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Desire to be a vessel of honor unto the Lord Jesus Christ?
Join For His Glory for a discussion on how
https://christianforums.net/threads/a-vessel-of-honor.110278/
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Which Christians? Are you talking about Catholics who made up the Triune god?
Why dot you honor man-made doctrines and dishonor Jesus' own word?
that's what happens when you honor men and not God and Jesus' word makes up your own god.
Bull!Uh, no, no. You translation is absolutely incorrect. There are different Greek words for "divine," and "eternal," and "one," and "only," and none of them appear in John 1.1. You don't get to rewrite Greek and just decide willy nilly to mistranslate the verse, and decide the words mean something other than what they actually do mean just because you don't like what it says. Theos and Theov (Theon) mean the exact same thing = GOD. The only difference is -os indicates when God is the subject of the clause, while -ov (-on) indicates when God is the direct object.
ho [the] logos [word] en [was] pros [with] tov ( ton) [the] theov ( theon) [God]
The -os is the noun nominative case ending and indicates the subject. The Logos (word) is the subject of the clause
The -ov (-on) is the noun accusative case ending and indicates the direct object that receives the action of the verb. Theov ( theon) (God) is the direct object that receives the action of the verb + preposition ("was with"). Who was the logos (word) with? God.
Art-AMS = Article (the)--accusative, masculine, singular
N-AMS = Noun--accusative, masculine, singular
No, the earliest first century Christians like the apostle John who taught
"1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
You can "bull" all you like. You don't get to decide that words mean something different than what they actually do mean. I don't get to do that either. The scholarly concensus on John 1.1 is
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Your translation of John 1.1 is wrong. Thirty Bible translations all render it the same. Greek commentaries translate it the same. The world's Greek and New Testament scholars all translate it the same!
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
If you can convince the world's scholars that they're wrong and you're right, I'll believe you
Of course, you believe that. That's what you made is a triune god.
And it is still void of Jesus' own word.
still running and running from the simple truth.
Exodus 20:3
“You shall have no other gods before me.
Matthew 4:10
Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship (the Lord / Yahwah) your God, and serve him only.’”
Luke 4:8
Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Worship (the Lord / Yahwah) your God and serve him only.’”
Yahshua is not Yahwah.
John 5:41
“I do not accept glory from human beings,
“You shall have no other gods before me.
Matthew 4:10
Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship (the Lord / Yahwah) your God, and serve him only.’”
Luke 4:8
Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Worship (the Lord / Yahwah) your God and serve him only.’”
Yahshua is not Yahwah.
John 5:41
“I do not accept glory from human beings,
Yes, thirty Trinitarians.
“The third Person was asserted at a Council of Alexandria in 362…and finally by the Council of Constantinople of 381.”
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Actually, no. It has nothing to do with what I believe. If I don't like asparagus, I don't get to call it an apple. This is literally what John 1.1 says. And not you or I or anyone else can change it. It doesn't matter whether I'm a Christian or atheist. John 1.1 still says:
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
NT scholar, textual critic, and expert on the Greek NT manuscripts, Bart Ehrman is no friend of Christians and is in fact an atheist, but he'll tell you the same thing. John 1.1 says:
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
I'm sure everyone here is more than willing to look at all these other verses you are posting, but there's no point moving on to these other verses if you're not willing to acknowledge what literally the world's consensus of NT scholars (whether Christian, Jewish, or atheist) all say about John 1.1 that it says:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
When one party is unwilling to acknowledge basic points of fact in a discussion, then there's no way to have a meaningful discussion
You believe Jesus is God and Jesus claims otherwise.
Your belief has nothing to do with Jesus' own word.
Still running from simple Truth.
As I have stated before, simply posting verses without commentary as to your reasons for posting them is not helpful. Even atheists can post scripture; it doesn't mean they understand what they've posted.
And yet you have continually avoided addressing the arguments being made, including the Greek of John 1:1. At the core of Christianity is the belief that Jesus is God. Indeed, there is no salvation if he isn't. Jesus claimed to be God and that is precisely why John, Paul, and Peter wrote that Jesus was God.
Jesus is Yahweh but Yahweh isn't Jesus. To say that Yahweh is the Father's name is begging the question.