God is Unity and Love

[SyntaxVorlon]

Ah, the old all nonchristians sacrifice humans to the demon gods. Iä Iä Cthuhu fhtagn.
Ph'nglui mglw'nath Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagi fhtagn.

 

[soma]

Christian Pro, I didn't say he died for religions you said that. I said he died for all people. God is all powerful so why do you give satan so much power, if you walk with the Lord no one can hurt you. Put down your spear and open your hands and heart to recieve the grace of love. Let go of the fear and enjoy the grace of God and fellowship.

 

[evanman]

Syntax Vorlon, the photo that Willow posted was a photo of one of the ceremonies practiced at the Bohemian grove in California. There they sacrifice effergies to their Owl God Molech.

Jesus Christ suffered and died for the sins of mankind, however, this suffering and death only atones for those that believe!

 

[Blazin Bones]

Soma, I following your points my friend. While some find it wasteful to make longer posts, say what you want in one clear concise post. I really don't think we are disagreeing here.

 

[willow the wip]

Soma you controdict your self their again satan cannot have any power execpt for the power God gives him.

so no you cannot give satan power anyway.

soma you give the devil more credit then he is worth.

I cannot have unity with the preasts of Ba `al

If you were at the time of shedrack misheck and abednago then you would most likely submit to the religion of the King.

you see you can worship any God as they say but u have to bow to Ba`al this is ecumenical unity.

 

[soma]

I say there is only one God. Are you saying there are more than one God? Satan has power over the people that let him in their life and mind. The people who concentrate on Satan rather than the strongest force God the Father are giving him power in their lives.

 

[willow the wip]

Soma you controdict your self yet again.

By having spritual unity with moslems your saying that to a moslem that Allah is the supream god.

so they for to have unity with people from diffrent religous status then you compromise with that by accepting Buddah, Vishnu, Allah, Ba`al and many more when will it stop.

then if all these gods and goddesses are the one true God then your mistaken for some thing that is extra Biblical knowlege,

Gods says not to have anything before him God is a jellous God and an angry one at that in all His ways are Good and just.

Can you have unity with wiccans, pagans and witches ???????

with those who worship the gods and the goddess euralga who is the suprime force that all energy is being controlled by her.

sure go and have unity with these people also.

 

[soma]

Christ consciousness purifies the image of God in our minds, cures our spiritual blindness and opens our consciousness to the unity of all things. It takes possession of our wills so we no longer remain captive
to our desires, passions, compulsions and prejudices. Christ consciousness makes us capable of acting in the productive tranquility of love and spiritual freedom. By teaching us love Jesus perfects our minds in the likeness of pure consciousness by conforming us to Christ onsciousness. This is more than the imitation of his virtues, but a union of consciousness that makes us the individuals, God intends us to be. To enter into this consciousness we must identify with Christ, the Father and all of his creation in one pure consciousness. To break up old patterns of thought and behavior, we need to open ourselves up to a new consciousness. This consciousness is a power greater than our minds because it created everything around us. Christ consciousness helps us to acquire a new understanding of our unity with God so we deeply sense this unity within ourselves and become aware of the limitless resources of pure consciousness and its perfect exchange of life, power and charisma. As our concerns fade away Christ consciousness lifts us out of our problems and minds to experience peace and a sense of joy that completely convinces us that all is well. Christ consciousness is an inner tool, a powerful tool that we carry around, and the more we use it the more we will benefit. Becoming aware of it in the world around us and within our own nature will bring remarkable results.

 

[willow the wip]

so their fore were do you draw the line the Bible says and i quote.

Ephesians 5:11: "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of
darkness, but rather expose them."

2 John 1:9-11: "Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him; for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds."


2 Corinthians 6:14-18: "Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness? And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever? And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God. As God has said: 'I will dwell in them And walk among them. I will be their God, And they shall be My people.' Therefore 'Come out from among them and be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, And I will receive you. 'I will be a Father to you, And you shall be My sons and daughters, says the LORD Almighty.'"


are you going to be dissobediant to the intruction of God for compromisation with others.

Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of
old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our
God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord
Jesus Christ.


1Ti 4:16; Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.

This is a warning to you take heed meaning something important to take notice this will save you from falling into error because by doing so you’re not sitting back and taking the person’s word for it. We should also be on guard so that if when we talk to others they do not fall for this! We have to be careful.

1Ti 1:13; Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did [it] ignorantly in unbelief.


Titus 1:9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.

We are told to practice what we have been taught to be out spoken we as believers cannot sit there and keep silent.

Titus 2:1 But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine

Jude 1:10; But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.

 

[soma]

I live in the world with many people. Jesus walked among the sinners and sick and those were the people he served. He didn't condemn them and he wasn't afraid. In the beatitudes Jesus said if you feed a person who is hungrey you are feeding me ect. for shelter and other physcial need also. He is my savior and example how to live a good life.

 

[Blazin Bones]

I live in the world with many people. Jesus walked among the sinners and sick and those were the people he served. He didn't condemn them and he wasn't afraid. In the beatitudes Jesus said if you feed a person who is hungrey you are feeding me ect. for shelter and other physcial need also. He is my savior and example how to live a good life.

I agree, Jesus is the best Role model.

 

[evanman]

I live in the world with many people. Jesus walked among the sinners and sick and those were the people he served. He didn't condemn them and he wasn't afraid. In the beatitudes Jesus said if you feed a person who is hungrey you are feeding me ect. for shelter and other physcial need also. He is my savior and example how to live a good life.

Mt 25:40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

Jesus wasn't saying if you feed everybody we feed Him! What He stated was that to feed one of the least of His brethren was to feed Him!

This is a misconception that is humanistic in origin!

 

[Henry]

Soma

You keep refereing the the biblical text, but you also keep twisting it out of context.

When you mentoined Jesus talking about feeding HIS brethern. You must not understand that in the text, he is talking about judgement. People are going to hell in that text, and not only that Jesus said that if you did not beleive in him you would go to hell.

Jesus said he came the first time to save the world, but he is coming back to judge the world at another time.

And if you are not in Jesus when the happens, well you are going to hell. Not my idea, that is what Jesus said.

Really, if you are not going to use the bible in context they why use it all.

 

[willow the wip]

Soma Just becouse Jesus Befrended a prostitute dose that make him a pimp.

NO

Jesus did not do what they did thus he did not have the same unity that he did with other believers.

Read your bible again.

2 Corinthians 6:14-18: "Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness? And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever? And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God. As God has said: 'I will dwell in them And walk among them. I will be their God, And they shall be My people.' Therefore 'Come out from among them and be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, And I will receive you. 'I will be a Father to you, And you shall be My sons and daughters, says the LORD Almighty.'"

 

[soma]

Are we in a position to judge others, when we can't see behind their eyes? The accusations we throw at others with one pointed finger has three fingers pointing back at us. The Bible should be used for inspiration and personal enlightenment not as a weapon to condemn, threaten and push others away. Enjoy God and His creation. He will judge so you don't have to throw such heavy stones.

 

[evanman]

Eph 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

We are not to judge unbelievers, but we ARE to test what people teach and denounce that which is contrary to sound doctrine!

 

[Blazin Bones]

Great Point Evanman. 8-)

 

[soma]

I agree it is all about Jesus and love. Do not be a Christian Bully throwing quotes at people putting them down, condemning them to hell and calling them names just because they don't belong to your group. This might make you ego big, but it does not make you a better Christian. It goes against what Jesus preached and it only drives away people who might be interested in Christ. We all read the Bible so don't just cut and paste from it. We want you to debate the issue rationally. Jesus preached love which is not condemnation.

 

[willow the wip]

Yes ok when a moslem gets at the pearly Gates it will be "their their pat on the back well done allah`s Good and faithfull servent you may enter".

Untill they repent and accept Jesus they will not be accepted.

 

[Blazin Bones]

Yes, willow that is very true. God is indeed a God of Unity and Love, but whether or not every one wil except these things is up to them.