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Eating Out on Sunday

As for real life, I work on the sabbath. I'll admit it. No matter what day you (or I) consider to be the sabbath, I will work on it often. And it's not because my bosses are non-Christians who don't care and force me to do it against my will. I work for a Christian company that hires Christians and openly practices Christian values in a very fundamental Christian town. But I don't feel in the least convicted nor guilty about it and no one seems to judge or condemn any of us for this. And our work has little to nothing to do with facilitating worship or preaching the word as would a pastor's or a worship team's "jobs" on the sabbath. Yet even the most fundamentalist of Christians and the most Judaic of Messianics do not condemn us. This is one example of why I don't think the command to keep the sabbath holy was meant to be taken to such extremes as worrying that you may be putting a stumbling block in front of someone if you go out to lunch after church.
 
tim-from-pa said:
Good grief! I have to stay more diligent myself here! I just noticed this thread is in the lounge again, and we should not debate or misbehave here just as a new-comer coming into a service would not (or should not) hear parishioners debating. I'm not saying any more here, either. At this rate, I may not say much if anything at all on this whole board. I mean, can't we be more discreet than to introduce a topic and/or debate in an area that is not meant to be one? :rolleyes
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Yike, I forgot too. Very sorry! :blush
 
Would someone open a NEW TESTAMENT and show me where Jesus refused to eat on all Sundays?
It would probably make Moses happy to know that Christians are trying to go back to the Law of the Torah that was given to JEWS, but, i dont think God is really happy for His Body of Christ to be always going back to Moses to try to undo the New Convenient.
I would go back to the OT to try to find a reason to stop doing everything to prove how advanced my Self Righteousness is...., but then, id have to just get rid of the Cross, first.
Sorry.
Thats a no.
 
Kidron said:
Would someone open a NEW TESTAMENT and show me where Jesus refused to eat on all Sundays?
It would probably make Moses happy to know that Christians are trying to go back to the Law of the Torah that was given to JEWS, but, i dont think God is really happy for His Body of Christ to be always going back to Moses to try to undo the New Convenient.
I would go back to the OT to try to find a reason to stop doing everything to prove how advanced my Self Righteousness is...., but then, id have to just get rid of the Cross, first.
Sorry.
Thats a no.
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You have been instructed in the ways of grace my friend!
 
Miss Spaulding said:
Wouldn't you agree that there is some level of 'work' involved when it comes to getting dressed, eating breakfast, downing a cup of coffee, getting in the car and driving to church? ...All of this breaks that commandment.

I personally have no conviction of eating out after church if I fancy it. But even if I choose not to eat out but head home instead...I'd end up doing more 'work' at home by preparing myself a meal than I would be in entering a restaurant and having a chef prepare my meal for me.

I'm as zealous about obeying God's word as the next fellow, but there are some things I'm just not going to sweat. This would be one of them.

Now, I do agree that nobody, especially professing Christians, she'd actually work at their place of employment on Sunday if they can really help it. That I do agree with.
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With this kind of reasoning then the Hebrews would have been required to either wear what they were wearing the day before, or just not get dressed at all, depending on what they wore to bed the night before. Sure there are some things that would be considered "work" while other things are not.

Though as someone else alluded to, Jesus came and identified that we should be adhering to the spirit of the law, not the specific words themselves. He created us as beings who require rest from time to time, otherwise there would be no need for us to sleep. It is up to us to understand the spirit of what He wants us to do.
 
tim-from-pa said:
Good grief! I have to stay more diligent myself here! I just noticed this thread is in the lounge again, and we should not debate or misbehave here just as a new-comer coming into a service would not (or should not) hear parishioners debating. I'm not saying any more here, either. At this rate, I may not say much if anything at all on this whole board. I mean, can't we be more discreet than to introduce a topic and/or debate in an area that is not meant to be one? :rolleyes
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We can discuss a topic without it becoming a full-blown debate. I started this here to have an open discussion, not a debate.
 
Kidron said:
Would someone open a NEW TESTAMENT and show me where Jesus refused to eat on all Sundays?
It would probably make Moses happy to know that Christians are trying to go back to the Law of the Torah that was given to JEWS, but, i dont think God is really happy for His Body of Christ to be always going back to Moses to try to undo the New Convenient.
I would go back to the OT to try to find a reason to stop doing everything to prove how advanced my Self Righteousness is...., but then, id have to just get rid of the Cross, first.
Sorry.
Thats a no.
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I didn't see where anyone said anything about not eating on Sunday? Moses' Law never says this either. Not sure what you are referring to. :chin
 
Knotical said:
With this kind of reasoning then the Hebrews would have been required to either wear what they were wearing the day before, or just not get dressed at all, depending on what they wore to bed the night before. Sure there are some things that would be considered "work" while other things are not.
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You can have a relaxing day and still do things like get dressed and make a light meal, or whatever. So yeah, I wouldn't think a day of rest means staying in bed doing nothing at all.
 
And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: Mark 2:27 KJV
 
Now if only I could stop living as if I was made for the sabbath. (Ie, tendency towards laziness)
 
Knotical said:
We can discuss a topic without it becoming a full-blown debate. I started this here to have an open discussion, not a debate.
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Well maybe that was your intention, but as a mod you well know that Sabbath-like subjects are very volatile subjects, particularly as the Law was mentioned and because of different interpretations. Now I would say an exchange of apple pie recipes are usually less volatile for a relaxing lounge atmosphere. The most heat from that subject is the temp of the oven.
 
Knotical said:
With this kind of reasoning then the Hebrews would have been required to either wear what they were wearing the day before, or just not get dressed at all, depending on what they wore to bed the night before. Sure there are some things that would be considered "work" while other things are not.

Though as someone else alluded to, Jesus came and identified that we should be adhering to the spirit of the law, not the specific words themselves. He created us as beings who require rest from time to time, otherwise there would be no need for us to sleep. It is up to us to understand the spirit of what He wants us to do.
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I enjoy fishing, hunting, hiking, camping, gardening, cooking, and farming for hobbies. Some do these things for a living. Therefore, would it then be work for me to do these things on the Sabbath? I can see where legalism can be taken to the extreme.
 
tim-from-pa said:
Well maybe that was your intention, but as a mod you well know that Sabbath-like subjects are very volatile subjects, particularly as the Law was mentioned and because of different interpretations. Now I would say an exchange of apple pie recipes are usually less volatile for a relaxing lounge atmosphere. The most heat from that subject is the temp of the oven.
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You are correct that Sabbath topics can be heated but in reality, there's absolutely no reason any subject shouldn't be able to be openly discussed without becoming a debate, heated or otherwise. Especially among Christian brothers and sisters. But it does seem there are some that are just unwilling to engage in discussion without belittling or otherwise challenging others to put them on the defensive.
 
questdriven said:
Now if only I could stop living as if I was made for the sabbath. (Ie, tendency towards laziness)
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I dont know your situation or your church, and im not asking for a testimony...but, if you are caught up in worrying about being good enough to make it into heaven, or if you cant enjoy your Christianity because all the Bible does is make you feel condemned..
Or, if worrying about Sunday, or W-Baptism, or obsessing on what the Book Of James says, while ignoring all of what Paul wrote, has become your Theology, then, i would suggest in a friendly way that your denomination is your curse and you might go and find something real.
 
Kidron said:
I dont know your situation or your church, and im not asking for a testimony...but, if you are caught up in worrying about being good enough to make it into heaven, or if you cant enjoy your Christianity because all the Bible does is make you feel condemned..
Or, if worrying about Sunday, or W-Baptism, or obsessing on what the Book Of James says, while ignoring all of what Paul wrote, has become your Theology, then, i would suggest in a friendly way that your denomination is your curse and you might go and find something real.
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Oh, no worries so far as my salvation is concerned =)
Just very prone to stumbling in various areas and battling carnal desires such as sloth.
 
Perhaps this topic deserves to have another thread in a different category
I'm so new, and still figuring out how things work here.
I am also discovering just how easy it can be to go off topic! LOL
Surprising--as easy as falling off a log.
:bump
 
Knotical said:
With this kind of reasoning then the Hebrews would have been required to either wear what they were wearing the day before, or just not get dressed at all, depending on what they wore to bed the night before. Sure there are some things that would be considered "work" while other things are not.

Though as someone else alluded to, Jesus came and identified that we should be adhering to the spirit of the law, not the specific words themselves. He created us as beings who require rest from time to time, otherwise there would be no need for us to sleep. It is up to us to understand the spirit of what He wants us to do.
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I was referring to the OP, which I should have quoted, but I was on my phone and that makes quoting a little difficult.

It's definitely not my 'way of thinking'.
 
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