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Gay's Raising Children

coffeelover,
While homosexual behavior can be seen in the behavior of other mammals, it remains the exception, not the norm. In the same manner, it remains the exception in our society, not the norm in terms of behavior in percentages. What you're arguing is the acceptance of the exception as if it's the norm. This simply isn't the case.

Just like on the occasions where a lioness takes a baby antelope and protects it, and treats it as her own... it's the exception, not the norm. What's expected in each case, is when a lion comes and kills the baby and the lioness is left to her own means, helpless to stop the attack.

The act of homosexual behavior is heavily frowned upon in scripture, and at this time I would like to remind you that you are on a Christian forum. So while you may not agree with scripture for your own reasons, please know and respect where many of us take a stand on the issue.

Thank you.
 
Being new, I am still learning where the lines are drawn, but this is what the New Testament says :

Romans 1: 24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves,
25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.
27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful,
and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

1 Corinthians 6: 9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters,
nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit
the kingdom of God
 
Hi Craig and welcome to the forums :)

Yes, those scriptures have been beaten to death, which is why I reminded coffeelover that this is a Christian Forum, and our response toward homosexuality should be a given.

That being said, the last thing anyone needs to do is start violating the TOS :pray

Again, welcome Craig :waving
 
Thank you Stove

Can a scripture be beaten to death??? ;)

We love the sinner, accept and do not condemn them......but we stand firm with the truth of God. What is sin...is sin.
 
craigmn3 said:
We should stick with God's plan, One Man, One Woman, One Family.
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That is not the plan

even in your idealized biblical times that was never the case marriage even within the christian religion has often been between 1man and several women read your old testament... Most of the raising of said children begin done by the women not the absent male role model. This has been the case for most of recorded history it's only since the 11th century when it's become more frowned upon and religions began outlawing it.

Beyond that in medieval times lifespan was very very short thus raising of the family was often done more by an entire community and the extended family whomever was alive or available at the time.

In Edwardian times if you were wealthy you didn't really have a mother and father you were raised by Nannies and Servants...
If you were poor you were probably raised by your elder siblings or your mother exclusively once again absent role male roles.

It's only since Victorian times 100 years ago when small crowded living conditions of urban life necessitated that the Man and Wife live together and sleep in the same bed that we have these traditional gender roles that you speak of emerging.
 
Pebbles said:
That is not the plan

even in your idealized biblical times that was never the case marriage even within the christian religion has often been between 1man and several women read your old testament... Most of the raising of said children begin done by the women not the absent male role model. This has been the case for most of recorded history it's only since the 11th century when it's become more frowned upon and religions began outlawing it.

Beyond that in medieval times lifespan was very very short thus raising of the family was often done more by an entire community and the extended family whomever was alive or available at the time.

In Edwardian times if you were wealthy you didn't really have a mother and father you were raised by Nannies and Servants...
If you were poor you were probably raised by your elder siblings or your mother exclusively once again absent role male roles.

It's only since Victorian times 100 years ago when small crowded living conditions of urban life necessitated that the Man and Wife live together and sleep in the same bed that we have these traditional gender roles that you speak of emerging.
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so we failed to meet the standard. men still do that it shouldnt mean we lower the bar.

should we grade on the curve for those schools to look good? its the same thing in a sense with this idea.
 
jasoncran said:
so we failed to meet the standard. men still do that it shouldnt mean we lower the bar.

should we grade on the curve for those schools to look good? its the same thing in a sense with this idea.
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That's not what I was getting at.

I'm saying that those individuals probably turned out alright in terms of there moral fiber. They weren't handicapped by there lack of exposure to traditional gender stereotypes. Whats most important is that you have a caring and loving role model regardless of there gender and number.
 
Pebbles said:
That's not what I was getting at.

I'm saying that those individuals probably turned out alright in terms of there moral fiber. They weren't handicapped by there lack of exposure to traditional gender stereotypes. Whats most important is that you have a caring and loving role model regardless of there gender and number.
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i see a problem with that logic. if you never have a real model that is either the opposite sex, how will know what the relationships should be?

i have the same type of marriage as my parents as that is what i raised in. you will do what you saw as a child good or bad. yes you can change but why set up children to fail?
 
jasoncran said:
i see a problem with that logic. if you never have a real model that is either the opposite sex, how will know what the relationships should be?

i have the same type of marriage as my parents as that is what i raised in. you will do what you saw as a child good or bad. yes you can change but why set up children to fail?
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It's what you learn in your late teens and early twenties your learning about relationships and howto interact with others.

Trust nobody knows howto make a first date run smoothly first time around no matter who your parents are.
 
Lewis W said:
Well it is clear to me that you are not saved, and if you are, you are a babe in Christ and does not know any better. And I did not say that to insult you.
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Your opinions on whether someone is saved or not is not good justification for potentially denying kids homes to and families to capable parents.
 
Pebbles said:
Your opinions on whether someone is saved or not is not good justification for potentially denying kids homes to and families to capable parents.
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I will go by the Word of God, not by what man thinks it should be or what man thinks is right. Jesus is against it, so I am against it. So it does not matter what mankind says. God says being gay is against His rules, so I say what God says.
 
The thing is it's only going to take one incident of a bad thing to happen which will be to the detriment of children and it will literally be because they're in that gay environment, before the pro anything gay 'experts' suddenly change their previously applauded research/study/report to show that these 'families' are plain and simply WRONG ...

Mark my words this is going to happen ...

But believers don't have to wait ... we already know ...
 
coffeeelover said:
It is normal, and the children will be fine. There is no need for alarm.
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Perversion is normal? Since the beginning of time, man has never accepted homosexuality as normal, except in certain godless civilizations that soon thereafter fell or were destroyed.

This evil is a very potent sign that this evil world is on the brink of destruction.

Perversion is only normal within the world of the perverted. It is completely abnormal in the plan of God and in the lives of His kids.
 
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