Forgiveness requires Works

[Joe67]

Rev 18:7-8
7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her. KJV

1 Cor 11:32
32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. KJV

We cannot forgive others until we have been forgiven/judged/chastened of the Lord and delivered from the condemnation of the devil.

Joe

 

[TheCatholic]

Sorry, I do not agree. Again, any human effort is not acceptable in God's sight........

I agree with this entirely.........

Sorry, but you are both wrong. The example I gave in the OP is but one example.

Next: Consider Matt 25:31-46. You will see the that it is the people who do the works of charity that go to heaven Those who do not are damned. These works are obviously good in the sight of God: In NO WAY can they be construed as "filthy rags".

That whole filthy rags bit is Old Testament stuff, and I don't know why people keep quoting it.

 

[francisdesales]

Next: Consider Matt 25:31-46. You will see the that it is the people who do the works of charity that go to heaven Those who do not are damned. These works are obviously good in the sight of God: In NO WAY can they be construed as "filthy rags".

That whole filthy rags bit is Old Testament stuff, and I don't know why people keep quoting it.

Amazing how much faulty theology is based upon this one verse from Scriptures. Isaiah is clearly not saying that literally all works of all men are "as filthy rags", but that mankind in general, when they do not follow God, are "as filthy rags". Clearly, the OT and the NT call men RIGHTEOUS, even before the New Covenant came into effect. Joseph was righteous (Jesus' earthly father). How could Joseph be righteous if all he did was as filthy rags???? Same with Zachariah.

And yet, a monstrous theology built upon one verse in the OT, coupled with Paul's one verse in Romans 3, and now all men and all their acts are evil??? Sadistic, to say the least.

Regards