God is Unity and Love

[spiritfilled7]

Soma: I am new to the forum now and I agree with you. God is all powerful. We must love without condemnation. There is so much disunity in our world today between religions and cultures. We need to be like Christ and Love all people as He did. God bless you and I look forward to talking with you.

 

[Vic C.]

Soma: I am new to the forum now and I agree with you. God is all powerful. We must love without condemnation. There is so much disunity in our world today between religions and cultures. We need to be like Christ and Love all people as He did. God bless you and I look forward to talking with you.

I don't know Davey! 8-) That sounds very ecumenical to me. Am I correct in assuming that you and Soma do not agree with the verses Evanman posted? Our best weapon and shield IS the Word of God.

Mat 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Mat 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Mat 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

Not all will agree with God's Truth and Jesus was well aware of that.

 

[willow the wip]

yes we need to be like Jesus as he once said

"you hipocrites, you brood of vipers".

 

[evanman]

I agree it is all about Jesus and love. Do not be a Christian Bully throwing quotes at people putting them down, condemning them to hell and calling them names just because they don't belong to your group. This might make you ego big, but it does not make you a better Christian. It goes against what Jesus preached and it only drives away people who might be interested in Christ. We all read the Bible so don't just cut and paste from it. We want you to debate the issue rationally. Jesus preached love which is not condemnation.

You judge me harshly!

I condemn no man--all men are under condemnation unless they repent and turn to Jesus!
I call no man names, it is God that describes what people are not I.
Jesus preached love, true, but he also preached and taught many other things too!

He had very harsh things to say about some people, called them hypocrits, vipers, sons of the devil, murderers, theives and robbers, blind, foxes! These were not nice words to use about anybody, in fact they are down right insulting--but they were true!

He is our example therefore we must learn to live as He taught us and showed us. The Apostles too spoke harshly at times.

 

[Blazin Bones]

Love can be bold and urgent. That is why love often seems harsh. We've been talking about this in apologetics. Even God himself dealt harshly with Miriam, but he still loved his creation.

 

[soma]

I believe in the Christian’s consciousness of acceptance that there is one God and that He created all things is a conceptual truth that frees the mind to think of God all the time. This should relax the emotions so we can praise everything as good because it came from God. If we are not happy or need to go after others because they don't believe as we do then something is wrong. Enjoy the grace of God and have faith that the Almighty will take care of things. We don't have to be the Hitlers of the World.

 

[Gary]

Soma Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 11:37 pm Post subject: good book
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I read a great book called "Evolution of Consciousness" by John Kuykendall . It presents Christian wisdom with philosophy and psychology to go beyond the limitations of conceptual thought in religion today to calm and ground the mind and initiate deep internal healing. It is a journey towards unity and a new way of living. Its uniqueness lies in a psycho-spiritual development where religion and science strengthen each other’s belief because they are both concerned with what is true. It goes on to say that science and Christianity were not meant to live alone divorced from each other. I feel it provided my intellect a richer inner meaning to life on a path to spiritual awareness by unfolding the layers of the mind using matter, mind and spirit. It cleared up the world that intersects science and Christianity so they are both correct in their theories of evolution. I think it is cutting edge comprehension.

Somasoma77 Aug-13-04, 01:31 PM
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Greetings, I read a book titled "Evolution of Consciousness" By John Kuykendall. This book is a step by step excursion into the unfolding of consciousness. It merges science and spirituality in simple Christian terms to attune the reader to body, mind, and spirit. The book begins with the knowledge of our oneness with a God that is everywhere in pure consciousness and then it leads one to the ultimate Christian goal. The book attunes the reader to science and spirituality because they are not divorced, but compliment each other. Scientist and prophets through out all the ages of civilization have recognized the immense power that governs and controls the universe. You can view the web site at http://www.geocities.com/trinitypublishing2004/ This book explains everything in an interesting way what we have faith in, but could not explain: Trinity, evolution and how God is one.

soma77 7/27/04 10:44:24 PM
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Greetings, I read a book titled "Evolution of Consciousness" By John Kuykendall. This book is a step by step excursion into the unfolding of consciousness. It merges science and spirituality and Eastern and Western Philosophy to attune the reader to body, mind, and spirit. The book begins with the knowledge of our oneness with a God that is everywhere in pure consciousness and then it leads one to the ultimate Christian goal. The book attunes the reader to science and spirituality and Eastern and Western philosophy because they are not divorced, but compliment each other

somasoma77 - 07:46pm Aug 16, 2004 (30.)
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The young people today view science and religion as two radically different ways to understand the world, but religion and science strengthen each other's belief because they are both concerned with what is true. Science and spirituality are not divorced so we should attune ourselves to them because they compliment each other. Evolution is a good case that should be discussed in both formats so the materialistic youth will understand. I am currently reading a book called “Evolution of Consciousness†by John Kuykendall. It explains evolution so the scientist and the theologian are both correct. "Science and religion were not meant to live alone in isolation, divorced from each other so tear down the barricades that divide them because faith and reason are meant to live happily together. Reason does not destroy faith, but fulfills it so we can use our intelligence as a path to spiritual awareness and when our intellect can say no more, our instinctive spiritual view of life will take over. This provides us with a kind of intuitive perception of God as He is reflected in creation...... Let the scientists and the Christians go on developing methods to understand the universe because with their discoveries and inventions we can split apart the physical and spiritual sides of life and gain knowledge because the more we know of the individual things, the more we know of the whole. The relationship between our human nature, the world and the beyond is made understandable, as we perceive that life is a relative and intricate part of an undivided whole. We just have to be careful not to get engulfed by the particular things and lose sight of the total picture." Taken from the book “Evolution of Consciousness" by John Kuykendall The web site for this book is: http://www.geocities.com/trinitypublishing2004/

Care to quote the Bible in defining your "religion" rather than this new-age book?

:o :o

 

[evanman]

Problem with most people's conscience is that it has been "seared as with a hot iron".

 

[willow the wip]

soma what you state comes straght out of the new age movement.

 

[Blazin Bones]

I believe in the Christian’s consciousness of acceptance that there is one God and that He created all things is a conceptual truth that frees the mind to think of God all the time. This should relax the emotions so we can praise everything as good because it came from God. If we are not happy or need to go after others because they don't believe as we do then something is wrong. Enjoy the grace of God and have faith that the Almighty will take care of things. We don't have to be the Hitlers of the World.

I'll admit that I know little about the new age movement, but that which I know seems to fit you. Soma there is one God who indeed made all things. Everything is not good, hence we have Satan, his demons, and sin. Lastly, Jesus, commanded us to go and preach to all nations. I have one question for you that I would like your take on Soma. By who and how was the bible written?

 

[soma]

The Bible was not written in one specific year or in a single location. The Bible is a collection of writings, and the earliest ones were set down nearly 3500 years ago. So let's start at the beginning of this fascinating story.

The first five books of the Bible are attributed to Moses and are commonly called the Pentateuch (literally "five scrolls").

Moses lived between 1500 and 1300 BC, though he recounts events in the first eleven chapters of the Bible that occurred long before his time (such as the creation and the flood).

The New Testament was written during a much shorter period, i.e. during the last half of the first century AD.

It was the coming of the Messiah, Jesus Christ, which ignited the flame that produced the New Testament, as the new faith swept across the Near East and then westward to Greece and on to Rome.

Half of the New Testament books were contributed by one man, the Apostle Paul, in the epistles he sent to groups of new Christians and to his assistants Timothy and Titus.

The Bible closes with a majestic book of visions and dramatic views of the future. It was penned by the aged Apostle John around 95 AD and describes the new heaven and the new earth when God's kingdom will embrace the universe and all rebellion and death will be a thing of the past.

In looking at all these dates, the important thing to remember is that when the Bible was written is not as important as what was written. However, the when is important also as we sense how God's presence persisted through the centuries and gave us "in the fullness of time" the full-orbed revelation of salvation and hope through his son Jesus Christ.

He said preach to the world not condemn everyone in the world. You are not the judge and jury to send people to hell. Are you living in the old testament or new? Rebellion and death is a thing of the past. Wake up and live and share a happy life with the people around you. Don't be such a grouch.

 

[Blazin Bones]

Now, who inspired all of these authors? It was God. God is indeed a great and loving God. Even so, every thing is not unified and good. Remember the words od the apostle Paul.

RO 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose.

Paul says that all things work together for good for those who love God. Well what about those who don't love God, are all things good for them? no. Paul also said works together because they don't all start good, but rather God blesses those that love Him so that all things become good.

 

[soma]

Yes, I like that you are positive, loving and happy and no wonder you hang out with God's people so be happy, don't worry and enjoy your good company. Don't let other people bring you down to a lower level of consciousness. You are God loving.

 

[willow the wip]

Soma quote were I have indirectly said I have condem any one to hell.

soma becarfull dont go in the greate whore the bible talks about.

Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

 

[Blazin Bones]

Yes, I like that you are positive, loving and happy and no wonder you hang out with God's people so be happy, don't worry and enjoy your good company. Don't let other people bring you down to a lower level of consciousness. You are God loving.

Soma, why do you feel it's not necessary to witness?

 

[soma]

I witness you guys being God loving and full of grace. I don't care to witness what will will make me fall from grace. I have fallen and will fall, but it is so hard to get up again. I would rather stay in His grace.

 

[evanman]

I witness you guys being God loving and full of grace. I don't care to witness what will will make me fall from grace. I have fallen and will fall, but it is so hard to get up again. I would rather stay in His grace.

How do you know that you have fallen from grace?

Are you sure that you ever entered into that Grace in order that you could fall from it?

 

[soma]

Think positive. My God is a loving God and when someone makes an effort to live a good life, follow the Lord and help others, He showers them with grace. Surrender your negativity to God the Father, it will open your mind to the quiet influence of love and the calm certainty of peace. Permitting the mind to love permits it to become filled with the Lord's grace and for it to witness God enveloping everything and everyone. This consciousness of love that Jesus exemplified brings a sense of peace, joy and love.

 

[willow the wip]

then your God is not the God of the Bible

1. God would never alow compromise.

Yes we have unity and love with other Believers not people who worship another version of Jesus such as the mormons or the moslems we do not worship the same God.

Becarefull soma you may just be dissopointed.

You dont believe the bible or you would accept all of it the bad and Good.

(2 Tim.3:12.) "And indeed, all who desire to live godly lives in Christ Jesus will be persecuted."

I will not diss obey God.

Sometimes, we just have to tell people that they are wrong, and sometimes we have to tell people that they are right. The majority opinion is not always the correct opinion. But if we take the "middle of the road", “I wanna make everyone happy, and I don't want to hurt anyone's feelingsâ€Â, then we are being not only a wishy-washy Christian,
but we are being wishy-washy preachers as well.

And how can we preach the gospel if we are afraid to take a stand on the critical issues of the time.

After all, taking the example of Jesus and his ministry, we will find that he never shied away from a stance he was taking. He never ran from a confrontation or an argument. Instead, he stood firm and proclaimed the Good News of the kingdom of God, the message of repentance, of believe and confess and, as a result, he ended up being crucified for us.


(Romans 1:18.) For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all
ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness.

(Romans 1:21,22.) For even though they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks but they became futile in there
speculations and in there foolish heart was darkened.
Professing to be wise they became fools.

Call me negative I dont care I only care what God thinks about me.

what dose the Bible say about hell.

Rev 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Mat 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Eze 31:17 They also went down into hell with him unto [them that be] slain with the sword; and [they that were] his arm, [that] dwelt under his shadow in the midst of the heathen.

Gods peace is not the world view of peace

we will not have peace we will have peace when we die and go to heaven

 

[Blazin Bones]

I witness you guys being God loving and full of grace. I don't care to witness what will will make me fall from grace. I have fallen and will fall, but it is so hard to get up again. I would rather stay in His grace.

What are you trying to say, soma? Those of us who witness and give testimony to the saving blood of Jesus do not fall from grace when we do. Please clarify your post.