). I read NIV for ages but I have switched to ASV. I haven't quite figured why so many people think that the AV is the only version we can read, but I can respect their beliefs. I would rather however, as mentioned earlier, read a more modern translation.

There is one translation that I have actually read that I found any problems with, and that is the New World Translation (the Jehovah's Witness bible). They actually changed a few verses to fit their doctrine.
 
At the risk of getting lynched and I suspect I will get flack over it but so be it...

First let me start out with my weapon of choice. For this past year I have been using the NKJV for 80% of the time, then the ESV, NASB AND the KJV...

My main reason for using the NKJV is (please don't shoot me you kjv folk) is because it is the closest to the 1550 TR...This is even more evident now that I am taking an advanced grammatical analysis Greek class. When I was taking begining Greek some 5 years ago we were using the NASB bible, but were also using a differant set of manuscripts and differant study material. The point being that the 4 translations I mentioned are all quite Good....

Now comes the real lynching....

When I was doing mens minsistry and was dealing with many new converts, I would recommend to thm the NLT and as they got further in their walk the NIV study bible....These paraphrazes are easy to read and follow....and God will use those translations to accomplish his purpose... When I was teaching bible class, I would teach out of the KJV and would have someone read out of the NLT or NIV... I used this to great advantage as the word of God would come ''Alive...''

So to answer the question, ''Why is there so many translations'', I am sure I can come up with many reasons, but I will say this instead. Praise God we have them and can use them to further his Kingdom. I hear of villages were the towns have only one bible for various reasons...
 
Thankyou for everyones replies here. I will be straight with you people I am a Muslim. I was just testing the way people would share there views. I have been talking to a couple of atheist's and they seem to just swear all the time and insult etc. But at least here we have something in common. We Believe in God.

Furthermore i would like to share a couple of things with you and hopefully have your views on them.
 
deep_thinking said:
Thankyou for everyones replies here. I will be straight with you people I am a Muslim. I was just testing the way people would share there views. I have been talking to a couple of atheist's and they seem to just swear all the time and insult etc. But at least here we have something in common. We Believe in God.

Furthermore i would like to share a couple of things with you and hopefully have your views on them.
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Share away, but just be careful.
Oh, and we believe in a differant God just so you know.
We or most of us Worship Jesus.
 
It looks like a tree that's bent over. I don't mean to be offensive to anyone, but Christians claim to see images of Christ, Mary, the Cross, and many other things. They may be miracles, but then again, it just may be how things worked out.

Suggestion for Moderator's Action:I suggest this thread be moved to Christianity and Other Religions. This section of the board is intended to be primarily for Christians and their discussions. I do not mean to offend you, deep_thinking, as you didn't post this thread here, but you claim to be a Muslim, and by the description of this section, should not be posting in this section. However, if the mods of this section don't mind, nor do I. :)
 
Yeh i have seen some of the Chritian miracles. But i am sure you would agree that the ones in Islam are more realistic, well thats my view anyway, and hopefully by then time i have shared them we would agree. Anyway im going to show you another one which is one of my favourites. Click on the link below.

http://www.submission.org/miracle/nebula.html
 
Can you give an example of a 'more realistic' Islam miracle?
 
You should try clicking on the link and reading its content. It is stated in the Quran as follows.

Surat ar - Rahman
37: When the sky disintegrates and turns rose coloured like paint.

This is stated 1400 years ago and it has only been a discovery a couple of years ago. I find it to be amazing. So im sorry but i dont understand when you want a more realistic Islam miracle.
 
I did look, but I fail to see how it is more realistic than a Christian healing etc.?
 
Hi there,

What do you mean by Christian healing?

The point i was trying to make is that the Quran is the word of God. As i mentioned before it was mentioned about 1400 years ago. There are many things that are mentioned in the Quran that have only been discovered lately. There are other things which are not known to Science today. Only time will discover these miracles from the Quran. There are other things that the Quran states that people will not be able to do. You have to remeber this was a long time ago and here in the Quran God is telling us about a red rose nebula 3000 light years away!
 
sorry, when you said miracles I thought of things like my partners mum being healed froma tumour the day she went in for the operation, or a friend who was deaf being able to hear again. sorry for missing the point, but that's what miracles mean to me.
 
Below are definitions for the words miracle and cure.

Miracle: an effect or extraordinary event in the physical world that surpasses all known human or natural powers and is ascribed to a supernatural cause.

Cure: a means of healing or restoring to health; remedy.

I see where your coming from Dancing queen. Here in Islam we thank God in situation like this. We also thank God when something goes not the way we wanted. We say 'Allah knows best in all conditions'. So we are happy with what God has destined. Same for Christains Ive heard them say you know something like 'Thank God.'
 
deep_thinking said:
You should try clicking on the link and reading its content. It is stated in the Quran as follows.

Surat ar - Rahman
37: When the sky disintegrates and turns rose coloured like paint.

This is stated 1400 years ago and it has only been a discovery a couple of years ago. I find it to be amazing. So im sorry but i dont understand when you want a more realistic Islam miracle.
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Deep_thinking, This is quite a stretch, don't you think? The sky has not disintergrated at all. A star has is not the sky, but a mere light that influences the appearance of the ski. This start is not even visible by the human eye, so our sky has not disintergrated into any, When I woke up this morning, our sky was blue and white.

Nostradomus also made what are widely heald as prophecies. Here is an portion from one website discussng one suchg "prophecy":

www.evangelicaloutreach.com said:
The Kennedy Assassinations
Many have heard that Nostradamus accurately predicted the assassinations of JFK and RFK 400 years in advance, but did he really make such a prediction or are his fans trying to make his prophecies fit history and thereby unduly exalt his predictive powers? Dear reader, carefully ponder the following for yourself. This is supposed to be the Kennedy assassination predictions:

The great man will be struck down in the day by a thunderbolt. An evil deed, foretold by the bearer of a petition. According to the prediction another falls at night time. Conflict at Reims, London, and pestilence in Tuscany (PON, p. 33).

Please note that the facts reveal that there was no specific mention of the name Kennedy as you might have thought, or of his time frame or century, neither was it stated that it would be the brother or even a relative who would “fall at night time.†Furthermore, as we look back into history, how did the Kennedy assassinations trigger pestilence in Tuscany? In spite of all of this, however, one of his devotees wishes to understand this quatrain as meaning:

The first three lines here may apply to the assassinations of the two Kennedy brothers. John F. Kennedy was shot down (thunderbolt) in broad daylight at Dallas, Texas on 22nd November 1963 by the psychopath, Lee Harvey Oswald. The other man linked with him who is killed at night, was his brother Robert F. Kennedy who was shot down on 5th June 1968 in the early morning while celebrating his victory in the presidential primary elections at a hotel. Line 2, the fact that the assassination had been told by the bearer of a petition may refer to the many death threats John F. Kennedy and his brother received during their terms of office. The troubles in France, England and Italy would refer to the world repercussions of these assassinations (PON, p. 33).

Dear reader, isn’t it clear from the evidence that the predictions that Nostradamus allegedly made about the Kennedy assassinations are contrived! If you stopped someone at random on the sidewalk who never heard of Nostradamus and gave him this actual quatrain, do you sincerely think he would say it predicted the Kennedy assassinations? Never! Furthermore, if RFK was to be the other man who falls at night time, why does the record instead show he was shot in the early morning?
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Deep_Thinking, if the koran is such a predictive source of prohecy, why are the details so general? The Miracle in question refers to a star, which barely influences the sky. further more, there may have been many other similiar stellar phenomina before we could use technology to see them.I don't intend to be rude, but this event has been forced into the claimed prophecy, it does not convince me in the slightest that it is a miracle.
 
Dear Blazin,

You are entitled to have your view. What i can say is that i havent looked at the Quran in Arabic for this verse. This is a translation. There are many translations of the Quran made by different people into different languages but the Quran in Arabic is the best for reference. The reason why i am mentioning this is because the Quran is a feature of literary style. A lot of people refer to the Quran in English and think there is a mistake, but only when we can get familiar with the Quran in Arabic it becomes clear. Ill give you one example below.

http://www.missionislam.com/islamicart/ ... pg_jpg.jpg
The link above is in Arabic. Now for just this. There has been so many translations for example:

In the Name of Allah, the Benificent, the Merciful
In the Name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful
This is just 2 there are many more just for this.

You also talk about it not being visible to the Human eye, well then this is a Miracle then. Remember this has only been discovered 1999/2000. We only have the technology now to see what a miracle this is. Imagine how it was 1400 years ago.

Ok lets move on becuase i have got another i would like to share. Blazin you mentioned that the red rose nebula was not convincing enough well i would like you and everyone else to look at the following link.

http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/predictions_02.html
http://www.backtoislam.com/images/ramse ... h_body.jpg
 
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