Bible Study Faith of Christ - Faith in Christ

[JLB]

They were made righteous by the obedience of one ! Rom 5:19

19 For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

Of course it was His obedience to the cross, that provided the one sacrifice able to cleanse us of our sins.


The way we partake of this is to believe, and therefore obey the Gospel.


For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16


No where in the Bible do we find a scripture that say whoever is saved shall believe in Him.


Salvation, eternal life is the result of believing.





JLB

 

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Of course it was His obedience to the cross, that provided the one sacrifice able to cleanse us of our sins.


The way we partake of this is to believe, and therefore obey the Gospel.


For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16


No where in the Bible do we find a scripture that say whoever is saved shall believe in Him.


Salvation, eternal life is the result of believing.





JLB

Of course you are missing the point. Its by His One Obedience many are made righteous Rom 5:19

19 For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

You are saying by the obedience of more than one to make many righteous. Thats not what the text says.

Its the opposite of by the one mans disobedience many were made sinners, it only took his one act of disobedience to make many sinners.

 

[JLB]

You are saying by the obedience of more than one

Those are your words, not mine.

These are my words —

Of course it was His obedience to the cross, that provided the one sacrifice able to cleanse us of our sins.


For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous.
Romans 5:19


You are reading this verse as if it were the only verse in the Bible. You must learn to read what scripture says in the light of the context.

If you divorce yourself from the surrounding context that the Holy Spirit through Paul has given us to understand then, you divorce yourself from the reality of what God is desiring to teach us.


His obedience gives us access to His grace.

His obedience provides a way for us to partake of His life.

We must act in obedience to gain what His obedience has provided for us, which is access to be a partakers of; eternal life, salvation, a new nature, a new life in Christ.




Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. Romans 5:1-2

• Access by faith.

Do you understand what “justification by faith” means and how it works?

If you don’t understand the principal of how “justification by faith“ works, then you will continue to misunderstand large parts of the Bible.


Do you know what “justified by faith” means?


It was what Paul was sent by Jesus Christ to bring to the Gentile world.


No one is saved apart from believing and obeying the Gospel.






JLB

 

[brightfame52]

Those are your words, not mine.

These are my words —

Of course it was His obedience to the cross, that provided the one sacrifice able to cleanse us of our sins.


For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous.
Romans 5:19


You are reading this verse as if it were the only verse in the Bible. You must learn to read what scripture says in the light of the context.

If you divorce yourself from the surrounding context that the Holy Spirit through Paul has given us to understand then, you divorce yourself from the reality of what God is desiring to teach us.


His obedience gives us access to His grace.

His obedience provides a way for us to partake of His life.

We must act in obedience to gain what His obedience has given us access to be a partakers of; eternal life, salvation, a new nature, a new life in Christ.




Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. Romans 5:1-2


Do you understand what “justification by faith” means and how it works?

If you don’t understand the principal of how “justification by faith“ works, then you will continue to misunderstand large parts of the Bible.


Do you know what “justified by faith” means?


It was what Paul was sent by Jesus Christ to bring to the Gentile world.


No one is saved apart from believing and obeying the Gospel.






JLB

His obedience of one made many righteous Rom 5:19!

 

[JLB]

His obedience of one made many righteous Rom 5:19!

For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous.
Romans 5:19


Do you believe verse 19 is somehow isolated from the rest of Romans?


How about this part of verse 19 —

For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners...

Do you believe that man can continue in disobedience yet somehow be righteous; right with God?




JLB

 

[JLB]

His obedience of one made many righteous Rom 5:19!

For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous. Romans 5:19

• Made righteous = justified

His obedience has gained us access to grace, to God, to salvation...

What must we do to obtain the salvation His obedience has given us access to?



JLB

 

[brightfame52]

For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous.
Romans 5:19


Do you believe verse 19 is somehow isolated from the rest of Romans?


How about this part of verse 19 —

For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners...

Do you believe that man can continue in disobedience yet somehow be righteous; right with God?




JLB

No it's not isolated but it is in the same context. Why don't you believe it? According to Rom 5:19 how many obediences are stated to make many righteous?

 

[brightfame52]

For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous. Romans 5:19

• Made righteous = justified

His obedience has gained us access to grace, to God, to salvation...

What must we do to obtain the salvation His obedience has given us access to?



JLB

According to Rom 5:19 His one obedience makes many righteous.

Question. How many disobediences did it take to make many sinners according to Rom 5:19?

 

[JLB]

No it's not isolated but it is in the same context. Why don't you believe it?

For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous.
Romans 5:19


I have have repeatedly stated ...


Of course it was His obedience to the cross, that provided the one sacrifice able to cleanse us of our sins. No one else can be their own sacrifice, no one else has s sinless.

His obedience as a sinless sacrifice provided for us access...

Access to His grace.
Access to His life.
Access to Salvation.


Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. Romans 5:1-2




JLB

 

[JLB]

According to Rom 5:19 His one obedience makes many righteous.

Question. How many disobediences did it take to make many sinners according to Rom 5:19?

I have asked you several questions.


Please answer them.

For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners...

Do you believe that man can continue in disobedience yet somehow be righteous; right with God?

I have questions that you ignored.


You answer one of my questions then I will answer yours.


If you expect people to have a reasonable discussion with you then you must learn to answer their questions.


For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous.
Romans 5:19




JLB

 

[brightfame52]

For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous.
Romans 5:19


I have have repeatedly stated ...


Of course it was His obedience to the cross, that provided the one sacrifice able to cleanse us of our sins. No one else can be their own sacrifice, no one else has s sinless.

His obedience as a sinless sacrifice provided for us access...

Access to His grace.
Access to His life.
Access to Salvation.


Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. Romans 5:1-2




JLB

They were First Justified/made Righteous by the obedience of One. Whatdoes Rom 5:19 say ?
19 For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

 

[brightfame52]

I have asked you several questions.


Please answer them.






I have questions that you ignored.


You answer one of my questions then I will answer yours.


If you expect people to have a reasonable discussion with you then you must learn to answer their questions.


For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous.
Romans 5:19




JLB

So you arent going to answer my question ? If not, I will rest my case.

 

[JLB]

So you arent going to answer my question ? If not, I will rest my case.

I asked you several questions before you ever asked me anything, which you just ignored.

They were First Justified/made Righteous by the obedience of One. Whatdoes Rom 5:19 say ?
19 For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

The only way a person is justified by faith is by obedience;
the obedience of faith.


Jesus paid the price for our sins by His obedience to the cross.


The way we access the justification, and salvation that He paid for 2000 years ago, is by believing, and therefore obeying the Gospel.


Do you agree?


If not then please explain.





JLB

 

[brightfame52]

I asked you several questions before you ever asked me anything, which you just ignored.





The only way a person is justified by faith is by obedience;
the obedience of faith.


Jesus paid the price for our sins by His obedience to the cross.


The way we access the justification, and salvation that He paid for 2000 years ago, is by believing, and therefore obeying the Gospel.


Do you agree?


If not then please explain.





JLB

Jesus by His Obedience Justified many Rom 5:19

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

 

[JLB]

Jesus by His Obedience Justified many Rom 5:19

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

Jesus Christ was obedient to God the Father, to die as a sacrifice for our sins.


For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16


The way we are made righteous, justified and therefore saved, is to believe and therefore obey the Gospel.


that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10:



No one is justified by disobedience. Those who do not obey the Gospel are condemned.


in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. 2 Thessalonians 1:8



If you believe that were are made righteous, justified, and saved, before we hear and believe the Gospel, then please explain.





JLB

 

[brightfame52]

Jesus Christ was obedient to God the Father, to die as a sacrifice for our sins.


For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16


The way we are made righteous, justified and therefore saved, is to believe and therefore obey the Gospel.


that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10:



No one is justified by disobedience. Those who do not obey the Gospel are condemned.


in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. 2 Thessalonians 1:8



If you believe that were are made righteous, justified, and saved, before we hear and believe the Gospel, then please explain.





JLB

Rom 5:19 said many shall be made righteous by the obedience of one. That One is Jesus Christ.