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Getting rid of stuff before you die

humble soul said:
Sometimes I feel we are in unnecessary conflict. Do you sometimes make mountains out of molehills?
I do that sometimes.
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I am interested in healing and that means to address and correct the things that cause the dissolution of one's relationship with God. You have said that you are lacking faith in the core message of the gospel, but have then gone and professed willingly, in an attempt to provide a healing word, the one core virtue of the Gospel message (John 1:12). I am also interested to uncover why you have seen my approach to that end as being an action toward conflict.
 
You might feel you are an easily misunderstood person. But I feel contradictions in what you say sometimes.
 
humble soul said:
You might feel you are an easily misunderstood person. But I feel contradictions in what you say sometimes.
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There is no contradiction in what I say, only in what you think I am saying. So don't allow yourself to think that I cannot perfectly reconcile and justify everything that I have said :) Do not hesitate to ask for an explanation if you think I should give one, ok?
 
humble soul said:
I intend to travel light into the next life. Gradually get rid of stuff.
You think we have an obligation to do that? So that people don't have so many things to throw away for you, after you die?
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I think we have an obligation to avoid collecting stuff that is not needed or used. My wife and I struggle with this a lot. She tends to collect things and struggles to get rid of what we don't need or use. She's always bringing stuff here to put in our basement or one of our sheds because, "It might be worth some money some day." I keep telling her, "It's worth nothing until you sell it."

Here's one example. When I met my wife she was big into equestrian sports. She was a member of the American Quarter Horse Association and the Minnesota Quarter Horse Association and she was constantly going from one horse show to another. There must be a two to three dozen trophies stuffed away in boxes around here. She owns a show saddle that she said cost about $10,000.00. It is or was very beautiful.

But today, she no longer rides. She hasn't been on a horse in over 20 years. Ten years ago she injured her back and today she would not be able to ride even if she wanted to. That beautiful saddle sits in our shed collecting dust and probably drying out and I'm sure the mice have had their way with the fleece underlining and blanket. It's probably worth a fraction of what it once was. She also hangs on to all her tack, blankets, and what not. None of it having been used in over 20 years. I keep telling her to sell that saddle and others but she refuses. I do not understand why myself. It's only stuff.

Don't even get me started on her closets and dressers full of clothing that don't even fit her anymore. I don't hang onto things if I have no more use for them. I'd rather let someone else have it that can put it to use.
 
WIP said:
I think we have an obligation to avoid collecting stuff that is not needed or used. My wife and I struggle with this a lot. She tends to collect things and struggles to get rid of what we don't need or use. She's always bringing stuff here to put in our basement or one of our sheds because, "It might be worth some money some day." I keep telling her, "It's worth nothing until you sell it."

Here's one example. When I met my wife she was big into equestrian sports. She was a member of the American Quarter Horse Association and the Minnesota Quarter Horse Association and she was constantly going from one horse show to another. There must be a two to three dozen trophies stuffed away in boxes around here. She owns a show saddle that she said cost about $10,000.00. It is or was very beautiful.

But today, she no longer rides. She hasn't been on a horse in over 20 years. Ten years ago she injured her back and today she would not be able to ride even if she wanted to. That beautiful saddle sits in our shed collecting dust and probably drying out and I'm sure the mice have had their way with the fleece underlining and blanket. It's probably worth a fraction of what it once was. She also hangs on to all her tack, blankets, and what not. None of it having been used in over 20 years. I keep telling her to sell that saddle and others but she refuses. I do not understand why myself. It's only stuff.

Don't even get me started on her closets and dressers full of clothing that don't even fit her anymore. I don't hang onto things if I have no more use for them. I'd rather let someone else have it that can put it to use.
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I think she just likes those things and in some way she knows that if she gets rid of them, she'll never see them again. It sounds like she probably misses the days when she used to wear those clothes and so keeping them is better than parting with the memories.
 
Scripture does seem to indicate that -if- one has surviving relatives, it is virtuous to leave them resources. other than that...??? I think there's a lot of leeway, especially if one does not have children, other dependents to think about.
 
humble soul said:
Ok , at the risk of sounding hypocritical, by seeking clarification, what is"good Christian taste" ?
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I couldn't really exhaustively answer that question in a few minutes, but for what it's worth (insofaras you are wanting to understand how to inspire my sense of humour) - we all develop a sense of taste based upon the person we become, and that is owed to the company we keep and our position of strength in that company - that causes us to make decisions as to what ideas we will open our mind to and what things we will view as being objectionable. So when you ask me to define "good Christian taste", I really can only tell you what it is that I find to be tasteful, and then to give you a Christian basis for that view. But I don't think it would be very helpful to get into granular lists here.
 
Serving Zion said:
I couldn't really exhaustively answer that question in a few minutes, but for what it's worth (insofaras you are wanting to understand how to inspire my sense of humour) - we all develop a sense of taste based upon the person we become, and that is owed to the company we keep and our position of strength in that company - that causes us to make decisions as to what ideas we will open our mind to and what things we will view as being objectionable. So when you ask me to define "good Christian taste", I really can only tell you what it is that I find to be tasteful, and then to give you a Christian basis for that view. But I don't think it would be very helpful to get into granular lists here.
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Ha...avoiding the question
 
WIP said:
I think we have an obligation to avoid collecting stuff that is not needed or used. My wife and I struggle with this a lot. She tends to collect things and struggles to get rid of what we don't need or use. She's always bringing stuff here to put in our basement or one of our sheds because, "It might be worth some money some day." I keep telling her, "It's worth nothing until you sell it."

Here's one example. When I met my wife she was big into equestrian sports. She was a member of the American Quarter Horse Association and the Minnesota Quarter Horse Association and she was constantly going from one horse show to another. There must be a two to three dozen trophies stuffed away in boxes around here. She owns a show saddle that she said cost about $10,000.00. It is or was very beautiful.

But today, she no longer rides. She hasn't been on a horse in over 20 years. Ten years ago she injured her back and today she would not be able to ride even if she wanted to. That beautiful saddle sits in our shed collecting dust and probably drying out and I'm sure the mice have had their way with the fleece underlining and blanket. It's probably worth a fraction of what it once was. She also hangs on to all her tack, blankets, and what not. None of it having been used in over 20 years. I keep telling her to sell that saddle and others but she refuses. I do not understand why myself. It's only stuff.

Don't even get me started on her closets and dressers full of clothing that don't even fit her anymore. I don't hang onto things if I have no more use for them. I'd rather let someone else have it that can put it to use.
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Sorry to hear about your wife,.. meanwhile I must write a memo to myself to leave the hundreds of stuffed animals I have behind,... unless of course I can be buried with them so I can take them to Heaven with me. And I mean that literally because of the fact that I have a bed, closet, and garage full of stuffed animals so if I was buried with them they would literally be buried with me. :lol
 
HeIsRisen2018 said:
Sorry to hear about your wife,.. meanwhile I must write a memo to myself to leave the hundreds of stuffed animals I have behind,... unless of course I can be buried with them so I can take them to Heaven with me. And I mean that literally because of the fact that I have a bed, closet, and garage full of stuffed animals so if I was buried with them they would literally be buried with me. :lol
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Sorry April it doesn't work like that :lol Not to worry you won't be thinking of them.
 
Tessa said:
Sorry April it doesn't work like that :lol Not to worry you won't be thinking of them.
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Maybe not, but I still want to be buried with my Patch stuffed animal from 101 Dalmatians since my grandparents gave him to me when I was three years old. :)
 
WIP said:
I think we have an obligation to avoid collecting stuff that is not needed or used. My wife and I struggle with this a lot. She tends to collect things and struggles to get rid of what we don't need or use. She's always bringing stuff here to put in our basement or one of our sheds because, "It might be worth some money some day." I keep telling her, "It's worth nothing until you sell it."

Here's one example. When I met my wife she was big into equestrian sports. She was a member of the American Quarter Horse Association and the Minnesota Quarter Horse Association and she was constantly going from one horse show to another. There must be a two to three dozen trophies stuffed away in boxes around here. She owns a show saddle that she said cost about $10,000.00. It is or was very beautiful.

But today, she no longer rides. She hasn't been on a horse in over 20 years. Ten years ago she injured her back and today she would not be able to ride even if she wanted to. That beautiful saddle sits in our shed collecting dust and probably drying out and I'm sure the mice have had their way with the fleece underlining and blanket. It's probably worth a fraction of what it once was. She also hangs on to all her tack, blankets, and what not. None of it having been used in over 20 years. I keep telling her to sell that saddle and others but she refuses. I do not understand why myself. It's only stuff.

Don't even get me started on her closets and dressers full of clothing that don't even fit her anymore. I don't hang onto things if I have no more use for them. I'd rather let someone else have it that can put it to use.
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I wonder if women reading with will sympathise more with your wife.
 
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