Eternal torment or Annihilation? What happens to the Wicked

[GodspromisesRyes]

Mar 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:


Mar 9:44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.


Mar 9:45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:


Mar 9:46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.


Mar 9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:


Mar 9:48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.


Mar 9:49 ¶ For every one shall be salted with fire, and every sacrifice shall be salted with salt.


Mar 9:50 Salt [is] good: but if the salt have lost his saltness, wherewith will ye season it? Have salt in yourselves, and have peace one with another.

 

[jasoncran]

for something that is only allegorical , the lord wrote very descriptive of supossed physical death.

is being judged by fire(see the ot on that) exactly a nice way to die. quick and painless. hmm being burned alive. the furnance that the three men were to tossed into and instead them pagans who tossed them in their are burned alive

is being stabbed in the stomach and death by sepsis exactly quick. for this see the chapters on the fall of judah and the captivity. i think that some were stabbed this way, is it written in thier but likely yes.

having your bones broken all of them before hit the ground and eaten humane and quick.


that shows the wrath of god.

 

[Rick W]

Well, we could put this issue of God's judgment into perspective if we care to learn anything at all from the past.

Adam is kicked out of the Garden separated from God because of Adam's pride and death entered into the world. Under our perception of fairness would that be considered harsh? And we, many generations later are still under that same judgment, separated from God through our pride we grow old and die. Harsh judgment for the sin of one? Fair? Still, that's quite a warning to mankind I should think. Death entered into the world. No matter how one cares to interpret that it's one heckuva warning to mankind.
Strike 1

Next we see The Flood. God judges man as totally corrupt and wipes out every man, woman and child. Didn't matter if they heard of God or not. All were wiped from the earth except of course Noah and his kin. Would that judgment be considered harsh under our terms of fairness? I don't think I'd have a hard time finding people who think it's a bit harsh. Still, that's quite a warning to mankind I should think. And again, whether one interprets The Flood as global, local or allegorical the message is still there front and center big time.
Strike 2

Christ died for our sins, is buried and rose again.
So mankind gets still yet another chance. Again. And Christ is God's only begotten Son no less. God judges mankind worthy of His love to the point He gives His only Son. After all that happened before, after man turns his back on God again and again, even after the two previous judgments mentioned above...

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

How in the world can we believe a third strike will carry no more penalty than what we may feel is fair? Are we yet so oblivious to God's love and His righteous judgments from the past that we, through our own pride, wish to impose our own sense of fairness concerning this third and last strike? Somehow I just can't imagine this last judgment will be anything we will be comfortable with.

 

[Hobie]

I think the Flood gives us a perspective of what will happen to the wicked in the end..

 

[adam332]

Think of when Jesus raised Lazarus from death. Jesus didn't say that Lazarus was in heaven (or hell)... if Lazarus had already been judged, it wouldn't have been fair at all to bring Lazarus back.

I'm in agreement with your post, but I especially like the logic of this point. It not just Lazarus The OT and NT both have people being raised from the dead, and your point applies for them all.

What is the point of a judgment day where he separates, the sheep/goats, wheat/tares, etc... if everyone has there own judgment day upon death? That would make the promise of this future day pointless.