FATE

[Classik]

Is Fate true? Does it exist?


Def by Free Online Dictionary.

1. a. The supposed force, principle, or power that predetermines events. b. The inevitable events predestined by this force.

2. A final result or consequence; an outcome.

3. Unfavorable destiny; doom.

My focus is especially on definitions 1 and 2.

 

[Eugene]

Ecc 3:1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:

Dear Brother Classic, I’ve thought on these this without really attempting to study it, but I did google “Bible Fate” and came up with an interesting article at http://www.gotquestions.org/fate-destiny.html .

I’ll print an excerpt of it here for any that may not be able to go there.

Question: "What does the Bible say about fate / destiny?"
Answer: This is a very complex issue, and we will start with what the Bible does not teach. Fate is usually thought of as a predetermined course of events beyond human control. A typical response to a belief in fate is resignation—if we can’t change destiny, then why even try? Whatever happens, happens, and we can’t do anything about it. This is called “fatalism,” and it is not biblical.

Fatalism is a major premise of Islam, which demands total submission to the sovereignty of Allah. It is widely held in Hinduism, too; in fact, it is a fatalistic view of life that helps keep India’s caste system in place. Greek mythology told of the Moirai, or the Fates, three goddesses pictured as weavers of men’s lives. Their decisions could not be canceled or annulled, even by other gods. Again, fatalism is not a biblical concept.

Fate and Destiny - Our Free Will
The Bible teaches that Man was created with the ability to make moral choices and that he is responsible for those choices. The Fall of Man was not a predetermined event in which Adam and Eve were hapless victims of a Puppet-Master God. On the contrary, Adam and his wife had the ability to choose obedience (with its attendant blessing) or disobedience (with its consequent curse). They knew what the result of their decision would be, and they were held accountable (Genesis 3) . . . .

Blessing in Christ Jesus.

 

[Knotical]

Not as complex as one might think. As brother Eugene pointed out with the excerpts he posted, fate is really a belief in an unknown force that controls destiny.

This could be attributed to God's will, but then you would have to completely remove free will from the equation.

While I do believe everything happens for a reason, there are plenty of things we cannot explain as the broader picture is out of our scope of reasoning, but ultimately our own actions do have their own causes and effects, and God can use those toward His own glory should He choose to.

 

[Eugene]

God’s foreknowledge of what we will do does not negate the consequences of our actions being the cause of what many call fate. E.g., Because He foreknew us.

1 Pet 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father . . .

Rom 11:2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew . .

Choices are made, results are realized.

 

[Classik]

Ecc 3:1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:

Dear Brother Classic, I’ve thought on these this without really attempting to study it, but I did google “Bible Fate” and came up with an interesting article at http://www.gotquestions.org/fate-destiny.html .

I’ll print an excerpt of it here for any that may not be able to go there.

Question: "What does the Bible say about fate / destiny?"
Answer: This is a very complex issue, and we will start with what the Bible does not teach. Fate is usually thought of as a predetermined course of events beyond human control. A typical response to a belief in fate is resignation—if we can’t change destiny, then why even try? Whatever happens, happens, and we can’t do anything about it. This is called “fatalism,” and it is not biblical.

Fatalism is a major premise of Islam, which demands total submission to the sovereignty of Allah. It is widely held in Hinduism, too; in fact, it is a fatalistic view of life that helps keep India’s caste system in place. Greek mythology told of the Moirai, or the Fates, three goddesses pictured as weavers of men’s lives. Their decisions could not be canceled or annulled, even by other gods. Again, fatalism is not a biblical concept.

Fate and Destiny - Our Free Will
The Bible teaches that Man was created with the ability to make moral choices and that he is responsible for those choices. The Fall of Man was not a predetermined event in which Adam and Eve were hapless victims of a Puppet-Master God. On the contrary, Adam and his wife had the ability to choose obedience (with its attendant blessing) or disobedience (with its consequent curse). They knew what the result of their decision would be, and they were held accountable (Genesis 3) . . . .

Blessing in Christ Jesus.

Thank you for your reply. This is a very precise reply.

 

[Classik]

Not as complex as one might think. As brother Eugene pointed out with the excerpts he posted, fate is really a belief in an unknown force that controls destiny.

This could be attributed to God's will, but then you would have to completely remove free will from the equation.

While I do believe everything happens for a reason, there are plenty of things we cannot explain as the broader picture is out of our scope of reasoning, but ultimately our own actions do have their own causes and effects, and God can use those toward His own glory should He choose to.

Not as complex as one might think. As brother Eugene pointed out with the excerpts he posted, fate is really a belief in an unknown force that controls destiny.

This could be attributed to God's will, but then you would have to completely remove free will from the equation.

While I do believe everything happens for a reason, there are plenty of things we cannot explain as the broader picture is out of our scope of reasoning, but ultimately our own actions do have their own causes and effects, and God can use those toward His own glory should He choose to.

And that is where I have serious issues. Everything happens for a purpose. But not all of them are of God