Do you believe in aliens, if so how do you think they exist?

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Nope. Isaiah 45:12.

But I also think of it this way, the bible says that Jesus died once for all. If other alien life exists in the universe, then He would have had to die for them too. Will He go and die for them on their planets, too? (which is not biblical, because He died ONCE). Therefore, that makes earth the center of the universe, yeah?

The idea that aliens exist actually contradicts the word. I think it's actually a demonic deception.
 
On a side note, I find it curious that on a christian forum of all places, there would be a subforum for conspiracy theories. I wonder why that is. Anyone care to answer me that?
 
Demonic deception is no conspiracy theory. The Satanic opposition to God is a thread that runs throughout the Bible, literally, from Genesis 3 to Revelation 19.
 
Nope. Isaiah 45:12.

But I also think of it this way, the bible says that Jesus died once for all. If other alien life exists in the universe, then He would have had to die for them too. Will He go and die for them on their planets, too? (which is not biblical, because He died ONCE). Therefore, that makes earth the center of the universe, yeah?

The idea that aliens exist actually contradicts the word. I think it's actually a demonic deception.
Aliens are coming across the southern border.
 
No, I do not believe there are alien life out there.
Or, let me put it succinctly that if there is alien life out there they are not meant to communicate with us nor will we find any proof for the sole reason that God prepares His people and if there were life out "there" and there was a day in which they make contact with us, God would provide some sort of instruction in what we are to do when it happens. Just like tribulation, persecution, or conquest and exile, God would send a message or two to us to prepare us for such an event.
 
Is there ' E. T.' out there?
Well did God create life that as all creation is fallen, can never hear the gospel?
Or did God use evolution to create fallen life that again can never hear the gospel?
Or is the ufo or uap as it now is a demonic activity intended to divert people.e away from the gospel?

Look up Gary Bates and the many articles he's written on this subject at creation.com.
Point to note, he reports that many alien abductions and other experiences have ceased when Jesus's name has been called upon!
 
Just curious

Alien life in the universe? Very, very very unlikely. Are you aware of the multiplying factors that make it possible for life to exist on Earth? There are so many, and they have to be so precisely arranged, that the replication of these factors anywhere else in our universe, despite its size, is essentially impossible. Some have referred to this as the "Goldilocks Effect" - everything being just-so, not too "hot," not too "cold." We are, for instance, in a surprisingly "calm" region of space - no "black holes," or supernovas, or vast "clouds" of world-ending debris. We are also in just the right proximity to our sun; were we only slightly closer, or more distant, to the Sun, life could not exist on our planet. Our particular relationship to the other planets in our solar system is crucial to life on Earth, too. Among other things, they draw off astral bodies (meteors, comets) moving through our solar system that might otherwise impact us. As well, the planets in our solar system help stabilize our orbit around the Sun. And so on. There are now actually hundreds of necessary factors scientists have recognized that allow for life on Earth. In light of this, the idea that such a precisely arranged and multi-faceted state-of-affairs could instantiate elsewhere in the universe is so exceeding unlikely as to be preposterous.

So, no, I don't think there are aliens somewhere out in the universe. But there are fallen angels, demons, who would love it, I'm sure, if we mistook them for mere aliens.
 
Alien life in the universe? Very, very very unlikely. Are you aware of the multiplying factors that make it possible for life to exist on Earth? There are so many, and they have to be so precisely arranged, that the replication of these factors anywhere else in our universe, despite its size, is essentially impossible. Some have referred to this as the "Goldilocks Effect" - everything being just-so, not too "hot," not too "cold." We are, for instance, in a surprisingly "calm" region of space - no "black holes," or supernovas, or vast "clouds" of world-ending debris. We are also in just the right proximity to our sun; were we only slightly closer, or more distant, to the Sun, life could not exist on our planet. Our particular relationship to the other planets in our solar system is crucial to life on Earth, too. Among other things, they draw off astral bodies (meteors, comets) moving through our solar system that might otherwise impact us. As well, the planets in our solar system help stabilize our orbit around the Sun. And so on. There are now actually hundreds of necessary factors scientists have recognized that allow for life on Earth. In light of this, the idea that such a precisely arranged and multi-faceted state-of-affairs could instantiate elsewhere in the universe is so exceeding unlikely as to be preposterous.

So, no, I don't think there are aliens somewhere out in the universe. But there are fallen angels, demons, who would love it, I'm sure, if we mistook them for mere aliens.
Water bears can live in outer space not much is to extreme for those little guys. Life is very very very robust.
 
This guy is probably maybe the person I think is maybe most Credible out of the kind of Government Sphere, the Government doesn’t necessarily see him as one of their’s, but I think amongst those in Government who would like there to be things Spoken about this guy is probably giving some of the most agreeable information. I did not watch this particular Podcast, but I saw him in a Movie on Tubi.

What I’ve seen him talk about is kind of Telepathic Communications with Aliens. He does say though I think that they have Alien Crash Victims at like Area 51, and also said that he knows many who have killed themselves just because they know about like Nuclear Events where Light beings communicated Telepathically about the Earth Community. So he could technically be pushing some Stories told by Dead People or that would satisfy those Dead People. But if you read my post before this, the last part is about Emanuel Swedenborg and you will see in that Book that he has pretty much gotten everything mixed together, from Angels and Spirits, to Aliens, to Greek Planet Gods, Emanuel Swedenborg brings it all together using Latin, and Jesus, like the Testament of Solomon. We will eventually need to get into kind of Saints and Angels, and Prayer and Shining and things.

But the kind of things that Dr. Greer talks about regarding kind of Light Beings or Warnings or Imparted Feelings of Wellbeing, all of this comes from Entities without Bodies whom have though become connected to some of us, like a Subconscious or a DNA, it’s part of us. There is a Book that says, “To say that the Eyes are Blind in fact is to say that their purpose is to see, so to say an Angel is not working in line with God is to admit that it is the Nature of the Angel to cleave to God”. There are kind of other Planes of existence, and since Time is flowing down in a Cone Shape you could see some of these Entities as a Line drawn down the side of the Cone that will continue to emerge as the Spiral shape of the flow of Time Spirals downward. But they are kind of like DNA or kind of like the Subconscious or kind of like a Dream, but they are my Ancestors and all of ours, and their God.

The Greeks and Egyptians used to know about them, the Egyptians would cone their heads to fit more in. And this is how Humans can actually be the Representation of a God on Earth, by talking first to an Invisible Entity and giving it the Child. You would then raise the Child everyone letting it know they had done that, or supporting it because they had. And then when we all do this on purpose and for example teach the Baby that it is Thoth, and show it the Emerald Tablets and tell it it wrote those Words. If you do the whole process you are giving a God Flesh, same kind of as how Jesus did. He was born King, declared by 3 Wise men and the Shepherds as their King, and then he goes on raised to be God’s Son, and Heir of David.

So if you did all that, to the outside it would look explainable, you could say “Oh, they told the Baby it’s a God”, but that doesn’t describe the part where everyone uses the Invisible Entity to get there. But this is how things have always worked, and for there to be Light beings imparting Well-being or even Knowledge or Dreams would not be something different than what has been going on forever.

But to say there are Crashed Alien Wreckage Bodies I think then is a stretch, especially if the person isn’t aware of Nephilim and things. Like what I would expect from someone that has everything, is first that Light being or Invisible thing. Then they would also know that the Government targets People for basically kind of a tagged Animal Research Program along the lines of Bigfoot Hunting, but they are after the Watchers, Giants, Half-Giants and things, I can say with a lot of certainty that the Government does not in fact have any Bodies of any Crash-landed Aliens, but they are using Bio-Metrics, Genetic Genealogy, and kind of Steroeotypes and things to start to try to do like kind of Pre-Crime like guess who is more likely to kill someone with a Knife based on Ancient circumstances in your Genes. But they mainly kind of see all of this as a threat to Democracy, and maybe like Equality. But so I would expect to see someone who has the Invisible, then knows about those of us that are here with Flesh Bodies, but maybe Dr. Greer was there in a Time before this was so widely understood by the Government as far as the descendants of the Angelic Fall and everything.

But then, if we were going to get into any kind of discussion about some kind of Extraterrestrial Race of Flesh People outside of the Nephilim, or that came in Ships and made us, I think first we would have to look at all the Ancient Stories, and the Ancient Stories say it was us and the Invisible things also. So basically Ancient Aliens the TV Show would be the Crux of Dr. Greer being right about the Government having ET Hostages. And Ancient Aliens only proves the Invisible, it doesn’t prove anything actually came here in a Ship, ever.

So I think that is where the argument would be. Like, are the Ships those People claim are out there, are you saying they are like my Cousins? Or my Great Grandparents? Because I’m pretty sure if they aren’t here in the Flesh, they are Invisible.
The "aliens" are called "familiar spirits" in the OT, Greer is a medium. They have deceived him. In ancient Israel he would be put to death if he did not repent:

26 `And you shall be holy to Me, for I the LORD am holy, and have separated you from the peoples, that you should be Mine.
27 `A man or a woman who is a medium, or who has familiar spirits, shall surely be put to death; they shall stone them with stones. Their blood shall be upon them.'" (Lev. 20:26-27 NKJ)
 
Water bears can live in outer space not much is to extreme for those little guys. Life is very very very robust.

And in what circumstance did this life come to be? Water "bears" and all other life on earth began to exist within an environment God fine-tuned for life. Without such a circumstance, no life would exist. It's also misleading to say that tardigrades (water bears) can "live" in space. They've adapted for survival in waterless environments, not the vacuum of space, "hibernating" until water appears. What a tardigrade does in space isn't "living" in the sense of eating, growing, moving and replicating - all basic features of a living organism. In outer space, a water bear is about as "alive" as a rock.
 
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And in what circumstance did this life come to be? Water "bears" and all other life on earth began to exist within an environment God fine-tuned for life. Without such a circumstance, no life would exist. It's also misleading to say that tardigrades (water bears) can "live" in space. They've adapted for survival in waterless environments, not the vacuum of space, "hibernating" until water appears. What a tardigrade does in space isn't "living" in the sense of eating, growing, moving and replicating - all basic features of a living organism. In outer space, a water bear is about as "alive" as a rock.
Life isn't fragile, it can survive in the most extreme places including space. To think it isn't is about as smart as a rock.
 
Life isn't fragile, it can survive in the most extreme places including space. To think it isn't is about as smart as a rock.

??? Life is exceedingly fragile! And it's short, too (this side of the grave). Man is like a soon-wilting flower, the Bible says, blooming briefly and then fading and dying, becoming dust. Put a water bear on Mercury and see how tough it is, or in a black hole, or in the path of the explosion of a supernova. No, life is far from the sort of tough it would have to be to endure in the universe beyond our planet and solar system.

The entire universe, actually, stands on a razor's edge of fine-tuning for life. For example, alter the gravitational constant and the universe we know does not exist. Too great a constant and the matter in the universe burns up far too rapidly to allow for life; too weak a constant and the planets and stars cannot form. Here's a list of a number of the constants upon which a universe allowing life depends:

 
??? Life is exceedingly fragile! And it's short, too (this side of the grave). Man is like a soon-wilting flower, the Bible says, blooming briefly and then fading and dying, becoming dust. Put a water bear on Mercury and see how tough it is, or in a black hole, or in the path of the explosion of a supernova. No, life is far from the sort of tough it would have to be to endure in the universe beyond our planet and solar system.

The entire universe, actually, stands on a razor's edge of fine-tuning for life. For example, alter the gravitational constant and the universe we know does not exist. Too great a constant and the matter in the universe burns up far too rapidly to allow for life; too weak a constant and the planets and stars cannot form. Here's a list of a number of the constants upon which a universe allowing life depends:

Lots of animals live for hundreds of years like the Greenland shark up to 400 years. Some type of clams 15,000 years old and many more.

Your example of life being fragile because it can't survive the wake of a supernova or black hole is laughable.
 
??? Life is exceedingly fragile! And it's short, too (this side of the grave). Man is like a soon-wilting flower, the Bible says, blooming briefly and then fading and dying, becoming dust. Put a water bear on Mercury and see how tough it is, or in a black hole, or in the path of the explosion of a supernova. No, life is far from the sort of tough it would have to be to endure in the universe beyond our planet and solar system.

The entire universe, actually, stands on a razor's edge of fine-tuning for life. For example, alter the gravitational constant and the universe we know does not exist. Too great a constant and the matter in the universe burns up far too rapidly to allow for life; too weak a constant and the planets and stars cannot form. Here's a list of a number of the constants upon which a universe allowing life depends:

Water bears are tuff they can survive temperatures up to 300 degrees or minus the same and of coarse not on mercury, your using some outlandish scenario to try and disprove that life isn't robust.

The planet has gone through mass extinctions, catastrophic events yet ife is still presist.
 
No, I do not believe there are alien life out there.
Or, let me put it succinctly that if there is alien life out there they are not meant to communicate with us nor will we find any proof for the sole reason that God prepares His people and if there were life out "there" and there was a day in which they make contact with us, God would provide some sort of instruction in what we are to do when it happens. Just like tribulation, persecution, or conquest and exile, God would send a message or two to us to prepare us for such an event.
Why the "if there is"? Evidently you don't believe Scripture rules it out. I do. The "sons of God" = angels, were created when God created the heavens approximately 6,000 to 10,000 years ago, according to scripture. The "sons of God" angels rejoiced as God fashioned the earth:

4 "Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding.
5 Who determined its measurements? Surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it?
6 To what were its foundations fastened? Or who laid its cornerstone,
7 When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy?
(Job 38:4-7 NKJ)

Fallen angels and unclean spirits disguise themselves as ET, and deceive Dr. Greer and his followers at their CE5 events, filmed in Dr. Steven Greer’s “Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind: Contact Has Begun”.

“Trans-dimensional beings” visibly appear in various light forms while UFO spectacle occurs in the sky. The evil spirits telepathically assuage the fear of contactees claiming Extraterrestrials want only peaceful coexistence humankind. Dr. Greer lies when he claims no one has been harmed by CE5 events.

Others disagree. So many have been injured or killed it warranted its own classification “Close Encounters of the Sixth Kind.”

Satan can accomplish any deception he wants in our realm (2 Thess. 2:3, 7-12; 1 Tim. 4:1; 1 John 4:1-5).

And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. (2 Cor. 11:14 NKJ)
 
Why the "if there is"? Evidently you don't believe Scripture rules it out. I do. The "sons of God" = angels, were created when God created the heavens approximately 6,000 to 10,000 years ago, according to scripture. The "sons of God" angels rejoiced as God fashioned the earth:


7 When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy?
(Job 38:4-7 NKJ)
That verse doesn't state angels were created when the heavens were created.
 
That verse doesn't state angels were created when the heavens were created.

That is Correct, it only says angels (sons of God) already existed (and rejoiced) as God refashioned the earth to give it life.

Genesis 1:1 says in the beginning God created "the heavens" plural FIRST, then the earth:

In the beginning God created the heavens (08064 שָׁמַיִם shamayim) and the earth. (Gen. 1:1 NKJ)

You alone are the LORD; You have made heaven (08064 שָׁמַיִם shamayim), The heaven (08064 שָׁמַיִם shamayim) of heavens (08064 שָׁמַיִם shamayim), with all their host (06635 צָבָא tsaba'), The earth and everything on it, The seas and all that is in them, And You preserve them all. The host (06635 צָבָא tsaba') of heaven worships You. (Neh. 9:6 NKJ)

"The host" refers to both stars and planets, and the angels. Only angels can "worship."

So Genesis 1:1 implies the angels were created first, before humans, when everything else was created by Christ the Word of God, in the beginning:

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 He was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. (Jn. 1:1-3 NKJ)

Some see a gap in time in Genesis 1:1, between creation of heaven and earth, which would allow for a universe of billions of years. But that contradicts the express statements that God created everything in 6 days:

And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. (Gen. 2:2 NKJ)

Regardless, the angels were already alive and singing as God "laid the foundations" of the earth. I cannot find any other place where the Bible describes God creating the angels.