God understands my hatred for criminals right?

[Quantrill]

jasonc

Concerning post #(40).

What is this supposed to mean? And, saying (Rev. 20) is like saying 'the Bible'. Give an accurate chapter and verse.

Quantrill

 

[jasonc]

Yes, but then I have no problem hating. Hate is not 'evil'. As long as you hate the things God hates.

I have no problem with what she posted in the first line. Perhaps 'racist's' needs to be defined. But, as I said, I have no problem hating.

God hates. And He hates some people. (Rom. 9:13) This is why man has the ability to hate.

Quantrill

so its ok to hate ,seriously we are to hate ?

because Paul murdered ,I don't have to accept him,as an apostle?

after all God hates murder .

yet Paul says something .

avenge not ,you dint know how justice is in third world countries .


I will share what a missionary in India said .a women was gang raped ,the tribal elders punished the offenders with sit ups.they then found her and killed her .

that isn't justice ,surely harboring hate ,yet doing nothing about will resolve that .

since its not my job to hate,

bleess them that persecute you ..forgive your enemies ,so that you will be forgiven ...

the words of jesus not me

 

[Michellay]

the punishment for any unrepentant heart ,no,matter what tiny sins they did ,and the mass murderer is the same .no biblical support for levels in the lake of fire is found


revelation 20

They don’t get the same punishment. God punishes according to their deeds. If I didn’t turn to Christ, I would get God’s final judgment, but it wouldn’t be as bad as those types of people.

Romans 2:6
God "will repay each person according to what they have done."

 

[humble soul]

Psalm 94:16 Who will rise up for me against the wicked?

Yeah ok. But in this fragmented world we live in, demonizing others is all too easy. It just reinforces bunker mentality. Better to keep watch over our own sins, than highlight others. That one has a Bible verse too.

 

[jasonc]

jasonc

Concerning post #(40).

What is this supposed to mean? And, saying (Rev. 20) is like saying 'the Bible'. Give an accurate chapter and verse.

Quantrill

revalation 20 speaks about the punishment of those not in the book of life,cast into the fire.no,levels,no,murderers,pedophiles on,the lower levels or extra torture ,just all cast there

 

[Quantrill]

so its ok to hate ,seriously we are to hate ?

because Paul murdered ,I don't have to accept him,as an apostle?

after all God hates murder .

yet Paul says something .

avenge not ,you dint know how justice is in third world countries .


I will share what a missionary in India said .a women was gang raped ,the tribal elders punished the offenders with sit ups.they then found her and killed her .

that isn't justice ,surely harboring hate ,yet doing nothing about will resolve that .

since its not my job to hate,

bleess them that persecute you ..forgive your enemies ,so that you will be forgiven ...

the words of jesus not me

I just showed you that God hates. Man hates because he is created in the image of God. In other words, hate is not wrong as it is made out to be. Where is our hate directed is the question.

Chapter and verse where Jesus said what you said He did. I know where it is , but do you?

Quantrill

 

[jasonc]

They don’t get the same punishment. God punishes according to their deeds. If I didn’t turn to Christ, I would get God’s final judgment, but it wouldn’t be as bad as those types of people.

Romans 2:6
God "will repay each person according to what they have done."

in Jewry and it's in job ,their are levels of sheol.the fire for the lowest and worst ,

oddly not in ant mention in the account where its mentioned about the books opened up.

in Greek views of Hades,that word to torture is tartaroo,tarturus is the place where it was meted. koine greek being common,and Hades well known ,its not a place where its nice,heat ,brimstone,fire,and suffering ,no levels in the Greek view of Hades .

I spent hours looking up this for debates and what was the Jewish view on this

 

[Quantrill]

Yeah ok. But in this fragmented world we live in, demonizing others is all too easy. It just reinforces bunker mentality. Better to keep watch over our own sins, than highlight others. That one has a Bible verse too.

How is she 'demonizing' others? Just because she hates those that did this terrible crime?

Quantrill

 

[humble soul]

How is she 'demonizing' others? Just because she hates those that did this terrible crime?

Quantrill

If you can't see that sir, I can't help you.

 

[Michellay]

in Jewry and it's in job ,their are levels of sheol.the fire for the lowest and worst ,

oddly not in ant mention in the account where its mentioned about the books opened up.

in Greek views of Hades,that word to torture is tartaroo,tarturus is the place where it was meted. koine greek being common,and Hades well known ,its not a place where its nice,heat ,brimstone,fire,and suffering ,no levels in the Greek view of Hades .

I spent hours looking up this for debates and what was the Jewish view on this

Hmmmm, speaking of Revelation 20
Revelation 20:12
[12] And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done.

 

[Quantrill]

revalation 20 speaks about the punishment of those not in the book of life,cast into the fire.no,levels,no,murderers,pedophiles on,the lower levels or extra torture ,just all cast there

Sounds good...chapter and VERSE.

Quantrill

 

[Quantrill]

If you can't see that sir, I can't help you.

OK.

Quantrill

 

[jasonc]

I just showed you that God hates. Man hates because he is created in the image of God. In other words, hate is not wrong as it is made out to be. Where is our hate directed is the question.

Chapter and verse where Jesus said what you said He did. I know where it is , but do you?

Quantrill

Matthew 6,the lords prayer

forgive us as we forgive others .

the parable of the servant who owed and begged forgiveness and didn't forgive his fellow serveant.
Matthew 18

 

[Michellay]

Yeah ok. But in this fragmented world we live in, demonizing others is all too easy. It just reinforces bunker mentality. Better to keep watch over our own sins, than highlight others. That one has a Bible verse too.

God tells us to judge righteously and yes these evil people deserve to be demonized and get horrible lives in prison. God loves me and I will be in the book of life.

 

[jasonc]

Sounds good...chapter and VERSE.

Quantrill

I,posted

revelation 20:13 to 15

 

[Michellay]

Matthew 6,the lords prayer

forgive us as we forgive others .

the parable of the servant who owed and begged forgiveness and didn't forgive his fellow serveant.
Matthew 18

Forgive to not wish them eternal punishment, but they do deserve to reap the consequences of what they have sown.
Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap

 

[Quantrill]

Matthew 6,the lords prayer

forgive us as we forgive others .

the parable of the servant who owed and begged forgiveness and didn't forgive his fellow serveant.
Matthew 18

(Matt. 5-7) involves the Kingdom to come. Not the Church. It is the laws of the Kingdom when Christ is literally ruling on earth. The Church or Christians are not bound by (Matt. 5-7).

(Matt. 18...what?) Do you own a Bible? Chapter and verse.

Quantrill

 

[Quantrill]

I,posted

revelation 20:13 to 15

You finally give the verses. And what is that supposed to prove?

Quantrill

 

[jasonc]

Hmmmm, speaking of Revelation 20
Revelation 20:12
[12] And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done.

no levels.

I can go into this .
what is gan Eden?
what is paradise?
what is Hades,sheol?

Jesus mentions all,,one at the cross ,to the thief,paradise and gan Eden .
to him whom who overcomerh will I give the right to dwell with me in the garden

on Hades,thou debatable like 16,sheol is more in,job ,and also Peter mentions it .

all emptied at the judgement then cast into the lake of fire

 

[Michellay]

no levels.

I can go into this .
what is gan Eden?
what is paradise?
what is Hades,sheol?

Jesus mentions all,,one at the cross ,to the thief,paradise and gan Eden .
to him whom who overcomerh will I give the right to dwell with me in the garden

on Hades,thou debatable like 16,sheol is more in,job ,and also Peter mentions it .

all emptied at the judgement then cast into the lake of fire

And punished ACCORDING to their deeds