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Ex-christian turned to witchcraft - ask me anything

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I got tired of the hypocrisy I saw in the church. People who had their hands up loving on god, but not loving others. Ignoring them and treating them like dung. I saw this in church after church.

1 John 4:20 says that if you claim to love god but hate others, you are a liar. When I brought up this fact to my ex-pastor, he had no answer, but tried to sluff me off to another church.

I got tired of unanswered prayers, yet, when I turned to the craft, my prayers are answered and quickly. I'm heard and accepted, unlike in the church where I was told I had to cut my hair and start wearing a suit to church. Not that the heart of the person matters, but somehow "looking" godly somehow makes you more godly.

I got so disgusted with the church that I left. I was someone who loved god at one time, but got tired of seeing people that say one thing but do another, and unanswered prayer.

Talk to me, I'm eager to hear from you. That is if you actually care.
 
I actually want to have a discussion with someone about this. Someone who has evidence of a changed heart. Only you could get through to me. I'm waiting...
 
That's not an answer. I want to talk to someone and have a real discussion. (I'm just being very straight-forward with you so please don''t take offense) but saying "follow close behind Him" does not convince me of anything. Engage me in a real discussion!

So anyone doesn't think I'm full of crap, I consider myself a green witch. I don't work with deities or gods, I've had my fill of gods thank you. I just work with nature and the elements.

Talk to me.
 
You evidently had a rough go of it in a church setting so for that I'm sorry.

In my 34 years of knowing Christ, many have also let me down just like you, but, The Lord never has.

It's worth your time to forget what others have done and focus solely upon God.

You do know that he requires repentance for witchcraft right? Revelation 21:8

It's my prayer that you forgive those who offended you, and return to the Lord...He will forgive and restore you.
Isaiah 1:18
 
But you also know that the apostle Paul said that women must be silent in the churches? Yet nowhere do I see churches following that. Even there are women pastors. I believe, either you need to take the word in fully, or throw it out fully. Not any of throwing out inconvenient truths that don't follow your dogma. Either be all in or not at all. ( I choose to be not at all).

I follow the Wiccan rede which says "an ye harm none, do what you will". Which means "as long as you harm none, do what you want". I know that forgiveness is HARD, I also believe in forgiveness, but that doesn't mean I haven't been hurt by people who claimed to love god and had my "best interests" at heart and was treated like crap by them.

Try again. I'm here and reading every post....
 
unknown1991 said:
But you also know that the apostle Paul said that women must be silent in the churches? Yet nowhere do I see churches following that. Even there are women pastors
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So then you know they are wrong because God thru paul told you so then how did God let you down?
Did he not give you instruction?
 
@Mailiah inked here; I've been waiting to hear from Him and he doesn't answer!!!! No, it's on Him. I've told Him that for 6 years. I've been waiting for him to move! I call B.S.

Your god will have to do better than that.
 
unknown1991 said:
@Mailiah inked here; I've been waiting to hear from Him and he doesn't answer!!!! No, it's on Him. I've told Him that for 6 years. I've been waiting for him to move! I call B.S.

Your god will have to do better than that.
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Well doesnt seem like any talking will be of help... thats between you and God and nothing I ask or say will change that
 
Scripture Says said:
Well doesnt seem like any talking will be of help... thats between you and God and nothing I ask or say will change that
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You are probably right. I was hoping to have a real discussion, but you have a thick wall to break through. Believe me, I know and recognize those that have truly changed hearts....

I was hoping that maybe a discussion (since my ex-church wasn't interested) might change things. I see I was right in the first place. I have no intention of changing course or giving up what I have embraced. Nothing anybody has said has changed my mind. I was a little open, but I see I'm proved right time and again lately....

Hmm, if you want to turn hearts toward your god and save lives, you'll have to do better and be willing to engage people not so willing. That also means having a softer heart and not being militant. Here's a hint: don't give up so easily.

Thanks for the "discussion". Anyone else want to engage me or is this it?
 
unknown1991 said:
I got tired of the hypocrisy I saw in the church. People who had their hands up loving on god, but not loving others. Ignoring them and treating them like dung. I saw this in church after church.

1 John 4:20 says that if you claim to love god but hate others, you are a liar. When I brought up this fact to my ex-pastor, he had no answer, but tried to sluff me off to another church.

I got tired of unanswered prayers, yet, when I turned to the craft, my prayers are answered and quickly. I'm heard and accepted, unlike in the church where I was told I had to cut my hair and start wearing a suit to church. Not that the heart of the person matters, but somehow "looking" godly somehow makes you more godly.

I got so disgusted with the church that I left. I was someone who loved god at one time, but got tired of seeing people that say one thing but do another, and unanswered prayer.

Talk to me, I'm eager to hear from you. That is if you actually care.
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Romans 14:8
If we live, we live for the Lord; and if we die, we die for the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord.
 
One of my ex-pastors once told me to my face, "you could have heaven on earth". Of course he would say that. He has a beautiful wife, children, a good standing in the church, a home he bought on his salary. Of course he would think that, ignoring the fact that I was literally going through hell on earth at the time.

I fellt like he neither understood nor accepted me. Of course anyone experiencing so much goodness in this life would say that, unable to see that others are going through so much hell. I was traumatized (literally) by what I went through. But he was unable to see, or didn't care, what I was going through. Your god wouldn't answer my prayers for relief to my circumstances, either. He felt like a million miles away.

So why is it, that I turn toward the craft, and suddenly I'm heard and answered? Gee, I wonder why...

You guys could have done better if you actually cared and wanted to turn a heart back to him. This was his final chance.

I hold nothing against you. But this shows me the church is all about cliques and don't really care for anyone but those inside their little lives and circles. They speak scriptures all day, "positive affirmations", but can't deal with those that are truly hurting and sick. I'm disappointed, but not surprised. Blessed be, everyone!

Administrator: you may delete this account, and I'm asking you to. Keep this thread if you want, I don't care. But delete and lock this account please. I'm done.
 
CherubRam said:
God test those who say they love him.
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I did love him. Don't you dare judge me. You know nothing of my circumstances. In fact, at almost 40 years old he was my very first experience with love. I never felt love for anyone or from anyone in my life until I felt his love for me. Don't judge me. You know nothing of me.

Again, unhelpful. Does anyone want to have a *real* discussion with me?
 
hawkman said:
God still loves you . What do you need to hear from God
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I've been pissed of at him for many years. (is that word allowed here?). For unanswered prayer, letting me go through hell until I was at the brink of suicide. Then, and only then, he would pull back and bring relief to my circumstances for just a short period of time. Then hell would resume. For other unanswered prayers (anyone prophetic here? You can speak to me what those requests of him were).

I know the word. And I know the truth. Okay? That's why I've tried to keep my practice separate from my beliefs in God. The more my, shall we call it 'supplications' are answered ,the more god is further in the rear-view mirror.
 
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