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Giving Thanks.

Dave...

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Do you give thanks to God before dinner, or, for that matter, before you eat at any time?

It was you who worked for the money, went to the store to buy the food, and prepared the food to eat, right?

Why would you thank God for that?

Or to use someone else's line of reasoning...

Does God get the food for you?

Does this violate your free will?
 
Do you give thanks to God before dinner, or, for that matter, before you eat at any time?

It was you who worked for the money, went to the store to buy the food, and prepared the food to eat, right?

Why would you thank God for that?

Or to use someone else's line of reasoning...

Does God get the food for you?

Does this violate your free will?
I give thanks to God, in the name of Jesus Christ, for all that I eat.
I also give thanks to God, in the name of Jesus Christ, for all the medicines and med' equipment I use.
I also give God the thanks He deserves for many other things He provides.
Giving God my thanks is done by my free will.
 
,Do you give thanks to God before dinner, or, for that matter, before you eat at any time?
I tha know God for each day I have, for each meal I eat and for his salvation.

Yes I am able to work, to pay my way, be active etc etc.

This is all due to God's grace, love and mercy.
Sure I still have to work, shop, cook, wash up etc etc but it all comes from God.
 
I give thanks to God, in the name of Jesus Christ, for all that I eat.
I also give thanks to God, in the name of Jesus Christ, for all the medicines and med' equipment I use.
I also give God the thanks He deserves for many other things He provides.
Giving God my thanks is done by my free will.
Hi Hope and who

Can you elaborate? How did God provide?

Dave
 
I give thanks to God, in the name of Jesus Christ, for all that I eat.
I also give thanks to God, in the name of Jesus Christ, for all the medicines and med' equipment I use.
I also give God the thanks He deserves for many other things He provides.
Giving God my thanks is done by my free will.
Ok, I'm back :thm

Hope, you made the choices to do those things necessary for the food and medicine, right? The only way that God can also choose, provide, and prepare those things, there would need to be an overlapping of your will and Gods sovereignty over all those same things. Do you agree? Some people would call this a tension. The tension is not in the scripture, but in our understanding of it.

Just thinking to myself as I write. Reminds me of...

Psalm 37:4 Delight yourself also in the LORD, And He shall give you the desires of your heart.

Some people believe that this passage is speaking about God putting His desires into our heart. Either way, I always believed that He always answers prayer that is according to His will. This is why Jesus taught us to pray "not my will but your will be done".

Dave
 
Hi Dave...
You know, there's a joke that goes something like this:

A man stood up before God and pointed his finger in his face and declared, "Hey, you're not so great! I can create a man, too! Watch!"

So the man bends down to scoop up a handful of dirt to form a man and God stops him and says, "You'll have to get your own dirt."

Yes, you worked to put food on your table. Good for you. God made it grow. God created the seed that man plants in the ground. The account of the creation says that God created all the plants with seed of their own kind. God sent the rain that watered the ground, even if the farmer used some pump to bring it up out of the ground or out of some lake. And all you did was work to get the money to go buy what God carefully crafted for you to eat to sustain your life on the earth.

Trust me, friend, God did more to put that meal before you than you did. He created the cows and pigs and the chickens. Where are you going to get those if God didn't make them. So as you sit down to eat your meal that you believe only you worked to set before you, remember... "Get your own dirt!"

Where did that corn come from? Out of your closet? No! Absolutely not! That corn came out of some farmer's field. Planted in simple dirt and watered and fed and a corn plant grew because God created the plant to do that. To set roots and to grow with the shining of the sun and the falling of the rain that are only things that He can do. Without those two pieces, you don't get any corn on your plate. Nor any meat from the animal that wasn't created by God.

And all you did was go to the store and buy what God had produced for you to eat and you think you've done all the work. Dave, when you get to stand before the Lord, be sure and point out that you worked harder than he did for your meals.
 
Ok, I'm back :thm
Hope, you made the choices to do those things necessary for the food and medicine, right?
Of course.
The only way that God can also choose, provide, and prepare those things, there would need to be an overlapping of your will and Gods sovereignty over all those same things. Do you agree?
I don't know about that, as God has provided things I didn't even know I needed.
Some people would call this a tension. The tension is not in the scripture, but in our understanding of it.
That is an odd word with which to describe parallel wills.
Just thinking to myself as I write. Reminds me of...
Psalm 37:4 Delight yourself also in the LORD, And He shall give you the desires of your heart.
Some people believe that this passage is speaking about God putting His desires into our heart. Either way, I always believed that He always answers prayer that is according to His will. This is why Jesus taught us to pray "not my will but your will be done".
God certainly won't provide things desired to accomplish ungodly things.
And just because we ask for something, is no reason God must comply with our wishes.
Even if our wills agree, God just might say..."Later".
 
In theological circles, what I described above is called compatibilism. This tension, is with our logically trying to understand it.

I had some other stuff posted but erased it. I decided not to go in that direction. Let me think a while and carry on if you wish.

Dave
 
In theological circles, what I described above is called compatibilism. This tension, is with our logically trying to understand it.

I had some other stuff posted but erased it. I decided not to go in that direction. Let me think a while and carry on if you wish.

Dave
After looking up "compatibilism", and rereading your post #11, your understanding of..."And He shall give you the desires of your heart." seems too 'out there' to really comment on.
If God were making us desire things wouldn't the verse say..."And He shall give you things to desire in your heart." ?

Let's leave this side track for some other thread.
 
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