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[_ Old Earth _] Evolutionism and Evolution; some essential differences

brujaq said:
Genesis 7:22 ..
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Genesis 7:22 And all things wherein there is the breath of life on the earth, died.

Notice that eretz is translated as "earth", meaning "land." So everything that breathed in the area died.

But this still doesn't explain how Noah got all those whales on board, which is what happened if you take the story as a literal history.
 
Barbarian said:
Genesis 7:22 And all things wherein there is the breath of life on the earth, died.

Notice that eretz is translated as "earth", meaning "land." So everything that breathed in the area died.

But this still doesn't explain how Noah got all those whales on board, which is what happened if you take the story as a literal history.
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hello Barbarian, dirtfarmer here

Where does scripture state that anything that lived in water had to be aboard the ark? Land animals doesn't mean marine life? does it?
 
Barbarian said:
It says "everything with the breath of life." That includes whales.
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hello Barbarian, dirtfarmer here

Do whales live in water , even though they breath air? The ones that I have seen first hand come up and surface to get air. What would be the necessity to have them on the ark for survival during the flood?
 
Barbarian said:
Genesis 7:22 And all things wherein there is the breath of life on the earth, died.

Notice that eretz is translated as "earth", meaning "land." So everything that breathed in the area died.

But this still doesn't explain how Noah got all those whales on board, which is what happened if you take the story as a literal history.
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Genesis 1:10 ... Jeremiah 5:21
 
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Genesis 7:22 And all things wherein there is the breath of life on the earth, died.

Notice that eretz is translated as "earth", meaning "land." So everything that breathed in the area died.

But this still doesn't explain how Noah got all those whales on board, which is what happened if you take the story as a literal history.

Genesis 1:10 And God called the dry land, Earth; and the gathering together of the waters, he called Seas. And God saw that it was good.
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God uses the same word to describe the land of Israel. Unless you're trying to tell us that Israel comprises the whole world, you just undercut your own argument.

Jeremiah is speaking to you:
Jeremiah 5:21 Hear, O foolish people, and without understanding: who have eyes, and see not: and ears, and hear not.
 
brother Paul said:
There is no comma in the Hebrew, so it means all that had nostrils in which was the breath of life that were on the land...
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No, it doesn't say that. That would be man's addition to God's word. And even if it did say that, whales have nostrils. They are just repositioned on the skull.
 
dirtfarmer said:
Do whales live in water , even though they breath air? The ones that I have seen first hand come up and surface to get air. What would be the necessity to have them on the ark for survival during the flood?
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Doesn't make much sense, does it. And yet that's what it says, if you take it literally. That's the kind of thing that forcing a literalist interpretation on the Bible will do. Goes back to the strict literalist position:

"Scripture must be interpreted literally in all cases, except when we say it isn't."
 
Barbarian said:
You mean "Scripture must be interpreted literally in all cases, except when we say it isn't."
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Jude 1:10
Barbarian said:
Genesis 7:22 And all things wherein there is the breath of life on the earth, died.

Notice that eretz is translated as "earth", meaning "land." So everything that breathed in the area died.

But this still doesn't explain how Noah got all those whales on board, which is what happened if you take the story as a literal history.



God uses the same word to describe the land of Israel. Unless you're trying to tell us that Israel comprises the whole world, you just undercut your own argument.

Jeremiah is speaking to you:
Jeremiah 5:21 Hear, O foolish people, and without understanding: who have eyes, and see not: and ears, and hear not.
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You're getting desperate ..
 
Barbarian said:
Doesn't make much sense, does it. And yet that's what it says, if you take it literally. That's the kind of thing that forcing a literalist interpretation on the Bible will do. Goes back to the strict literalist position:

"Scripture must be interpreted literally in all cases, except when we say it isn't."
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hello Barbarian, dirtfarmer here

You are taking Genesis 7:22 out of context. To properly understand that passage of scripture you should also included v's 21 & 23.
 
Barbarian said:
I don't see how it changes the context, either. If all living things that breathe went on the Ark, then whales were aboard. So where manatees, seals,sea lions, etc.
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hello Barbarian, dirtfarmer here

If you want to believe the whales," manatees, seals, sea lions, etc.", then that is your decision. I prefer to use the common sense that God gave.
 
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