[_ Old Earth _] Evolution insinuates bestiality

[Heidi]

The ToE says that we share a common ancestor with modern apes and monkies, and that we are descended from an ape-like creature.

That common ancestor was an ape too though. Just not one of the contemporary ape species.

So what does the word "common" mean in that phrase? A common ancestor connotates an ancestor common to both humans and apes, otherwise the word "common" wouldn't even be in there. It would simply be called an ancestor and there would be no need for a "missing link."

You have also contradicted Thanatos who said that evolutionists don't believe that man descended from apes. So which is it? :o So it would be nice if evolutionists could get their stories straight. :wink:

 

[Frost Giant]

Is it really that hard to comprehend? We are apes that have descended from a previous form of ape but aren't the same kind of apes we see around us today. We share a common ancestor with modern apes. We aren't descended from modern apes. Nobody has trouble making up their mind. You simply have trouble with reading comprehension.

 

[bibleberean]

Is it really that hard to comprehend? We are apes that have descended from a previous form of ape but aren't the same kind of apes we see around us today. We share a common ancestor with modern apes. We aren't descended from modern apes. Nobody has trouble making up their mind. You simply have trouble with reading comprehension.

We are apes that have descended from a previous form of ape but aren't the same kind of apes we see around us today

Speak for yourself.

Genesis 1:26-28 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

 

[Frost Giant]

So why couldn't we have evolved into his image? Maybe he rigged ape evolution to produce us.

 

[bibleberean]

So why couldn't we have evolved into his image? Maybe he rigged ape evolution to produce us.

God could have evolved us into His image but the bible is clear that He did not do it that way.

Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Read Genesis Chapters one and two.

 

[Frost Giant]

The Bible also says that there was a flood that covered the entire Earth. Nobody has ever found any conclusive evidence there was a flood.

 

[Quid]

So why couldn't we have evolved into his image? Maybe he rigged ape evolution to produce us.

God could have evolved us into His image but the bible is clear that He did not do it that way.

Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Read Genesis Chapters one and two.

What process did God use to create man though?

 

[Heidi]

So why couldn't we have evolved into his image? Maybe he rigged ape evolution to produce us.

God could have evolved us into His image but the bible is clear that He did not do it that way.

Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Read Genesis Chapters one and two.

What process did God use to create man though?

You mean, by what process that humans believe, did God use to create man. Is that correct? :-? Because God told us exactly how he formed man but people who use human reasoning instead of spiritual reasoning only understand what makes sense to them on a human level, not a spiritual one. "God's ways are not our ways." You need to believe that too before you can believe that God formed man out of dust. But so far, I haven't found anything in God's wod that you do believe.

 

[Heidi]

I also want to ask you, Quid, by what process did God create the stars, sun, moon, planets, cells, micro-organisms, wild beasts, birds, sky, plants, and the earth? Nevertheless they exist. Did animals create those too? :o

 

[Quid]

You mean, by what process that humans believe, did God use to create man. Is that correct? :-? Because God told us exactly how he formed man but people who use human reasoning instead of spiritual reasoning only understand what makes sense to them on a human level, not a spiritual one. "God's ways are not our ways." You need to believe that too before you can believe that God formed man out of dust. But so far, I haven't found anything in God's wod that you do believe.

So what you're saying is, you don't know, but you've interpreted the bible how you want it to mean.

Are you ever going to tell me where it says God specifically breathed spirtual or physical life into man?

 

[Loren Michael]

here, let me try-

Heidi, where does it say God specifically breathed spirtual or physical life into man?

i'm kind of curious myself. :-?

 

[bibleberean]

God created living things to produce after it's kind not to evolve into something else.

God created man after "His image". He did it just the way the bible says He did it.

I see no reason to give any more of an explanation than the bible.

It isn't up to me to prove it is true. People either believe it or they don't.

I don't lose any sleep over the beliefs of the lost.

Genesis 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

God created man out of the dust of the ground and breathed life into His nostrils.

Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

That is how it happened. 8-)

I don't owe any of the skeptics or fools (atheists) anymore explanation than that.

This is a Christian forum. :smt023

 

[Barbarian]

You should remember that most Christians don't take Genesis as literal.

After all, it doesn't say that populations of living things don't evolve. In fact it doesn't deny evolution anywhere therein. That's just something people added to it, to suit their own ideas.

 

[Quid]

Are you ever going to tell me where it says God specifically breathed spirtual or physical life into man?

 

[Vanaka]

You should remember that most Christians don't take Genesis as literal.

you can hardly call them "christian" now can you?

it doesn't say that populations of living things don't evolve

yes it does.

In fact it doesn't deny evolution anywhere therein.

yes it does.

 

[Barbarian]

Barbarian observes:
You should remember that most Christians don't take Genesis as literal.

you can hardly call them "christian" now can you?

That's like saying you can hardly call fish with fins, "fish." Only a minority of Christians think Genesis is literal. If anyone would qualify as "not Christian", it would be the ones who do not accept what Christians believe.

Barbarian observes:
it doesn't say that populations of living things don't evolve

yes it does.

Show us. Please don't bother with "Yes, I know it doesn't really say what I claim, but I think it means it anyway." If you can't find a verse that says populations of living things don't evolve, then be a man and admit it.

Barbarian observes:
In fact it doesn't deny evolution anywhere therein.

yes it does.

Show us. Same warning applies.

 

[Heidi]

Barbarian observes:
You should remember that most Christians don't take Genesis as literal.

you can hardly call them "christian" now can you?

That's like saying you can hardly call fish with fins, "fish." Only a minority of Christians think Genesis is literal. If anyone would qualify as "not Christian", it would be the ones who do not accept what Christians believe.

Barbarian observes:
it doesn't say that populations of living things don't evolve

[quote:07ea9]yes it does.

Show us. Please don't bother with "Yes, I know it doesn't really say what I claim, but I think it means it anyway." If you can't find a verse that says populations of living things don't evolve, then be a man and admit it.

Barbarian observes:
In fact it doesn't deny evolution anywhere therein.

yes it does.

Show us. Same warning applies.[/quote:07ea9]

All born again Christians take Genesis literally! :angel: Jesus says we have one teacher and that is the Christ. John 1:1-3 also says that Jesus, God, and the HS are the Word. So Christians who don't take Genesis lieterally don't believe Jesus either.

But man sure invents ideas about how we were created! I'm sure there are as many theories about how we were created as there are people in the world. Man's desire to be omniscient allows him to buy into the fact that he knows better than God does. In your dreams. :wink:

 

[Heidi]

And as far as evolving is concerned, you're contradicting the scientists who say we are in a state of decay. But the state of the world doesn't contradict those scientists! We are closer to annihilating ourselves than ever before and that gets closer in each generation. And those "Christians" who don't take Genesis literally and think we're evolving apparently don't believe Revelations either. They put their faith in the fallible minds of scientists over God.

 

[Quid]

Biological evolution is not the same thing as entropy.

Surely you can at least understand the difference between physics and biology.

 

[bibleberean]

I take Genesis literally and so did Jesus Christ.

God "breathed the breath of life into man" God did not evolve men from apes or a common ancestor.

Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Jesus quotes Genesis literally...

Matthew 19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,

Jesus is referring to this verse.

Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.


Matthew 19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

Jesus is quoting from these verses...

Genesis 2:21-24 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

I am not ashamed of the bible or Genesis and least of all Jesus Christ who is God manifest in the flesh...