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[_ Old Earth _] Empirical Proof of a Theological Universe

RoadDebris

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You read it correctly: empirical proof that physical existence is the product of intelligent design. DNA contains a specifically complex message. By experience we know that messages are never the product of naturalistic causes. They only come from intelligent sources. Given this fact and in light of the volume of information in the DNA sequence, we can see that the code carried in the genome of all organisms has an intelligent source.

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Ah, thank you for helping to confirm the existence of my Pagan Deities, RoadDerbris[grins].:clap

Seriously though[but really, it works both ways, you know[snicker]. Oh the irony, right?:lol], by using this logic, you may run the risk of making your "intelligent designer"[why not just say "God"? After all, it's not as if anybody with a brain thinks that Christian advocates of "Intelligent Design"/Creationism are considering the possibility of anyone or anything ELSE filling the position.]look basically not very much different than any common human designer[or perhaps worse, as modern human engineers can now design some things that are superior to their natural originals...like eyeballs, for example. Besides, where are you making the connection between D.N.A.[what are your thoughts on R.N.A.?]as we know it, and the weird vastness of the entire Universe? Also, where are you getting your scientific information from?
I look forward to hearing back from you[smile].
 
What pagan gods are you aware of? I'd be fine with a goddess. Too many patriarchical deities already. And since . . . IF there were evidence of "an intelligent designer", any god or goddess, from our past, would be equally valid. I'm hoping for the gods and goddesses of the Norse belief systems. Perhaps a nice Celtic goddess like Bridget. :yes
 
Good morning Deavonreye[smile].
Ooooh...this thread has the delicious potential of getting really deep.:)
I fear through that much of what I type will be seen as a violation of this forums terms of agreement[too heretical, "promoting" another religion, too offensive to the Christians, etc.etc.], and I've already made the annoying discovery that if the computer thinks I've taken too much time typing out a post[and of course it would have to be a huge post for a subject like this. A smaller post probably wouldn't do the topic justic, at least in my opinion.], that it will keep my post from being added. Would you like for me to just give you my email address in a personal message so we can discuss these things with greater freedom[If not, I'll understand.]?
 
Quite true, Green Man. Further detailed discussion could be a no-no here, so I sent a PM. :)

However, in general, the fact is that when an "intelligent designer" comes up, it still does not give evidence for the christian god. And that is the main point that I would relay to the OP.
 
Quite true, Green Man. Further detailed discussion could be a no-no here, so I sent a PM. :)

However, in general, the fact is that when an "intelligent designer" comes up, it still does not give evidence for the christian god. And that is the main point that I would relay to the OP.
of course not, creationist acknowledge that one cant via science prove god neither can one disprove God.

i will if anyone is interested post what the creation statement on that is from a good creationist site.
 
Feel free to, jason.

When discussing "proof", however, . . . "not being able to prove that something DOESN'T exist" can be a whole new can of worms. You would [then] have to believe the veracity of many outlandish claims. What IS of value is taking a claim, testing for it, testing it again [and again, and again, etc] to see what data you get from it. If it holds that the claim is faulty, then there should be no fault in those who choose to hold a stance from the data provided.
 
Good afternoon[smile].
Did you ever get that email I sent you last night, Deavonreye?
 
Good afternoon[smile].
Did you ever get that email I sent you last night, Deavonreye?

I didn't, . . .but after seeing this post, I looked in the spam folder, and there it was.

And I have replied.
 
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