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Growth Do you believe religion should include...

Do you believe religion should include...

  • the Holy Spirit

    Votes: 8 100.0%
  • Christ

    Votes: 8 100.0%
  • forgiveness without repentance

    Votes: 1 12.5%
  • politics without God

    Votes: 1 12.5%
  • Heaven without Hell

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    8
:hysterical I know. Idk, it struck me kinda deep what she said because I knew it wasn't true. I've been falsely accused in life before and I hate it when it happens. Especially about a good Sister.
We all get falsely accused sometimes.
So what?
God knows the truth!

Do you know that this is what Turning The Other Cheek means?
Considering the cultural meaning, it does not mean to let the guy punch you on the other cheek too!
In Jesus' time a slap on the cheek was an insult and an affront to one's dignity.

God's Prophets suffered such treatment.
1 Kings 22:24 as are those who are persecuted for following Christ.

We should indulge the one who insults us to show that we are secure in our position with God and we thus show the offender that we do not give too much credit to his insult.
Onlookers would also see this and understand.

We thus show Allegiance to a higher power.

Sorry. Got a little carried away...
 
We all get falsely accused sometimes.
So what?
God knows the truth!

Do you know that this is what Turning The Other Cheek means?
Considering the cultural meaning, it does not mean to let the guy punch you on the other cheek too!

God's Prophets suffered such treatment.
1 Kings 22:24 as are those who are persecuted for following Christ.

We should indulge the one who insults us to show that we are secure in our position with God and we thus show the offender that we do not give too much credit to his insult.
Onlookers would also see this and understand.

We thus show Allegiance to a higher power.

Sorry. Got a little carried away...

Well, you know, if you're right you're right. And your right, Lol. You make an awesome point. I had some other things to do around the house for awhile, and I've kinda been pondering this exact thing while doing so. My train of thought took me back to my childhood and how once upon a time, My earthly Dad did try to teach me to walk with some honor. It's an honor thing ultimately. He made his point about it one day when he heard me back-talk my Mother. He said, Is that any way to talk to your Mother? And...POW he punched me in the face. I actually put 2+2 together and reasoned it was an honor thing. it was like a continuation of the same lesson and he made his point.
I was even able to reason it out further. Don't smack the girls around. Don't talk bad about them. They're Gods greatest creation! Certainly better than men in most respects. So I didn't. It's prolly why she stayed for 26 years.

In Jesus' time a slap on the cheek was an insult and an affront to one's dignity.

See what I mean? I'm right. You know it too, so it confirms it for me. You don't seem to hear the word honor tossed around very much any more. That's sad. The funny part about it is that it made me have a pretty short fuse in situations regarding honor with me and my Wife. I had "honor" so I'm justified to rise up against you da-da-da (not YOU!! LOL), I'm just sayin'. and I wasn't even walking with the Lord then. I had met him and walked away to do my life thing because I know how to do it the right way! Blah blah blahblahblah. And I gave some people a really hard time over trying to have honor. I did think I was a good man, and I used that. It was empowering.

It still makes me feel good. I did do the right thing sometimes. (LOL). Then the Lord decided that I had wasted too much time not living for Him. And Our gracious and loving heavenly Father, and Jesus, came to me in total love...to chop me down. And they did it. I was too big in my heart. Too tall. It was the worst series of events that had ever happened to me in my life. It wasn't just a punch in the face from dad this time, much worse. But! Again! I listened to my Father. Now I realize that it was the best thing that could have happened to me. I owe God lots of glory for saving my life and teaching me about real honor with Him. To walk in love towards our Brothers and Sisters.

Love them enough to let them be right. Love them enough to pray forgiveness for them as they crucify you. I get this now. Sometimes I feel as if, it would be impossible to offend me, of late. I did an extra fast and the Lord enriched me. However, my flesh has had a lot more training in having a short fuse than I have in walking in love. I am getting better though! You shoulda heard me when I first came here to this board! I think I'm coming along ok. This is one of my struggles. I don't know if anyone else has seenany improvement with me. And I don't really care either because that's not walking in love. When He poured out His Spirit upon me...it was like, He gave me a teeny piece of His heart. I guess I'm gettin carried away now, Lol :rofl2
 
Well, you know, if you're right you're right. And your right, Lol. You make an awesome point. I had some other things to do around the house for awhile, and I've kinda been pondering this exact thing while doing so. My train of thought took me back to my childhood and how once upon a time, My earthly Dad did try to teach me to walk with some honor. It's an honor thing ultimately. He made his point about it one day when he heard me back-talk my Mother. He said, Is that any way to talk to your Mother? And...POW he punched me in the face. I actually put 2+2 together and reasoned it was an honor thing. it was like a continuation of the same lesson and he made his point.
I was even able to reason it out further. Don't smack the girls around. Don't talk bad about them. They're Gods greatest creation! Certainly better than men in most respects. So I didn't. It's prolly why she stayed for 26 years.



See what I mean? I'm right. You know it too, so it confirms it for me. You don't seem to hear the word honor tossed around very much any more. That's sad. The funny part about it is that it made me have a pretty short fuse in situations regarding honor with me and my Wife. I had "honor" so I'm justified to rise up against you da-da-da (not YOU!! LOL), I'm just sayin'. and I wasn't even walking with the Lord then. I had met him and walked away to do my life thing because I know how to do it the right way! Blah blah blahblahblah. And I gave some people a really hard time over trying to have honor. I did think I was a good man, and I used that. It was empowering.

It still makes me feel good. I did do the right thing sometimes. (LOL). Then the Lord decided that I had wasted too much time not living for Him. And Our gracious and loving heavenly Father, and Jesus, came to me in total love...to chop me down. And they did it. I was too big in my heart. Too tall. It was the worst series of events that had ever happened to me in my life. It wasn't just a punch in the face from dad this time, much worse. But! Again! I listened to my Father. Now I realize that it was the best thing that could have happened to me. I owe God lots of glory for saving my life and teaching me about real honor with Him. To walk in love towards our Brothers and Sisters.

Love them enough to let them be right. Love them enough to pray forgiveness for them as they crucify you. I get this now. Sometimes I feel as if, it would be impossible to offend me, of late. I did an extra fast and the Lord enriched me. However, my flesh has had a lot more training in having a short fuse than I have in walking in love. I am getting better though! You shoulda heard me when I first came here to this board! I think I'm coming along ok. This is one of my struggles. I don't know if anyone else has seenany improvement with me. And I don't really care either because that's not walking in love. When He poured out His Spirit upon me...it was like, He gave me a teeny piece of His heart. I guess I'm gettin carried away now, Lol :rofl2
Hey Edward,
The first part of your post made me laugh. About your father teaching you a good lesson!
The rest was pretty sobering.

Honor. Yeah. Honor has to be earned, not demanded.
Dignity. You say you don't see much of it. Niether do I. It seems to be the opposite nowadays.
Each man for himself. Get what you can when you can. Dog eat dog world, as they say. There would be much more to say, as you well know.

I've had some of the same experiences. Sometimes we have to be chopped down to be able to be built back up the right way --- with the right foundation. God's foundation.

As far as you changing...
Maybe you've changed.
I don't know.
To me you've Always been a very nice Brother in Christ.
 
Reba stole my scriptures :cries :lol
If one is speaking of pure religion then all we need is Christ and the Holy Spirit foe this reason:

John 1:1 in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:2 the same was in the beginning with God.
John 1:3 all things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
John 1:4 in him was life; and the life was the light of men.
John 1:5 and the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Romans 10:10 for with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

The biggest deception Satan can use is to confuse the unlearned mind. God said his people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. You forget me and my word and I will forget you and your children, Hosea 4:6-9. This is a pretty profound statement that holds so much truth. This is why this world is in the shape it is in today with so many religions claiming they are the true religion and only they will go to heaven and those who do not conform to their ways will go to hell.

1 Peter 4:11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles, (wisdom) of God, if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth, that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ to whom be praise and dominion forever and ever, Amen.

We need the pure teachings of Christ through the Holy Spirit teaching us all things and bringing those things back to our rememberance when we need them.
 
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