False Prophet

[dianegcook]

Scripture tells us, quite plainly and openly who the BEAST, the DRAGON and the FALSE PROPHET is. And no, they are NOT people nor are they "worldly physical systems."

Rev. 16:
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

14 For they are the spirits of devils,

I believe Malachi referred to these as the evil trinity. And he was correct in that sight.

Hi there,
May I ask this question?
Why couldn't they buy or sell, unless they have his Mark?
Must be some kind of system, imho.
Also as Malachi states, it is different roles that Satan plays.
It is that part of His role that gets destroyed.
Because we have Satan loosed again after the 1000 year reign.
And yes, we have the fallen angels with Satan, as Rev.9:11 states.
They have their part in setting up the system, imho.

 

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Hi there,
May I ask this question?
Why couldn't they buy or sell, unless they have his Mark?

Who is they? It is quite pointless to force fit "people" into the equations of the spirits of devils.

Yes, they DO buy and sell also, these "spirits of devils." They barter in the souls of men. Rev. 18:13.

The "mark" of the spirits of devils is an inverse mark to hitting the mark of scripture. It's the mark of RESISTANCE to The Word. That mark is also held in the hand/forehead in "converse" fashions to what we are to hold by "binding" the Word to our hands/foreheads. These are not literal external matters nor are they "viewable external" marks in either case of sights. We also barter and buy from Jesus, unseen. Rev. 3:18

Must be some kind of system, imho.
Also as Malachi states, it is different roles that Satan plays.
It is that part of His role that gets destroyed.
Because we have Satan loosed again after the 1000 year reign.
And yes, we have the fallen angels with Satan, as Rev.9:11 states.
They have their part in setting up the system, imho.

They do have systems that function, unseen. "How" they operate is also spelled out. Mark 4:15 is a great example. So is Romans 7:7-13 and 1 Cor. 15:56. If anyone comes to understand this "inverse" form of power, they WILL see the activity of the other parties arise. The same principle is shown in Romans 9:17.

 

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Revelation 16
Well it does say 3 unclean spirits(demons, fallen angels) like frogs(Imitative of croaking) who goes out to the rulers/kings/politicians of the entire earth and gives a sign (typically miraculous or that emphasizes the end-purpose which exalts the one giving it) to bring together the nations of the entire earth for the battle(Armageddon) of that great day of God Almighty.

For humor: There is a small chance that it's 9 unclean spirits, 3 from the mouth of the dragon/serpent, 3 from the mouth of the beast, and 3 from the mouth of the false prophet? Depending how ya read it. http://biblehub.com/text/revelation/16-13.htm

For reference, if you follow marks of Judaism, the number 666 equates to 'covering'

If you understand Satan and devils operate in the flesh, we can also see the meaning of the "cherub" who "COVERS."

If we look at the High Priest of Israel, in his breastplate pockets were carried 12 jewels. If we observe Ezek. 28-12-14 we can see the jewels also on the cherub who covers.

If we observe the statement time, times and 1/2 or 'halving" of time, we might even see the "time" of devils. The "times" of man. And the 1/2 or halving of time when these parties are SEPARATED. Matt. 25. Time from Times.

Not everything is as it appears on the surface.

 

[dianegcook]

Who is they? It is quite pointless to force fit "people" into the equations of the spirits of devils.

Yes, they DO buy and sell also, these "spirits of devils." They barter in the souls of men. Rev. 18:13.

The "mark" of the spirits of devils is an inverse mark to hitting the mark of scripture. It's the mark of RESISTANCE to The Word. That mark is also held in the hand/forehead in "converse" fashions to what we are to hold by "binding" the Word to our hands/foreheads. These are not literal external matters nor are they "viewable external" marks in either case of sights. We also barter and buy from Jesus, unseen. Rev. 3:18



They do have systems that function, unseen. "How" they operate is also spelled out. Mark 4:15 is a great example. So is Romans 7:7-13 and 1 Cor. 15:56. If anyone comes to understand this "inverse" form of power, they WILL see the activity of the other parties arise. The same principle is shown in Romans 9:17.

They?
Rev.13:14
Deceived them that dwell on the earth,
Rev.13:16
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a Mark.
Rev 14:9,10
If any man worship the beast and his image, receive his Mark, shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God.

 

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They?
Rev.13:14
Deceived them that dwell on the earth,
Rev.13:16
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a Mark.
Rev 14:9,10
If any man worship the beast and his image, receive his Mark, shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God.

There is a very simple "cracking tool" that Jesus provided in the scriptures for the dissections of allegory/parable. It is noted in Mark 4:13, that is used for 'every' parable and 15 showing the principle, that were the Word is sown, Satan 'enters' the heart of man.

There are 3 parties engaged with "all" scripture. God, Man that we see with our eyes, and the devil.

TWO of those parties can not be seen. And the last two parties are always "bound" together in the flesh, but natural sight will only see MAN. The scriptures don't operate that way.

 

[dianegcook]

There is a very simple "cracking tool" that Jesus provided in the scriptures for the dissections of allegory/parable. It is noted in Mark 4:13, that is used for 'every' parable and 15 showing the principle, that were the Word is sown, Satan 'enters' the heart of man.

There are 3 parties engaged with "all" scripture. God, Man that we see with our eyes, and the devil.

TWO of those parties can not be seen. And the last two parties are always "bound" together in the flesh, but natural sight will only see MAN. The scriptures don't operate that way.

3?
Rev.9:17,18
Out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.
By these three was the third part of men killed, (spiritually), by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
By deceiving....
Their power is in their mouth..
Blow smoke up my dress, lol.

 

[reba]

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[markathome]

This reminds me of playing pinball with 10 balls going every which direction with no goal or objective.

Prophecy reminds me of the seasons of the year. Every year everything dies in the fall and then it gets dark, cold and gloomy during the winter.
But in the glory of spring the "Son" brings forth new life and everything looks hopeful for the future. The birds are chirping and the flowers bloom.
So each year is different then the year before it, sometimes the weather is really bad and sometimes its not.
But there is no time with our Father, a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day.

Many pieces of the prophecy puzzle fits within each generation for the past 1900 years but never a 100% complete fulfillment of that which we read or are taught. The problem starts when we want the scripture to say something that we want it to say. The world has to be twisted and distorted to fit our narrative. If we look at the current world around us and its different then what we believe, we cloud our own vision to hide the truth of that which is clearly visible.

There is but 1 true false prophet who has sent more people to hell then any other in the past 2000 years.
Even if every single person currently alive on earth was to receive the 666 mark today from a new false prophet/beast it wouldn't even come close to those that have already received the damnation imposed by the first false prophet.

 

[Corn Pop]

As Christ symbolised it to John, I think the number of the beasts name will be something symbolic.

Thee woman is not a woman, the number of the man is also not a man.

 

[dianegcook]

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You cracked me up, lol.

 

[dianegcook]

As Christ symbolised it to John, I think the number of the beasts name will be something symbolic.

Thee woman is not a woman, the number of the man is also not a man.

Yes, most of Rev. Is symbolic.
You have a city, called a harlot, not one woman.

 

[markathome]

Sometimes it helps to use the "image" of the greek instead of the "symbolic" of the english.
For instance Αλλάχ looks a lot different in google image search then its english counterpart.
The image of Christ χριστός remains the same in both languages.

 

[Malachi]

... There is no single antichrist and there is no single false prophet, there seductive misleading destroying spirits.

And that's what the misleading spirits would have you believe. But Scripture is God's Word, and Scripture tells us plainly that the Antichrist is "the Man of Sin" and "the Son of Perdition" (among many other names and titles). Jesus said that many would come saying "I am Christ" (Mt 24:5), which implies that eventually one would come and claim before the whole world "I am Christ and I am God". Please study 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12. And the whole world will go after him.

So yes, just like we have the Holy Trinity (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) we have the unholy trinity (the Devil, the Beast, and the False Prophet) which appears on earth before the Great Tribulation and take absolute control of the entire world (with God's permission) for 3 1/2 years (Rev 13:5).

 

[Malachi]

Yes, most of Rev. Is symbolic.

That is a view which is generally pushed by those who are Amillennialists. While there is much that is symbolic in Revelation, the bulk of its prophecies are not symbolic, but speak of actual future judgements and events in chronological order. Yes Mystery Babylon is symbolic, but Babylon "that great city" is certainly not.

 

[dianegcook]

That is a view which is generally pushed by those who are Amillennialists. While there is much that is symbolic in Revelation, the bulk of its prophecies are not symbolic, but speak of actual future judgements and events in chronological order. Yes Mystery Babylon is symbolic, but Babylon "that great city" is certainly not.

Yes, I agree.
Chronological, depends.
Rev.12 covers eons of time., birth of new age, 12 representing the tribes, the woman, mother Israel, Christ crucified, was to rule with a rod of iron, caught up to God and His throne, sitting on right hand, then future events.
And also the seals are the trumps which produce the wrath, vials, being poured out on those who take part of the deception.

 

[markathome]

Messiah is the promised deliverer of the Jewish nation prophesied in the Hebrew Bible which serves as the prototype for the Messiah from Joseph, and the Messiah from David, who usher in the Messianic Era.
A leader or savior of a particular group or cause. "he was regarded as a messiah by liberal and conservatives alike."
Christ = Anointed One, the Messiah, the Christ: an epithet of Jesus

Here is food (thrown into a blender), for thought.
There is no God but Christ and Jesus is the Messiah of Christ?
There is no God but Theos and Jesus is the Messiah of Theos?
There is no God but Dios and Jesus is the Messiah of Dios?
There is no God but Jesus and Jesus is the Messiah of Jesus?
There is no God but Elohim and Jesus is the Messiah of Elohim?
There is no God but Elohim and Jesus is the Christ of Elohim?
There is no God but Yahweh and Yahshua is the Christ of Yahweh?
There is no God but Elohim and Jesus is the messenger of Elohim?
There is no God but Elohim and John the Baptist is the messenger of Elohim?

 

[Sinthesis]

There is no God but God, and Jesus is His Son.

 

[turnorburn]

One World Religion: Former Israeli President Proposes Pope to Head ‘UN for Religions’

A few months back, former president Shimon Peres met with the Pope at the Vatican and proposed that the Pope head up a UN for religions.

But the main topic of conversation was Peres’s idea to create a UN-like organization he called “the United Religions.”

Peres said the Argentina-born pontiff was the only world figure respected enough to bring an end to the wars raging in the Middle East and elsewhere in the world.

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/new-...posed-for-pope-to-run-un-for-religions_052015

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As Christ symbolised it to John, I think the number of the beasts name will be something symbolic.

Thee woman is not a woman, the number of the man is also not a man.

Not all men in scripture were men that we can see with our eyes.

Lucifer for example is termed "a man." Can we see this as a man in the human sense of a man?

Uh, no.

Fine print is important. Sometimes it's so fine we can't see the details.

 

[reba]

And that's what the misleading spirits would have you believe. But Scripture is God's Word, and Scripture tells us plainly that the Antichrist is "the Man of Sin" and "the Son of Perdition" (among many other names and titles). Jesus said that many would come saying "I am Christ" (Mt 24:5), which implies that eventually one would come and claim before the whole world "I am Christ and I am God". Please study 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12. And the whole world will go after him.

So yes, just like we have the Holy Trinity (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) we have the unholy trinity (the Devil, the Beast, and the False Prophet) which appears on earth before the Great Tribulation and take absolute control of the entire world (with God's permission) for 3 1/2 years (Rev 13:5).

Where is this "Scripture tells us plainly that the Antichrist is "the Man of Sin" and "the Son of Perdition" "