[_ Old Earth _] EVOLUTION - A BELIEVER'S PERSPECTIVE

[zeke]

Agreed.

It's tempting to delete every post that follows until zeke posts his relevant credentials and what his day job is.

Are you posting as a mod or just posting? And why would you delete my posts - I have presented my 'credentials'. I am not the one boasting about unverifiable "degrees from many universities' to back up my posts - those who make such claims can be asked to clarify what those 'many degrees' relate to - yes?

 

[zeke]

Can you tell me where I have made my politics known and what you know them to be?

Your claim to atheism.

 

[zeke]

Why do you suppose that citing a four-year old article is sufficient to establish your implied claim that most scientists agree with it?

What has changed in 4 years that negates their research? Please be specific.

 

[Free]

Are you posting as a mod or just posting? And why would you delete my posts - I have presented my 'credentials'. I am not the one boasting about unverifiable "degrees from many universities' to back up my posts - those who make such claims can be asked to clarify what those 'many degrees' relate to - yes?

So what are your credentials? I have never seen them and two of the main posters in the Science forums apparently haven't either.

 

[zeke]

You made that clear by sprinkling your posts with all sorts of misconceptions about science in general and biology in particular.

Which posts - please be specific - I think you are mistaken - remember, the Darwinian mythology you float is not science.

You're citing a man who suggests that his "designer" might be a "space alien."

I have asked your to support that statement before but you could only present more silence.

 

[zeke]

So what are your credentials? I have never seen them and two of the main posters in the Science forums apparently haven't either.

LOL - Barbarian just commented on it in his post before your last post - are you following the discussion?

 

[Free]

I have asked your to support that statement before but you could only present more silence.

How about instead of posting such snide remarks, you actually research the quote Barbarian gave you which supports his statement. It isn't difficult:

http://www.arn.org/docs/johnson/scirel98.htm

 

[zeke]

How about instead of posting such snide remarks, you actually research the quote Barbarian gave you which supports his statement. It isn't difficult:

http://www.arn.org/docs/johnson/scirel98.htm

Can you point out where his statement is supported?

 

[Free]

LOL - Barbarian just commented on it in his post before your last post - are you following the discussion?

I am very much following the discussion on the last couple of pages and no where does Barbarian comment on any credentials of yours in said post. That is the post where he asks what your credentials are.

 

[Free]

Can you point out where his statement is supported?

You have got to be trolling. What don't you understand here?

 

[zeke]

I am very much following the discussion on the last couple of pages and no where does Barbarian comment on any credentials of yours in said post. That is the post where he asks what your credentials are.

And I told him what they were.

 

[zeke]

You have got to be trolling. What don't you understand here?

I didn't see Barb's accusation supported - did you? No trolling - just discussing.

 

[Free]

And I told him what they were.

Okay, so it should be very easy for you right now to simply copy and paste because I don't see any credentials anywhere. Please clarify this for me.

 

[zeke]

Okay, so it should be very easy for you right now to simply copy and paste because I don't see any credentials anywhere. Please clarify this for me.

Sure---"I am a seeker of scientific facts and I find very few facts in Darwinism".

 

[Free]

I didn't see Barb's accusation supported - did you? No trolling - just discussing.

Please follow along:

You're citing a man who suggests that his "designer" might be a "space alien."

"For this purpose, it does not matter whether the intelligence is thought to belong to God, or to some alien race of intelligent beings, or to some entity we cannot yet imagine." (Phillip Johnson, posting in the ARN discussion forum)

Taken from: http://www.christianforums.net/showthread.php?t=42777&p=652656&viewfull=1#post652656 )

You're citing a man who suggests that his "designer" might be a "space alien."

I have asked your to support that statement before but you could only present more silence.

You said you've asked him "to support that statement before" and accuse him of presenting "silence" despite him just having supported it. And I don't think that is the first time I've seen him give that quote as support.

So what is it that you don't understand?

If you can't accept his quote as support, then anything you quote will no longer be considered support.

 

[Free]

Sure---"I am a seeker of scientific facts and I find very few facts in Darwinism".

Wow, you have got to be kidding. I thought that might have been what you meant and I just wanted to make sure.

Those are not credentials, not even close.

 

[lordkalvan]

Your claim to atheism.

Newsflash: atheism has little or nothing to do with politics.

 

[lordkalvan]

What has changed in 4 years that negates their research? Please be specific.

Please read what I asked and try answering that instead. I made no comment at all about whether the research was or was not negated. You might also want to try dealing with the other points raised.

 

[zeke]

So what is it that you don't understand?

It is obvious from the context that Johnson doesn't "suggest" a designer is a space alien - is that what you think he is saying?

 

[zeke]

Wow, you have got to be kidding. I thought that might have been what you meant and I just wanted to make sure.

Those are not credentials, not even close.

So you did see my post - why did you deny seeing it? They are credentials and I think it works for a medium where a high school dropout could claim to be a PhD scientist.