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Hey All,Gen 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.
How did Noah find grace since Jn 1:17 says:
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ!
Thks
17 For the law was given by Moses
How did Noah have knowledge of Gen 3:15 or any of the Pentateuch? It was written by Moses centuries later?Hey All,
Noah was pre- Moses so pre-Law.
Grace began in Genesis 3:15 when God let Adam and Eve live.
Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Actually, if you want to get real technical, it started at Genesis 3:6.
Genesis 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
Grace is always the same.
Grace is always delivered through faith in Jesus.
Or in Adam's or Noah's case, it was faith in the Messiah promised by God.
Keep walking everybody.
May God bless,
Taz
Hey All,How did Noah have knowledge of Gen 3:15 or any of the Pentateuch? It was written by Moses centuries later?
Gen 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.
How did Noah find grace since Jn 1:17 says:
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ!
Thks
Grace is God sharing His life with usGrace to me is understanding spiritual truth and being aware of its functions. Seeing God for who He is. Noah had a heart that was persistent and did exactly what God wanted, ignoring the abuse while building the boat. Following Gods instructions in fine detail.
By who?www.jewfaq.org
Noahic (Noah) Commandments are seven commandments first given to Adam by God before the flood and brought to remembrance by God to Noah after the flood, which are binding on both Jew and Gentile as there were no Jew or Gentile in the days of Noah. Abraham was the first one to be called a Hebrew, Genesis 14:13. The seven make up the first parts of the ten that God gave to Moses on Mt Sinai in Exodus 20. Below is a comparison list of the seven and the full ten which are all a part of the 613 laws given to Moses as some were for the Hebrews pertaining to the rituals of the Temple, sacrifices, festivals, Torah, Kohanim and Levites, the King and the Nazarite and then there are the existing moral laws (commandments) for all, Jew and Gentile to follow. Christ did not come to destroy all the laws, but to fulfill the parts of the Temple and sacrifices, Matthew 5:17-22.
Noahic Laws:
Not to worship idols.
Not to curse God.
To establish courts of justice.
Not to commit murder.
Not to commit adultery or sexual immorality.
Not to steal.
Not to eat flesh torn from a living animal.
Mt. Sinai Laws:
You shall have no other gods before Me.
You shall not make idols.
You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Honor your father and your mother.
You shall not murder.
You shall not commit adultery.
You shall not steal.
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
You shall not covet.
Part of the ten laws broken down to various commands within one law:
Other gods and idols are as one not to worship, but broke down into two commands
Remember the Sabbath was added to the ten commandments by God as a remembrance of all God did in six days (Gods timing) and rested on the seventh, Genesis 2:1-3; Matthew 12:1-13
To establish courts of justice was only given to Noah for the new generations to come after the flood
Honor your father and mother was not given to Noah, but was added to the ten commandments by God as the generations grew.
Not to covet was added to the ten commandments by God, but broke down into seven commands as your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.
By who?
By whose authority?
The first commandment is ex 20:2-6
Thks
Meaning?Sigh.
Genesis 7:2
2 Of every (((clean beast))) thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are (((not clean))) by two, the male and his female.
Grace is God sharing His life with us
Only God has the authority to give His commandments first to Adam and then to Noah after the flood and then around 1000 years later to Moses after the exodus from Egypt for that of the Temple laws and moral laws that make up the 613 Mosaic laws in which Jesus has already fulfilled the Temple laws as we are all still under the moral laws until Christ returns fulfilling everything. This is why it is so important to also study the Biblical history and dates to know that Moses was born 1000 years approximately after the death of Noah.By who?
By whose authority?
The first commandment is ex 20:2-6
Thks
Sorry I meant the order of commandmentsOnly God has the authority to give His commandments first to Adam and then to Noah after the flood and then around 1000 years later to Moses after the exodus from Egypt for that of the Temple laws and moral laws that make up the 613 Mosaic laws in which Jesus has already fulfilled the Temple laws as we are all still under the moral laws until Christ returns fulfilling everything. This is why it is so important to also study the Biblical history and dates to know that Moses was born 1000 years approximately after the death of Noah.
Noah was born 2948BC in Shulon, East Eden and died 1998BC in Salem, Jerusalem, Canaan
Moses was born in Goshen, lower Egypt, around 1391BC and died in Mt Nebo, Moab, Transjordan around 1271BC
Sigh.
Genesis 7:2
2 Of every (((clean beast))) thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are (((not clean))) by two, the male and his female.
Meaning?
Moses was not the first to receive that which began with the seven commands of God in the days of Noah as only he found favor in the Lord before God brought the flood as all others others fell away from God denying His name.Sorry I meant the order of commandments
Example
Ex 20:2-6 constitutes the first commandment
Are you kidding?Moses was not the first to receive that which began with the seven commands of God in the days of Noah as only he found favor in the Lord before God brought the flood as all others others fell away from God denying His name.
Jewish Attitudes Toward Non-Jews - Judaism 101 (JewFAQ)
Judaism does not maintain that Jews are better than other people. This page explains the Jewish attitudes towards non-Jews.www.jewfaq.org
Where do you get that from?Are you kidding?
Gentiles are goyim ((cattle))
Pigs & goats