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God Does Not Want Me to Drink Coffee

Jay T said:
Alcohol is a poison, it has absolute no nutritional value.
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According to the Mayo Clinic (which I understand to be a highly regarded medical facility):

Moderate alcohol consumption may provide some health benefits. It may:

- Reduce your risk of developing heart disease, peripheral vascular disease and intermittent claudication

- Reduce your risk of dying of a heart attack

- Possibly reduce your risk of strokes, particularly ischemic strokes

- Lower your risk of gallstones

- Possibly reduce your risk of diabetes
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Of course, the clinic also lists the risks associated with excessive alcohol consumption.
 
Hi Drew,

Jay is looking at this from a nutritional point of view, not a medicinal point of view. However, I agree with you and your findings. 8-)
 
Jay T said:
Alcohol is a poison, it has absolute no nutritional value.

Jesus Christ was trying to build up humanity, not tear it down.
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I don't care of alcohol is the most toxic substance in the world, Jesus drank. The Bible says so. That settles it (if you believe the Bible).
 
Poke said:
Jay T said:
Alcohol is a poison, it has absolute no nutritional value.

Jesus Christ was trying to build up humanity, not tear it down.
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I don't care of alcohol is the most toxic substance in the world, Jesus drank. The Bible says so. That settles it (if you believe the Bible).
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Did you miss the part where Jesus refused to drink Vinegar, which is a very mild form, of alcohol ?
 
Jay T said:
Did you miss the part where Jesus refused to drink Vinegar, which is a very mild form, of alcohol ?
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Yes, I didn miss the part where Jesus refused it. Maybe you could point it out.

Besides, so what if he did. That wouldn't mean that the other times he didn't drink.
 
Poke said:
Jay T said:
Did you miss the part where Jesus refused to drink Vinegar, which is a very mild form, of alcohol ?
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Yes, I didn miss the part where Jesus refused it. Maybe you could point it out.

Besides, so what if he did. That wouldn't mean that the other times he didn't drink.
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Never mind then.
 
Jay T said:
Never mind then.
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Good for you, because you are wrong about Jesus refusing the wine vinegar. Jesus refused gall, not vinegar.
 
If Jesus never drank wine, then why did the Pharisees call him a drunkard. If Jesus just drank grape juice, wouldn't that be like calling Nicole Richie a glutton?
 
I hate coffee, and tea, and alcohol, and cigarettes. I hate them all with a passion. Either I hate the taste, or I hate what they do to people, or I just hate them in general. When I eventually move into my own place, you won't see any coffee, tea, alcohol, or cigarettes in my kitchen. :-D
 
Did you miss the part where Jesus refused to drink Vinegar, which is a very mild form, of alcohol ?
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How many people do you know that drink vinegar straight? :lol: That was done mockingly and in cruelty. Thats why you don't see vinegar on the store shelf next to gatorade. Ever leave a bottle of open wine out for a few days and you can see that the alcohol is oxidized into acid which makes the drink taste flat and very bland.

I was told as a kid that wine in the Bible was unfermented grape juice. The people who told me that knew absolutely nothing about wine or the chemical process of making wine and even vinegar. In addition to that they also carried had an extreme hate for it to begin with. Now I agree alcohol can be missused and certainly abused... but none of that is a good reason to misguide others with flat out lies. Lies protect no one, all they do is provide doubt and discredit to the source that provides them. When you hold on to those lies as they were told to you without testing them, you inevitably become the fool who will believe anything.

They had no way to stop fermentation.
 
ChristineES said:
If Jesus never drank wine, then why did the Pharisees call him a drunkard. If Jesus just drank grape juice, wouldn't that be like calling Nicole Richie a glutton?
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The Pharisees also accused Jesus Christ of breaking the sabbath too....WHICH HE DID NOT !
Religious leaders are most often turning people, away from God.
 
Man you people sure don't take guided direction and hints very well, do you?

Vic and other mods have tried again and again to tell you to take your alcohol discussion to another thread as the topic of this thread is...

COFFEE AND TEA!!!!!

again...

COFFEE AND TEA!!!!!

and just in case you forgot and start talking about ALCOHOL again...

the topic here on this thread is...

COFFEE AND TEA!!!!!

Did you get the obvious hints here or are you going to continue to talk about alcohol and end up getting this thread shut down??
 
I have never had a cup of coffee in my life. I have had a sip, thought it was nasty, and have never touched it since. I am, however, a tea-nik. I love my tea. Cold tea with lemon and Splenda(no sugar---I'm diabetic) all year round, green tea especially. The health benefits of green tea are indisputable(lowers Blood Pressure---I have High BP, also), so I have no intention of giving up tea.
 
ZeroTX said:
Source? Other than the infallible doctrines of Jay T?

How was this juice preserved for drinking without spoiling? Fermentation was the process of making the wine safe for storage in wineskins and later consumption. While it is true, the wine of the time may have been less potent than modern day wine or even the wine of the Middle Ages, it is indeed fermented, alcohol-containing wine.

Why do you suppose the wedding guests at the wedding at Cana were normally to drink the better wine at first, then the poorer wine later because... they preferred bad grape juice later in the day?... or because normally an intoxicated person is less picky about the quality of the wine?...

Go out and squeeze some grapes into a bottle... store it, unrefrigerated for 6 months and give it a good swig. Let me know how your toilet visits are that day.

-Michael
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Not to mention the fact that Bible warns us not be "drunk" on wine. Having a hard time believing that the wine of the Bible was unfermented.
 
guibox said:
Man you people sure don't take guided direction and hints very well, do you?

Vic and other mods have tried again and again to tell you to take your alcohol discussion to another thread as the topic of this thread is...

COFFEE AND TEA!!!!!

again...

COFFEE AND TEA!!!!!

and just in case you forgot and start talking about ALCOHOL again...

the topic here on this thread is...

COFFEE AND TEA!!!!!

Did you get the obvious hints here or are you going to continue to talk about alcohol and end up getting this thread shut down??
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So we can discuss Long Island Ice Tea and Bailey's Irish Cream Coffee!! 8-) :-D
 
Any addiction to any substance is enough to keep a person out of heaven.....as the Gospel of Jesus Christ promises freeedom !

The freedom of being able to say, NO......is guaranteed to every believer in Christ Jesus.

Addictions, are defined, as a dependence on a substance that one cannot do without.

Smokers,for example, will not be allowed into heaven.....because smoking is putting poisionous substances, into the body, which God declares as HIS Temple.
 
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