do we require more educated women?

[Obadiah]

So you don't believe education is proper for Christians either???

 

[His_nee (Jeff)]

So you don't believe education is proper for Christians either???

That's not what I said.

Education(worldly, societal, religious,scientific,economic, political) doesn't help a person in the world get saved or produce anything good. It does lead to more and more ungodliness in society, and more war, and more oppression and more of a lot of wickednesses practiced as if 'good' - even taught to be 'good' when they are far from it!
Personal and societal (worldly) education OUTSIDE OF CHRIST, is simply that, "worldly/fleshly/carnal" .

 

[Kathi]

That's not what I said.

Education(worldly, societal, religious,scientific,economic, political) doesn't help a person in the world get saved or produce anything good. It does lead to more and more ungodliness in society, and more war, and more oppression and more of a lot of wickednesses practiced as if 'good' - even taught to be 'good' when they are far from it!
Personal and societal (worldly) education OUTSIDE OF CHRIST, is simply that, "worldly/fleshly/carnal" .

I think education is very important.It is a young adults future.

 

[His_nee (Jeff)]

I think education is very important.It is a young adults future.

One of the oldest proverbs on earth is "before an education, give your son a trade". That's still true.

But, no matter what a persons education, if they are not saved, it doesn't matter. After saved, listen to Yhwh - He's in charge. (and always, always, always in line with all of His Word(Scripture).

 

[Obadiah]

That's not what I said.

Well, no, it wasn't. That's why it was a question and not a quote!

...Education(worldly, societal, religious,scientific,economic, political) doesn't help a person in the world get saved or produce anything good. It does lead to more and more ungodliness in society, and more war, and more oppression and more of a lot of wickednesses practiced as if 'good' - even taught to be 'good' when they are far from it!
Personal and societal (worldly) education OUTSIDE OF CHRIST, is simply that, "worldly/fleshly/carnal" .

So in all that, clearly your answer to my question is: No, education is not proper for a Christian. I would not agree with this at all. I would only agree that it is possible to use education badly, but not that education in itself is wrong. In the past the idea of education being a bad thing for Christians is what led to the religious leaders keeping the common people in the dark about what the truth of the Word of God says to us so that the leaders could have power over the people by saying things like "This is what God said and you can't contradict me because you don't understand God's word." This is wrong.

 

[Kathi]

One of the oldest proverbs on earth is "before an education, give your son a trade". That's still true.

But, no matter what a persons education, if they are not saved, it doesn't matter. After saved, listen to Yhwh - He's in charge. (and always, always, always in line with all of His Word(Scripture).

Of course having an education is not a guarantee for salvation.I don't remember anyone saying that.I am sure God would like to Bless many with a good education and a wonderful career.

 

[His_nee (Jeff)]

Of course having an education is not a guarantee for salvation.I don't remember anyone saying that.I am sure God would like to Bless many with a good education and a wonderful career.

Yes, He has blessed many with such - including even the unsaved, ungodly, unrighteous as it is written "he sends the rain and the sunshine on the just and on the unjust" .
In some circles it has become somewhat like the prosperity gospel though, a rabbit trail down which many go and few return to Yhwh.
In all things, i.e. not just education, seek Yhwh, and not the 'thing' (education,wisdom,knowledge,healing,etc) - or as it used to be put "seek the Giver and not the gifts".
The 'gifts', education included, have pushed Yhwh out of place in many lives / groups/ goals/ trainings..... and from much of what is written in Scripture can diminish a persons likelihood of pursuing Yhwh's Way in Christ Jesus.
("look around, not many rich, not many smart/educated/ not many well-to-do are saved" )
1 Corinthians 1:26-29
Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
26 Just look at yourselves, brothers — look at those whom God has called! Not many of you are wise by the world’s standards, not many wield power or boast noble birth. 27 But God chose what the world considers nonsense in order to shame the wise; God chose what the world considers weak in order to shame the strong; 28 and God chose what the world looks down on as common or regards as nothing in order to bring to nothing what the world considers important; 29 so that no one should boast before God.

 

[Deborah13]

Yes, He has blessed many with such - including even the unsaved, ungodly, unrighteous as it is written "he sends the rain and the sunshine on the just and on the unjust" .

These same unsaved people that God has blessed with wealth is it also God that has lead them to bless others with this wealth?

 

[His_nee (Jeff)]

Yhwh is righteous and just and true always. Just because He has blessed the wicked, doesn't mean that they can bless anyone nor that they will obey Yhwh. Remember the whole world rejects Yeshua, even after 1/3 of mankind is killed, the other 2/3 do not think of turning to Yhwh for help, they instead curse Him and continue in their rebellion against Him and the oppression of His people all over the globe.



Luke 21:1-4
Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
21 Then Yeshua looked up, and as he watched the rich placing their gifts into the Temple offering-boxes, 2 he also saw a poor widow put in two small coins. 3 He said, “I tell you the truth, this poor widow has put in more than all the others. 4 For they, out of their wealth, have contributed money they could easily spare; but she, out of her poverty, has given all she had to live on.”


Matthew 19:21
Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
21 Yeshua said to him, “If you are serious about reaching the goal, go and sell your possessions, give to the poor, and you will have riches in heaven. Then come, follow me!”


"no one can serve two masters (Yhwh and money)"

 

[Kathi]

These same unsaved people that God has blessed with wealth is it also God that has lead them to bless others with this wealth?

It all depends on how greedy they are with their money.Sometimes the more money someone accumulates the more they want and the more selfish they become.Kind of like "MY PRECIOUS".I know because my X husband was very wealthy.But he would not give 5 cents for our daughter to go to college.Not all Christians who have alot of money are like that.God knows if someone is giving with a kind heart our if it is just for their own benefit.

 

[for_his_glory]

Education is a powerful thing, but can be used in various ways of good and evil. Even a simple education of the three R's is required in order to obtain certain jobs. Like Obadiah said, as long as the women doesn't hold anything over the husbands head as he is the Spiritual head of the house I see nothing wrong with a women that has a higher education than a man that might not have even graduated high school. There is secular and Spiritual education and a time and purpose for both.

 

[Kathi]

Yes,I can see the good and bad.The bad would be if someone becomes very prideful if they obtain a very powerful job and make alot of money.The good side of this is if someone can still live a modest life and give and help others and count their Blessings for what the Lord has given them.

 

[Classik]

several things, but first, who is "we" ? in do "we" in the title ? if you're a bot, which is unlikely but still possible, then "we" is like tron. if you're a feminist, which is more likely than a bot, but still an undesirable answer, then "we" is a bunch of zealous disobedient people with a cause more important than God Himself. if you're a republican, then.... we'd better not go there! if you're a roman(religious not politic), then that was answered 2000 years ago (not good for men nor women). if you're married, then did you ask the question of did she? (for that matter, online anonymity is such perhaps, no.... couldn't be... but who is? who can tell? )
so, there's lots of 'right' answers. in line with Yhwh's Word. and against all that normal people think and say and do.

Thanks. The world actually

 

[His_nee (Jeff)]

Thanks. The world actually

Thank you. That simplifies it greatly.
The answer is NO.

 

[jasonc]

Thank you. That simplifies it greatly.
The answer is NO.

so when im too old to walk, and my hips hurt. I should go flip burgers? I shouldn't go and find a degree that would enable to work and make money without walking like I do in the sun?

 

[Kathi]

so when im too old to walk, and my hips hurt. I should go flip burgers? I shouldn't go and find a degree that would enable to work and make money without walking like I do in the sun?

I do not think you are ever too old to seek a degree.I once knew a volunteer at a hospital.She was 45 years old.She went on to attend Medical School and became a Physican.I think that is very cool.

 

[jasonc]

I do not think you are ever too old to seek a degree.I once knew a volunteer at a hospital.She was 45 years old.She went on to attend Medical School and became a Physican.I think that is very cool.

I have a degree already, but god has shut the door on that field for me. I can outwalk the younger ones in my job. but it will come within a decade that will be harder for me and when my hips give out due to age. my knees don't like the hard days of walking. I feel it when I do mma.

 

[His_nee (Jeff)]

I'm sorry if I misunderstood your name and profile or the op , I thought you are a guy.

so when im too old to walk, and my hips hurt. I should go flip burgers? I shouldn't go and find a degree that would enable to work and make money without walking like I do in the sun?

Thank you. That simplifies it greatly.
The answer is NO.

Thanks. The world actually

What does the bible say about this?

do we require more educated women? Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Classik, Yesterday at 9:54 PM.

 

[AirDancer]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a woman getting an education.

Many women have to work to support themselves these days. Without an education, it would be more difficult for a woman to provide for herself.

When it comes to a married woman with an education, again, there is again absolutely nothing wrong with that. In a Christian household, both spouses should want the best for the other. Their love for each other should not be greedy, envious, fearful; if these emotions exist, then the spouse who has these emotions should sit down with the other spouse and discuss the situation.

 

[Kathi]

I have a degree already, but god has shut the door on that field for me. I can outwalk the younger ones in my job. but it will come within a decade that will be harder for me and when my hips give out due to age. my knees don't like the hard days of walking. I feel it when I do mma.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a woman getting an education.

Many women have to work to support themselves these days. Without an education, it would be more difficult for a woman to provide for herself.

When it comes to a married woman with an education, again, there is again absolutely nothing wrong with that. In a Christian household, both spouses should want the best for the other. Their love for each other should not be greedy, envious, fearful; if these emotions exist, then the spouse who has these emotions should sit down with the other spouse and discuss the situation.

Exactly