BTI said:
Wasn't it you that said Christ wasn't human?
No that would not be me.
Can you quote me?
"Dogs cannot beget cats, monkeys cannot beget rabbits, fish do not beget birds, lizards do not beget turtles, yet God's only begotten Son is a human?"
This certainly appears to be a rhetorical denial that Christ was human?
BTI said:
If he is one person he can't be God and man BOTH because in order to be a man you've got to be a human person and to be God you've got to be a divine person. That's 2 persons
My you have reasoned that out well haven't you
yup
God in a box is what you have
At least my "God box" is bigger than the one you used when you likened the issue of Jesus' birth to the nature of how animals breed, which, if anything, is a much cruder form of "human reasoning" than what you accuse me of (and a blasphemous enough thought to make any decent Jew who came across it jump up from their computer terminal and tear their clothing)
God's spirit was so united with Christ such that spirit, body, and soul were one person. I know that's a bit much for you to grasp but that is what the scriptures tell us. It is beyond your abitilty to reason just as it is beyond your ability to understand that Jesus Christ was not half man and half God but fully man and fully God
But it is not beyond my ability to understand that what you are saying is simply a contradiction. Every offspring is a genetic mixture of 2 parents. If 2 different species were able to produce an offspring, that offspring could not be "fully" either parent's species. It would be a hybrid. I am simply taking the same reasoning you used to it's logical conclusion, which you don't. You constantly employ what you disdain as "human reasoning" until you realize it's actually proving you wrong, then you pull the string on your imaginary "escape hatch" which denies that reason has any part in this.
This is what the scriptures tell us but you with your logic and reasoning are above the God you have created in your mind
Rather, if there is a God who created us, He also created what we call logic and reasoning and that is one of the principle characteristics that seperates us from the animals. It is how we differentiate between what is true and what is not. It is what organized religion has always feared and tried to convince us we shouldn't envoke when it comes to theological questions. That opposition to "human reasoning" is what put the "dark" in the Dark Ages. You fail to understand that you are also using reason, (as there is no possibility of discussion apart from it), but you employ it inconsistently. You only reason till you realize you have painted yourself into a corner then you try and relocate the whole issue to some limbo where you claim reason doesn't apply.
He is no God at all but a creation of your mind
And your God is the creation of the minds of men who provided you with the creeds by which you interpret the bible.
Why don't you trust in what he tells us about himself?
Where does he tell us Jesus is "fully man and fully God"? That Jesus is "God the Son"? That God is "3 Persons in one", etc? What you are giving me is creedal language and this creedal language is a result of REASONING that tries to fit scripture together with no contradiction. I just believe the reasoning of the individuals you are, for some reason, obligated to follow, is incorrect.
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: My math is bad? You are inventing your own math just to make this come out the way you want it to. And what does "Spirit not taking up space" have to do with anything?