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the timing of that is when? and also doesnt kinda exclude the trib saints as they missed the boat when he comes back to judge all man finally.

yes they meet him in their sinful bodily state and arent perfected.

all means all. your problematic view not mine.
 
' then we which are alive shall be caught up together... and so shall we ever be with the Lord' Just going by what I read in my Bible.

Jason ya can't come back cause the word says

then we which are alive shall be caught up together... and so shall we ever be with the Lord'

So we got to stay caught up and so shall we ever be...
 
ok. so if the lord goes to the earth and take us with him. where are we ? with the lord.


you do know that when jesus spoke these beatitudes he meant we get the earth

and reconcile this
jude
14And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
15To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him



and elsewhere.
2 thessalonians
1Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ:

2Grace unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
3We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is meet, because that your faith groweth exceedingly, and the charity of every one of you all toward each other aboundeth;
4So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure:
5Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:
6Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;
7And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
10When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.
11Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power: 12That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.


and one thessalonians

13To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints

hmm sounds like their will be saints coming back with the lord to judge man and angels.