God Does Not Want Me to Drink Coffee

[Solo]

Any addiction to any substance is enough to keep a person out of heaven.....as the Gospel of Jesus Christ promises freeedom !

The freedom of being able to say, NO......is guaranteed to every believer in Christ Jesus.

Addictions, are defined, as a dependence on a substance that one cannot do without.

Smokers,for example, will not be allowed into heaven.....because smoking is putting poisionous substances, into the body, which God declares as HIS Temple.

What if you are addicted to a lifestyle of false doctrines? Will you be allowed into heaven?

 

[Lewis]

Also... sorry Michael, there is no real tea in a Long Island Iced Tea... trust me!

Why didn't you tell me ?

 

[Jay T]

What if you are addicted to a lifestyle of false doctrines? Will you be allowed into heaven?

Anyone who keeps all God's commandments.....CANNOT, and WILL NOT be punished, Because they are doing the Lord's will.

If Jesus Christ said to keep the commandments, and a person does so, how can they be punished, for doing exactly what Jesus says to do ?

God has promised a blessing upon those who keep the commandments !
AND, promised them entrance into heaven, to get at the Tree of life (Revelation 22:14)

As for those who hold false doctrines such as Sunday worship services....the Rapture theory....that Man, has an Immortal soul....ect....ect...are termed as liars.....
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.


BUT, those who follow Jesus Christ and what HE said, and to do what HE said are guaranteed eternal life in the New Earth and New Heavens.

 

[Solo]

Anyone who keeps all God's commandments.....CANNOT, and WILL NOT be punished, Because they are doing the Lord's will.

If Jesus Christ said to keep the commandments, and a person does so, how can they be punished, for doing exactly what Jesus says to do ?

God has promised a blessing upon those who keep the commandments !
AND, promised them entrance into heaven, to get at the Tree of life (Revelation 22:14)

As for those who hold false doctrines such as Sunday worship services....the Rapture theory....that Man, has an Immortal soul....ect....ect...are termed as liars.....
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.


BUT, those who follow Jesus Christ and what HE said, and to do what HE said are guaranteed eternal life in the New Earth and New Heavens.

Jesus said to beware of those false doctrines and false teachers. You are showing yourself to be a false teacher by ignoring the Scriptures. You have yet to reply to any Scriptural debate on being born again, the Sermon on the mount, Jesus' commandments and other posts that I have posted to show your doctrines false. You continue to propagandize this forum with your false doctrines. The depth of your understanding is shallow, and you could just clip and paste your answers from one day to the next without much thought (as you do).

You are a moderator, and you do not even follow the Terms of Service or the Statement of Faith of this forum. Why is that?

 

[Jay T]

You are a moderator, and you do not even follow the Terms of Service or the Statement of Faith of this forum. Why is that?

I'm not sure you'd understand, since you have already admitted, that you are at WAR....against God......

 

[Solo]

I'm not sure you'd understand, since you have already admitted, that you are at WAR....against God......

I am at WAR with YOUR god. You will end up in the lake of fire with him if you do not repent and become a born again believer.

 

[jgredline]

As for those who hold false doctrines such as Sunday worship services....the Rapture theory....that Man, has an Immortal soul....ect....ect...are termed as liars.....

JAY T
I would like to challenge you to a one on one debate on these heresys that you are preaching including that one must keep the 10 commandments to get into heaven and we will also discuss ELLEN G WHITE....I for one am tired of your constant bashing and demeaning of members of this forum. I am tired of you as a ''MOD'' being against the very TOS of this website. You are a hypocrite and I will expose you as one, if you are man enough to take up the challenge....Let me know.
Lets see what your made of...
jg

 

[fcs25]

: Some Christians appear to be dumber than a rock.Is it any wonder we are laughed at by the general public.Your salvation depends on nothing you do and that includes what you eat or drink.......give me a break!!!

 

[tim-from-pa]

As a guy almost hitting 50, I found that as I age coffee and tea destroy my stomach. Now I constantly drink rum and cokes (or wine) and find myself much better! :-D

 

[Vic C.]

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fcs25, lets try and avoid comments like the "rock" one above. Thanks.

 

[Jay T]

: Some Christians appear to be dumber than a rock.Is it any wonder we are laughed at by the general public.Your salvation depends on nothing you do and that includes what you eat or drink.......give me a break!!!

I see that you have not read what Jesus Christ said, as evidenced by your statement above.

 

[happiejack00]

I have not posted in a very long time but what I have been reading here is just absoutely made me stop and have to say something. Jay T. who are you? What is your thinking? Are you telling me I am not going to heaven. Because I have ask Jesus into my life, ask for forgiveness of my sins, I believe in the bible, I believe Jesus died for our sins, I believe you are to love your neighbor as yourself and take care of widows and orphans including people I don't always care for. Now I try my best to do everyday the things Jesus would have me do. I don't always make it, I sometimes fall but I pray about those things too. So because I drink tea, coffee, sometimes wine (and that means sometimes not every day), I eat pork, etc, etc, etc. are you saying I am going to hell? Please explain because my Jesus and my bible which is the King James does not say that.
thank you
happiejack

 

[Jay T]

I have not posted in a very long time but what I have been reading here is just absoutely made me stop and have to say something. Jay T. who are you? What is your thinking? Are you telling me I am not going to heaven. Because I have ask Jesus into my life, ask for forgiveness of my sins, I believe in the bible, I believe Jesus died for our sins, I believe you are to love your neighbor as yourself and take care of widows and orphans including people I don't always care for. Now I try my best to do everyday the things Jesus would have me do. I don't always make it, I sometimes fall but I pray about those things too. So because I drink tea, coffee, sometimes wine (and that means sometimes not every day), I eat pork, etc, etc, etc. are you saying I am going to hell? Please explain because my Jesus and my bible which is the King James does not say that.
thank you
happiejack

Remember....anyone can change, as long as they are alive, and have a sound mind.

Isaiah 66:15 For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
66:16 For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.
(Description of Christ's 2nd coming.....)
66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one [tree] in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

 

[Solo]

Remember....anyone can change, as long as they are alive, and have a sound mind.

Isaiah 66:15 For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
66:16 For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.
(Description of Christ's 2nd coming.....)
66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one [tree] in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

DO NOT BE LED ASTRAY BY THE FALSE TEACHINGS OF THE SEVENTH DAY ADVENTISTS

God told Noah that he could eat whatever moved upon the earth.

1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth. 2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered. 3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. Genesis 9:1-3

The Law of Moses was a contentious point between the Apostles early on, and after discussion it was concluded that the Law of Moses was not circumstantial for one to be saved, nor did the Apostles command anyone that they were required to keep it. The only thing that the Apostles commanded believers to be in obedience to were: to abstain from meats offered to idols, to abstain from eathing blood from animals that were strangled, and to abstain from fornication. We find the truth in Acts 15.

1 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved. 2 When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question. 3 And being brought on their way by the church, they passed through Phenice and Samaria, declaring the conversion of the Gentiles: and they caused great joy unto all the brethren. 4 And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church, and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them. 5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. 6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter. 7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe. 8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; 9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. 10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? 11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they. 12 Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them. 13 And after they had held their peace, James answered, saying, Men and brethren, hearken unto me: 14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name. 15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written, 16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up: 17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things. 18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world. 19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: 20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood. 21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day. 22 Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren: 23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia: 24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment: 25 It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, 26 Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same things by mouth. 28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; 29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well. 30 So when they were dismissed, they came to Antioch: and when they had gathered the multitude together, they delivered the epistle: 31 Which when they had read, they rejoiced for the consolation. Acts 151-31


The New Covenant did what the Old Covenant did not. The ability to abide in the one who fulfilled the Law of God, thereby, nailing the salvation through the keeping of the Law to the cross, and replacing it with the faith in the ONLY ONE who could keep the entire LAW, JESUS CHRIST.


13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; 14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; 15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. 16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. 18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, 19 And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God. 20 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances, 21 (Touch not; taste not; handle not; 22 Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men? 23 Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.
Colossians 2:13-23

Seventh-day Adventists that depend on their ability to keep the Law of Moses according to their belief system will be sadly awakened on judgment day; only those who have been born again through faith in Jesus Christ will enter the Kingdom of God.

 

[dancing queen]

Afterall, if you had to keep the law to enter heaven it would be a very quiet place

We don't deserve to go to heaven, that's the whole point and why we are saved through grace and not our own ability.

 

[Solo]

Afterall, if you had to keep the law to enter heaven it would be a very quiet place

We don't deserve to go to heaven, that's the whole point and why we are saved through grace and not our own ability.

Jesus would be the only one there! :D
I know not one Israelite has kept the 10 commandments, and not one SDA has kept the 10 commandments, but the SDA bunch is working to get 144,000 sinfree folks accumulated so that Jesus will return. :roll:

 

[Jay T]

Afterall, if you had to keep the law to enter heaven it would be a very quiet place

We don't deserve to go to heaven, that's the whole point and why we are saved through grace and not our own ability.

Jesus Christ knows what is required to enter heaven.....and when HE says to keep the commandments as one of those requirements, I believe Jesus Christ knows what HE is talking about !

It is because the modern Christian world does not....know what Salvation consists of that Jesus made this statement:
7:21 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven".

 

[dancing queen]

As Christians we will try and follow the commandments because we love God.

You saying it requires keeping the commandments to enter heaven, does this mean that my non-Christian friend who doesn't believe but only sees Christ as a good teacher and follows the commandments of the Bible because they seem the best way to live, will get into heaven?

 

[Solo]

Jesus Christ knows what is required to enter heaven.....and when HE says to keep the commandments as one of those requirements, I believe Jesus Christ knows what HE is talking about !

It is because the modern Christian world does not....know what Salvation consists of that Jesus made this statement:
7:21 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven".

What commandments do Christians of "the modern Christian" world not keep?

Perhaps you are just harping that Christians do not follow your commandments. Those that I know keep the commandments of God better than most Seventh-day Adventists.

 

[Oscar3]

Jay T
There is a gladiator waiting for you in the debate forum. Just thought you might like to know :-D