[_ Old Earth _] Evolution insinuates bestiality

[Quid]

Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

I'm waiting for a single person who quotes this to show me where it specifically states physical or spiritual life.

 

[bibleberean]

Keep waiting. God created man from the dust of the ground and breathed life into him.

Take it or leave it. :

 

[Quid]

So basically you're just interpreting it to mean what you want. Which, last I checked, was the last thing Creationists did. All I hear from them is how everything is clearly stated in the bible.

Or do you deny that spiritual and physical life are different things?

I do not deny that God could have created man from dust. That still does not disprove evolution, as evolution is only the process through which life advances. It doesn't address what starts it.

Or do you actually know how God created man from dust?

 

[bibleberean]

So basically you're just interpreting it to mean what you want. Which, last I checked, was the last thing Creationists did. All I hear from them is how everything is clearly stated in the bible.

Or do you deny that spiritual and physical life are different things?

I do not deny that God could have created man from dust. That still does not disprove evolution, as evolution is only the process through which life advances. It doesn't address what starts it.

Or do you actually know how God created man from dust?

This too funny. I don't know how God created man exactly but I am reading the bible for what it says.

I am sorry but I find this hilarious! :

Man was not a living soul until God breathed life into His nostrils.

Adam was the first man and Eve was the first woman.

Genesis 3:20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.

When a person doesn't take Genesis as literal the entire bible is undermined.

Salvation is determined by the fact that Jesus came from heaven to pay for the curse brought on mankind by the first man...

1 Corinthians 15:45-47 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

I pity people who are so biblically illiterate.

 

[Quid]

This too funny. I don't know how God created man exactly but I am reading the bible for what it says.

God could have just as easily given a man a soul after he created him. Is it so difficult to believe that Adam and Eve were possibly the first Humans with souls?

It's good to see that you at least don't deny interpreting the bible so it means what you want it to.

 

[bibleberean]

This too funny. I don't know how God created man exactly but I am reading the bible for what it says.

God could have just as easily given a man a soul after he created him. Is it so difficult to believe that Adam and Eve were possibly the first Humans with souls?

It's good to see that you at least don't deny interpreting the bible so it means what you want it to.

You are the one who denies taking the bible for what it says not me.
:smt102

 

[Quid]

My beliefs allow for me to interpret the bible and reconcile it with science.

Creationists are the ones who claim we should read it word for word. So show me the word that says God physically created man. Emphasis on the word physical.

 

[Heidi]

My beliefs allow for me to interpret the bible and reconcile it with science.

Creationists are the ones who claim we should read it word for word. So show me the word that says God physically created man. Emphasis on the word physical.

The problem is that you change the bible to fit what scientists say instead of changing what scientists say to fit the bible. So it is quite clear that your faith is in science, not in God.

And saying that the word of God is not all true, is making up your own God and your own bible. Your god is therefore, imaginary and has nothing to do with the jesus or God of the bible.

 

[Quid]

My beliefs allow for me to interpret the bible and reconcile it with science.

Creationists are the ones who claim we should read it word for word. So show me the word that says God physically created man. Emphasis on the word physical.

The problem is that you change the bible to fit what scientists say instead of changing what scientists say to fit the bible. So it is quite clear that your faith is in science, not in God.

And saying that the word of God is not all true, is making up your own God and your own bible. Your god is therefore, imaginary and has nothing to do with the jesus or God of the bible.

Any time now. Until then I'll go ahead and accept that when God breathed life into man, that's when he gave him his soul, and be no less correct.

 

[bibleberean]

My beliefs allow me to reconcile science and the bible.

God created man in His image and likeness. I didn't see Him do it.

Others believe man evolved from lower forms of life into man. They didn't see it happen.

Some people call evolution science others call the theory asinine.

The bible does not teach evolution.

1 Timothy 6:20-21 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen. The first to Timothy was written from Laodicea, which is the chiefest city of Phrygia Pacatiana.

Proverbs 17:24 Wisdom is before him that hath understanding; but the eyes of a fool are in the ends of the earth.

 

[Quid]

The bible doesn't teach computer science either. edited... don't use caps...
Biological evolution is fact. We've seen DNA change, we've seen totally new DNA come into existence. What we haven't seen is what created life in the first place.

 

[bibleberean]

The word of God declares how life came into existence. That is what I do know without a doubt. Evolution is a false science and no one has

John 1:1-3 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Genesis says God created everything in 6 days. God said it. I believe it.

End of story... :D

 

[Quid]

Yes, God created life. He used evolution to create Humans. He gave a soul to Humans to make Man.

And other translations say it was six periods. But it's fun to ignore those I suppose.

 

[Guest]

Yes, God created life. He used evolution to create Humans. He gave a soul to Humans to make Man.

And other translations say it was six periods. But it's fun to ignore those I suppose.

The word used in Genesis is "yom", which can have many different meanings. It's used throughout the Bible repeatedly as "day", "age", "period of daylight", and so on, just like the word "day" is used in modern english. However, as it's used in the account of creation, set alongside an ordinal number, it never appears anywhere else in the Bible as anything other than a 24 hour period. So it's pretty unlikely that the word itself is meant to be construed as anything but a literal day.

However, metaphor and parable are used many times in the Bible. It's not unreasonable to presume that the entirety of Genesis 1 is meant to just be an allegory to show that God made everything, and isn't meant to be read as a scientific account of exactly what happened when and in which order.

Really, I don't see why it's so difficult to accept certain chunks of the Bible as metaphorical or allegorical when others are so digested with no problems. I mean, look at Genesis 6:8 - "Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord." Is anyone arguing that this means that Noah literally looked into God's eyes and found a big wad of grace in there? Of course not. And you don't need to deny the Bible as the infalliable word of God to realize that that phrase is meant as metaphor. The phrase is a poetic truth, not a literal truth. Why can't the account of creation be the same way? How are you to determine which, exactly, are the literal truths in the Bible and which are the metaphors? How can you tell if you're wrong?

The options, as best I can tell, are these:

- Accept every last word in the Bible as the literal truth. If the Bible says that Noah found grace in God's eyes, then by golly, he looked in God's eyes and found grace.

- Accept that everything in the Bible has an element of literal truth, but the exact details may be poetic or allegorical. If the Bible says that God created the earth in six days, then the important thing is that God created the Earth. How he did so, precisely, isn't important, and the Bible doesn't try to elaborate on this point.

As a corollary to the second option, since there's no official meta-bible to tell you exactly how to interpret things, it should be assumed that you could always be mistaken about the exact details of the literal truth associated with each poetic truth communicated by the Bible. Anything else would be a pretty gregarious act of hubris, it seems.

 

[Quid]

Yes, God created life. He used evolution to create Humans. He gave a soul to Humans to make Man.

And other translations say it was six periods. But it's fun to ignore those I suppose.

The word used in Genesis is "yom", which can have many different meanings. It's used throughout the Bible repeatedly as "day", "age", "period of daylight", and so on, just like the word "day" is used in modern english. However, as it's used in the account of creation, set alongside an ordinal number, it never appears anywhere else in the Bible as anything other than a 24 hour period. So it's pretty unlikely that the word itself is meant to be construed as anything but a literal day.

Ah. My mistake.