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I have heard of that and I have burned my hand doing that as well. it wasn't red and I thought it was cool enough to touch.
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Girl 9 Kills With A Uzi
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Edward
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Yeah it's good to let the barrel cool down. Shooting it hot can indeed shorten the service life of it. When you're under fire it stops meaning so much but for training and practice, be nice to your weapons and treat them with care. I don't shoot more than one mag full (30 rounds) without letting the barrel cool completely. open the action for air flow and shoot other weapons until it cools.
What I think is a good thing to do, is to shoot groups. I have one target that I shoot what i call "Hunters group" with it. Everyone knows that the first shot with a cold clean lubed weapon will throw the first shot off a little. (Lots of guys shoot what they call a fouling shot to dirty the barrel a little and get the lube out of it from storage, then shoot for accuracy groups.) But when the feces hits the fan, there will be no fouling shots or warm up. So when I go shooting, the very first shot of the day goes on a specific target, and only one shot is shot on this target. Then I save that target. This is the fouling shot per se. One shot per range trip. Over time a group will develop and you will learn where the first shot goes from a cold clean barrel.
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"Dude" is right, lol. In winter time when I go shooting 223's I use the barrel as a hand warmer after shooting...with gloves on of course, duh.
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with the 50 call and saw and m60 variants that is the case. the 50 call will ruin the whole weapon if the barrel is warped.they can if the threads on the lower receiver are ok still use it but if not tis off to the civy shop for some time. and $$$$$
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I have fired 200 rounds out my m16a2 and it didn't get that hot. of course that was a qual range and single shot is used. so its never consistently fired.
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I seen it turn red while I was firing it, and then it went white, and then it was his turn. So sarge told us that was enough get ready to pack up. And the dude grabbed it to try and lift it off off the tri pod. Man was he called all kinds of I can't say it here, but you know the language of the service.
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lucky his skin didn't melt to the weapon. the sergeant should have received an article 15 for that order. he could have waited a few minutes and then just removed the barrel.
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You're right, I had my mini-14 in mind when I wrote that and it has a very thin barrel which heats up fast. My HB Bushmaster does not heat up that fast as the Mini.
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not this day and age.yes he should have known better but the nco is the one whom is in charge. he should know and protect soldiers from the risks.
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You are right Jason, I remember one time at Fort Leonard Wood Missouri I pointed my M16 back towards the command observation tower instead of down range. A 2nd Lt blew his stack at me, he even took off his baseball cap and tapped me on the head with it.
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Mate, she's 9
And we wonder why the US has a problem with gun violence. It's bred into the culture.
Yes I agree as well.
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I think it's a good idea to teach kids about gun safety and proper handling when they are young, at least if they are living in an area where guns are common. I disagree that THIS is what propagates gun violence. But I agree with your sentiment. She's NINE! I've been wondering about that myself since hearing about it. Not really so sure teaching a 9 year old how to fire a fully automatic weapon was the right thing to do. (Besides, I thought all fully auto weapons were illegal for private use in the US... Am I wrong on that?) This certainly goes way beyond just teaching her how to be safe around guns, and even beyond how to safely use a gun if her family is one who uses guns for sport.
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Bit of a head scratcher, what a child would be doing with something that serves no purpose but to end human life.
Same thing up here even, cept it was starlings. My grandpa couldnt stomach those pests. Irresponsibility coupled with fear mongering can ruin any country i suppose.
Same thing up here even, cept it was starlings. My grandpa couldnt stomach those pests. Irresponsibility coupled with fear mongering can ruin any country i suppose.
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That's media hype mate. Paranoia bred into the minds of the uninformed to turn public sentiment against gun ownership so they can take them away. Yes, there are a lot of stupid people who do terribly wrong things with them and misuse them and don't know how to be safe with them, but these are the only ones that are covered in the media.
You hardly ever hear about people who do good things with guns because it's not newsworthy and doesn't fit into their agenda of taking them away. I grew up with loaded guns all over the house and we wandered the fields and country roads with AR-15's, shotguns, 22 rifles and all sorts of stuff and never had any tragedies or got in trouble.
I began teaching my kids about shooting and letting them shoot (with 110% supervision) when they were about 3 years old, shooting 223's full prone when they were about 5. They had multiple loaded handguns in their bedrooms at about age 10, and they never had a tragedy or accident because they were taught well by me and my wife. They grew up to be thieving punks and are on drugs but still have never done anything stupid with a gun...because they were taught well and it is inbred into them from what most would call a ridiculously young age.
They shot 22's for such a long time though, I didn't buy them more powerful weapons like 223's until they were much older, like 10 or 11 i think.
the nine year old girl in the story was probably new to guns in general, and a fully automatic gun is not a good gun to teach a youngster to shoot and be safe with. That was stupid. But it wasn't the gun and it isn't the culture, it was the individual stupidity of an individual who was zeroed in and and the story amplified because it sounds shocking and fits in with their agenda to ban guns.
So there's their story, and my story where powerful weapons were sitting all over the house and nothing ever happened...you haven't heard about me and my kids because we're boringly safe and have never killed anyone.