Healing and visions?

[Blain]

So I have somethings I need to talk about. See there is a very dear friend of mine on another forum, she has severe pain 24/7 because of the discs in her back. I forgot what disease it was called but basically they are out of place and hurt her very badly, she has had this for a few years and the doctors say in a year or so she may have to be in a wheel chair. And yet through all this every day she comes online even though she is in pain with a happy attitude and is so loving towards others.

I simply couldn't bear to see her in pain any longer so I prayed for God to heal her. Now this is where it gets complex because many times I have asked for healing for myself most of the time but occasionally for others but this time I wanted her healed so badly that I was in tears and told God I myself would bear the pain and sickness for her if he would only heal her. But my prayers were not answered, soon after I made a thread to encourage people who are in pain sadness and in need of healing.

Sometimes I get these images and feelings put into my head, some people tell me they are visions others say they are holy spirit inspired thoughts Idk what they are but as I wrote it I saw what looked like the Lord moving and popping bones and body parts back into place and healing them with a soothing feeling that kind of tingles. I saw him holding the heart of the broken souls who are in misery sadness and anguish and held them with such care and love then close his hands around the heart and begin to mold it while healing it with the same soothing tingling feeling. I saw him touching the body of someone and healing it curing it of all sickness and pain.

This isnt the first time I have seen something like this regarding healing, there were plenty of times I saw me reaching out my hand and putting it on the computer screen to heal the afflicted and as I did I saw what looked like the Lords hand extending into the web all the way to the person and healing them. I desperately want to heal people but i dont have the power or ability, I look inside myself and I feel an emptiness where the gift of healing is. I have asked God about this so many times but he doesnt answer

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

All things are in God's time.
Every gift that you want in your heart will be given to you in God's time.
Just keep believing.
You wanted this women healed but you didn't see it.
What you saw was the power of the Holy Spirit in this woman's life regardless of the pain.
How strong a testimony is that?
I want to be healed.
You want to be healed.
Everyone wants to be healed.
All in God's time.
Sometimes our healing comes when God takes us home to him.
In the meantime, what do we do with our lives.
We go through each day looking towards God, talking to him, praying to him, rejoicing in him.
Nothing can stop us, we belong to him and he holds us up.

Keep praying for the greater gifts we are told, and wait patiently for what we believe we have already received.

 

[Gary]

I desperately want to heal people but i dont have the power or ability,

The power comes from God. The ability comes from the heart. When we take our sight off of God, our heart follows.

Notice what happens to Peter the moment he took his eyes off of Jesus.

Matthew 14
28 And Peter answered him and said, Lord, if it be thou, bid me come unto thee on the water.
29 And he said, Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water, to go to Jesus.
30 But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me.
31 And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?



And just so we're clear, I'm not insinuating you have no faith. I'm in the same boat as you. Nothing would give me more pleasure than to empty every cancer ward in the world. But I'm lacking something. It's probably the same thing that caused Peter to start sinking. I hate saying that about myself but it's probably true.

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[Christ_empowered]

God heals. Sometimes, he totally restores people. Other times, we're healed and made new on the other side. There's lots of things in between those than can happen. Keep praying and know that you can't heal--that's not your place, its God's--but prayer does change things.

 

[KevinK]

One big word of caution, though. Satan can also heal. He will do so to garner trust in a person, often dramatic and inviolable when a person's been suffering for a long time or has an "incurable" disease.

I told God flat out to help me reject any healing that comes from the Evil One. I would rather suffer throughout my lifetime (and the pain is not inconsiderable) than accept a ticket to Hell where the pain will be a thousand times worse and last forever.

 

[Kathi]

So I have somethings I need to talk about. See there is a very dear friend of mine on another forum, she has severe pain 24/7 because of the discs in her back. I forgot what disease it was called but basically they are out of place and hurt her very badly, she has had this for a few years and the doctors say in a year or so she may have to be in a wheel chair. And yet through all this every day she comes online even though she is in pain with a happy attitude and is so loving towards others.

I simply couldn't bear to see her in pain any longer so I prayed for God to heal her. Now this is where it gets complex because many times I have asked for healing for myself most of the time but occasionally for others but this time I wanted her healed so badly that I was in tears and told God I myself would bear the pain and sickness for her if he would only heal her. But my prayers were not answered, soon after I made a thread to encourage people who are in pain sadness and in need of healing.

Sometimes I get these images and feelings put into my head, some people tell me they are visions others say they are holy spirit inspired thoughts Idk what they are but as I wrote it I saw what looked like the Lord moving and popping bones and body parts back into place and healing them with a soothing feeling that kind of tingles. I saw him holding the heart of the broken souls who are in misery sadness and anguish and held them with such care and love then close his hands around the heart and begin to mold it while healing it with the same soothing tingling feeling. I saw him touching the body of someone and healing it curing it of all sickness and pain.

This isnt the first time I have seen something like this regarding healing, there were plenty of times I saw me reaching out my hand and putting it on the computer screen to heal the afflicted and as I did I saw what looked like the Lords hand extending into the web all the way to the person and healing them. I desperately want to heal people but i dont have the power or ability, I look inside myself and I feel an emptiness where the gift of healing is. I have asked God about this so many times but he doesnt answer

Holy Spirit inspired thoughts I like the sound of.Sometimes we pray for healing and it doesn't come.Sometimes God says "no".I always ask that "God's Will Be Done".I had a time when my son was very,very sick.I was in bed and had been asleep.I was awoken by this very tiny voice.It said "It will be ok".I know I heard the voice.That is the only time that has happened to me.

 

[Gary]

One big word of caution, though. Satan can also heal.

Where is this found in the scriptures?
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[Kathi]

One big word of caution, though. Satan can also heal. He will do so to garner trust in a person, often dramatic and inviolable when a person's been suffering for a long time or has an "incurable" disease.

I told God flat out to help me reject any healing that comes from the Evil One. I would rather suffer throughout my lifetime (and the pain is not inconsiderable) than accept a ticket to Hell where the pain will be a thousand times worse and last forever.

Satan can not heal.He doesn't have the power for that.Only God can heal.Please show me Scripture that says that Satan can heal.

 

[Willie T]

THIS is a little talk from a man who went through a lot of what you may be feeling. He's worth a listen.

 

[Willie T]

One big word of caution, though. Satan can also heal. He will do so to garner trust in a person, often dramatic and inviolable when a person's been suffering for a long time or has an "incurable" disease.

I told God flat out to help me reject any healing that comes from the Evil One. I would rather suffer throughout my lifetime (and the pain is not inconsiderable) than accept a ticket to Hell where the pain will be a thousand times worse and last forever.

This is something I ran across that might interest us.

In Matthew 7:21-23 Jesus says to some who claim to have prophesied in his name and done many miracles and expelled demons in his name, that he doesn’t know them. How did they do those things, if indeed they did (and Jesus does not contradict that part of their testimony), if they were not His? Deuteronomy 13:1-5 mentions the case of a prophet who foretells by dreams and announces miraculous signs that actually take place, but prophesies of false gods. How can a false prophet do that? In Revelation 13 we’re introduced to the Beast and the False Prophet, servants of Satan who seek to rule and deceive the world by creating an image of the Beast that the False Prophet is able to give breath to so that it speaks and people worship it. Verse 14 says he was “given power” to do this, but it does not say who gave him the power. The most likely answer is that this power was given him by Satan. Satan was allowed to do powerful (“miraculous”) things to harm Job and his children. We read of demons that make people appear to be sick or handicapped (Luke 9:37-42; 13:10-13). It is possible that if Satan wanted to deceive people he might release a demon-influenced person from the demon-caused debilitation and it would look like a healing. However, we are never given an indication that Satan can actually heal a real disease.

I think you will find that in any of this, if a man gets the glory, then we should possibly be wary. If, however, the glory is given all to God, that is NOT the Devil's doing.

 

[Gary]

One big word of caution, though. Satan can also heal. He will do so to garner trust in a person, often dramatic and inviolable when a person's been suffering for a long time or has an "incurable" disease.

I told God flat out to help me reject any healing that comes from the Evil One. I would rather suffer throughout my lifetime (and the pain is not inconsiderable) than accept a ticket to Hell where the pain will be a thousand times worse and last forever.

Where is this found in the scriptures?
.

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[gr8grace3]

So I have somethings I need to talk about. See there is a very dear friend of mine on another forum, she has severe pain 24/7 because of the discs in her back. I forgot what disease it was called but basically they are out of place and hurt her very badly, she has had this for a few years and the doctors say in a year or so she may have to be in a wheel chair. And yet through all this every day she comes online even though she is in pain with a happy attitude and is so loving towards others.

I simply couldn't bear to see her in pain any longer so I prayed for God to heal her. Now this is where it gets complex because many times I have asked for healing for myself most of the time but occasionally for others but this time I wanted her healed so badly that I was in tears and told God I myself would bear the pain and sickness for her if he would only heal her. But my prayers were not answered, soon after I made a thread to encourage people who are in pain sadness and in need of healing.

Sometimes I get these images and feelings put into my head, some people tell me they are visions others say they are holy spirit inspired thoughts Idk what they are but as I wrote it I saw what looked like the Lord moving and popping bones and body parts back into place and healing them with a soothing feeling that kind of tingles. I saw him holding the heart of the broken souls who are in misery sadness and anguish and held them with such care and love then close his hands around the heart and begin to mold it while healing it with the same soothing tingling feeling. I saw him touching the body of someone and healing it curing it of all sickness and pain.

This isnt the first time I have seen something like this regarding healing, there were plenty of times I saw me reaching out my hand and putting it on the computer screen to heal the afflicted and as I did I saw what looked like the Lords hand extending into the web all the way to the person and healing them. I desperately want to heal people but i dont have the power or ability, I look inside myself and I feel an emptiness where the gift of healing is. I have asked God about this so many times but he doesnt answer

I believe the gift of healing stopped around 96 AD. Healing was done to establish the authority of the teacher or message. Once the authority and message was established,the gift waned. Paul, had a few friends at the end of his ministry that he left sick because his message and authority had been established. The Bible is our final authority and message and it was completed around 96 AD.

God does heal, but no man has the gift of healing in today's dispensation.

Suffering for blessing is a gift from God. And He uses suffering to grow us,to teach us or to show us something. So we even have to be careful for praying for people who suffer. They may be suffering for blessing.

Philippians 1:29 (NASB95)
29 For to you it has been granted for Christ’s sake, not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake,

It is Gods will that some of us suffer 1 Peter 3:17 NASB~~For it is better, if God should will it so, that you suffer for doing what is right rather than for doing what is wrong.

 

[Kathi]

I believe the gift of healing stopped around 96 AD. Healing was done to establish the authority of the teacher or message. Once the authority and message was established,the gift waned. Paul, had a few friends at the end of his ministry that he left sick because his message and authority had been established. The Bible is our final authority and message and it was completed around 96 AD.

God does heal, but no man has the gift of healing in today's dispensation.

Suffering for blessing is a gift from God. And He uses suffering to grow us,to teach us or to show us something. So we even have to be careful for praying for people who suffer. They may be suffering for blessing.

Philippians 1:29 (NASB95)
29 For to you it has been granted for Christ’s sake, not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake,

It is Gods will that some of us suffer 1 Peter 3:17 NASB~~For it is better, if God should will it so, that you suffer for doing what is right rather than for doing what is wrong.

I think you are right.I think God has a reason for each and everything that happens in our lives.If our prayers are not being answered for healing God is using it.For what? I don't know.

 

[Willie T]

Well Grace3 and Kathi, I do have to say that those two outlooks, though common, are about as far from the truth of God for mankind as anything I have heard.

 

[Gary]

I believe the gift of healing stopped around 96 AD.

There's nothing in scripture to support this.
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[Kathi]

Jesus and His disciples performed healings Matthew4:24;Matthew 15:30.
The power is not in the person the power is only in God.God's healing through the gift of healing belonged to the apostles of the first century Church Acts 2:22
;Acts 14:3.
Although God does still heal today.

 

[gr8grace3]

There's nothing in scripture to support this.
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Acts 19:11–12 (NASB95)
11 God was performing extraordinary miracles by the hands of Paul,

12 so that handkerchiefs or aprons were even carried from his body to the sick, and the diseases left them and the evil spirits went out.

Philippians 2:27 (NASB95)
27 For indeed he was sick to the point of death, but God had mercy on him, and not on him only but also on me, so that I would not have sorrow upon sorrow.

2 Timothy 4:20 (NASB95)
20 Erastus remained at Corinth, but Trophimus I left sick at Miletus.

Healing was used to present the messiah and to establish the message. In 96 AD the canon was complete and the message was established. We need not go outside of the bible for any additional messages.

 

[Willie T]

There are none so blind as they who will not see....... especially, when it is right in front of them.

 

[Kathi]

Galatians 1:9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.

 

[gr8grace3]

Well Grace3 and Kathi, I do have to say that those two outlooks, though common, are about as far from the truth of God for mankind as anything I have heard.

I would say that it is very, very uncommon in this day and age to believe that man does not have the gift of healing today. Most Christians I have met believe that that gift is still around.

Bible doctrine teaches that the gift of healing ceased. But my emotion would love to have it around. And my emotion could easily fall for a self described healer. Doctrine will not let me be deceived with them though.