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Gen 6:8? “Grace”
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Hey All,
Noah was pre- Moses so pre-Law.
Grace began in Genesis 3:15 when God let Adam and Eve live.
Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Actually, if you want to get real technical, it started at Genesis 3:6.
Genesis 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
Grace is always the same.
Grace is always delivered through faith in Jesus.
Or in Adam's or Noah's case, it was faith in the Messiah promised by God.
Keep walking everybody.
May God bless,
Taz
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Humblepie
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I think the Law was given, but it was passed down orally until Moses.
Gen7:2
2 Of every ((((clean))))beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are (((((not clean))))) by two, the male and his female.
Gen8:20
20 And Noah builded an altar unto the Lord; and took of every clean beast, and of every clean fowl, and offered burnt offerings on the altar.
Hey All,
How did Moses know the account?
Genesis 6:13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
We know that God talked to Noah.
We know that whatever God instructed Noah to do, Noah did it.
Keep walking everybody.
May God bless,
Taz
Adam knew God, he walked and talked with God prior to his fall.
He must have taught his children how to worship and serve God, as gen 4:
3 In the course of time Cain brought some of the fruits of the soil as an offering to the Lord. 4 And Abel also brought an offering—fat portions from some of the firstborn of his flock. The Lord looked with favor on Abel and his offering, 5 but on Cain and his offering he did not look with favor. So Cain was very angry, and his face was downcast.
6 Then the Lord said to Cain, “Why are you angry? Why is your face downcast? 7 If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must rule over it.” shows.
Nothing is described in genesis 6 as a righteous man:-
This is the account of Noah and his family.
Noah was a righteous man, blameless among the people of his time, and he walked faithfully with God. 10 Noah had three sons: Shem, Ham and Japheth.
The grace he had is like every sinner, a gift from God.
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Grace to me is understanding spiritual truth and being aware of its functions. Seeing God for who He is. Noah had a heart that was persistent and did exactly what God wanted, ignoring the abuse while building the boat. Following Gods instructions in fine detail.
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Noahic (Noah) Commandments are seven commandments first given to Adam by God before the flood and brought to remembrance by God to Noah after the flood, which are binding on both Jew and Gentile as there were no Jew or Gentile in the days of Noah. Abraham was the first one to be called a Hebrew, Genesis 14:13. The seven make up the first parts of the ten that God gave to Moses on Mt Sinai in Exodus 20. Below is a comparison list of the seven and the full ten which are all a part of the 613 laws given to Moses as some were for the Hebrews pertaining to the rituals of the Temple, sacrifices, festivals, Torah, Kohanim and Levites, the King and the Nazarite and then there are the existing moral laws (commandments) for all, Jew and Gentile to follow. Christ did not come to destroy all the laws, but to fulfill the parts of the Temple and sacrifices, Matthew 5:17-22.
Noahic Laws:
Not to worship idols.
Not to curse God.
To establish courts of justice.
Not to commit murder.
Not to commit adultery or sexual immorality.
Not to steal.
Not to eat flesh torn from a living animal.
Mt. Sinai Laws:
You shall have no other gods before Me.
You shall not make idols.
You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Honor your father and your mother.
You shall not murder.
You shall not commit adultery.
You shall not steal.
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
You shall not covet.
Part of the ten laws broken down to various commands within one law:
Other gods and idols are as one not to worship, but broke down into two commands
Remember the Sabbath was added to the ten commandments by God as a remembrance of all God did in six days (Gods timing) and rested on the seventh, Genesis 2:1-3; Matthew 12:1-13
To establish courts of justice was only given to Noah for the new generations to come after the flood
Honor your father and mother was not given to Noah, but was added to the ten commandments by God as the generations grew.
Not to covet was added to the ten commandments by God, but broke down into seven commands as your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.
Noahic (Noah) Commandments are seven commandments first given to Adam by God before the flood and brought to remembrance by God to Noah after the flood, which are binding on both Jew and Gentile as there were no Jew or Gentile in the days of Noah. Abraham was the first one to be called a Hebrew, Genesis 14:13. The seven make up the first parts of the ten that God gave to Moses on Mt Sinai in Exodus 20. Below is a comparison list of the seven and the full ten which are all a part of the 613 laws given to Moses as some were for the Hebrews pertaining to the rituals of the Temple, sacrifices, festivals, Torah, Kohanim and Levites, the King and the Nazarite and then there are the existing moral laws (commandments) for all, Jew and Gentile to follow. Christ did not come to destroy all the laws, but to fulfill the parts of the Temple and sacrifices, Matthew 5:17-22.
Noahic Laws:
Not to worship idols.
Not to curse God.
To establish courts of justice.
Not to commit murder.
Not to commit adultery or sexual immorality.
Not to steal.
Not to eat flesh torn from a living animal.
Mt. Sinai Laws:
You shall have no other gods before Me.
You shall not make idols.
You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Honor your father and your mother.
You shall not murder.
You shall not commit adultery.
You shall not steal.
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
You shall not covet.
Part of the ten laws broken down to various commands within one law:
Other gods and idols are as one not to worship, but broke down into two commands
Remember the Sabbath was added to the ten commandments by God as a remembrance of all God did in six days (Gods timing) and rested on the seventh, Genesis 2:1-3; Matthew 12:1-13
To establish courts of justice was only given to Noah for the new generations to come after the flood
Honor your father and mother was not given to Noah, but was added to the ten commandments by God as the generations grew.
Not to covet was added to the ten commandments by God, but broke down into seven commands as your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.
Humblepie
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Sigh.
Genesis 7:2
2 Of every (((clean beast))) thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are (((not clean))) by two, the male and his female.
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Exactly. God's grace is a feature, a characteristic, of His nature. So, then, because God has always existed, His divine grace has always existed. Jesus was the physical embodiment of God, of His nature, and so it can be said that God's grace came to humanity in Jesus; which would mean, not that grace came into existence at Christ's advent into the world, but God's eternal and infinite grace came into the world for the first time in fully human form.
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Only God has the authority to give His commandments first to Adam and then to Noah after the flood and then around 1000 years later to Moses after the exodus from Egypt for that of the Temple laws and moral laws that make up the 613 Mosaic laws in which Jesus has already fulfilled the Temple laws as we are all still under the moral laws until Christ returns fulfilling everything. This is why it is so important to also study the Biblical history and dates to know that Moses was born 1000 years approximately after the death of Noah.
Noah was born 2948BC in Shulon, East Eden and died 1998BC in Salem, Jerusalem, Canaan
Moses was born in Goshen, lower Egypt, around 1391BC and died in Mt Nebo, Moab, Transjordan around 1271BC
Humblepie
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Sigh again.
Meaning the instructions from God has always been here, Moses was just the one who put it in writing.
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Moses was not the first to receive that which began with the seven commands of God in the days of Noah as only he found favor in the Lord before God brought the flood as all others others fell away from God denying His name.
Jewish Attitudes Toward Non-Jews - Judaism 101 (JewFAQ)
Judaism does not maintain that Jews are better than other people. This page explains the Jewish attitudes towards non-Jews.
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Are you kidding?Moses was not the first to receive that which began with the seven commands of God in the days of Noah as only he found favor in the Lord before God brought the flood as all others others fell away from God denying His name.
Jewish Attitudes Toward Non-Jews - Judaism 101 (JewFAQ)
Judaism does not maintain that Jews are better than other people. This page explains the Jewish attitudes towards non-Jews.
Gentiles are goyim ((cattle))
Pigs & goats
Quote:
"Masonic lodges are established all over the world to help us achieve our independence. Those pigs, the non- Jewish Masons, will never understand the final objects of Masonry." I Theodor Herzel 1897 Switzerland _DONST ORGANIZATION CF AMERICA Former U.S. President Donald Trump is awarded the Theodor Herzl Gold Medallion at the Zionist Organization erica's 125th anniversary Gala in New York City
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Where do you get that from?
In modern Hebrew and Yiddish goy is a term for a Gentile, a non-Jew. Through Yiddish the word has been adopted into English also to mean Gentile, sometimes in a pejorative sense. As a word principally used by Jews to describe Gentiles.
