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What is Hell​

I. Is it a literal place? Matthew 25:46

a. Outer darkness Matthew 25:30
b. Lake of fire Revelation 20:14
c. Bottomless pit Revelation 9:1

II. Are there different degrees of Hell?

a. Rewards lost
b. Different holdings cells
c. Different dimensions


Also..

What is your opinion of this hot (no pun intended) topic? Many Church's today do not teach on this subject, many Church's today feel that if they teach on Hell that basically they are trying to scare someone into faith. What are your thoughts?
 
LJKP said:
What is Hell​


I. Is it a literal place? Matthew 25:46

a. Outer darkness Matthew 25:30
b. Lake of fire Revelation 20:14
c. Bottomless pit Revelation 9:1

II. Are there different degrees of Hell?

a. Rewards lost
b. Different holdings cells
c. Different dimensions


Also..

What is your opinion of this hot (no pun intended) topic? Many Church's today do not teach on this subject, many Church's today feel that if they teach on Hell that basically they are trying to scare someone into faith. What are your thoughts?
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When you say Hell, do you mean Hades or Gehenna?
 
With respect to the different degrees of hell ....

I'd have to say (respectfully) that it is not relevant. Hell means eternal separation from God and from anything or anyone good. The torment is inconceivable / unimaginable, regardless of where in Hell you are placed. Therefore in my mind there is no possible comparison.
 
Moving Forward said:
With respect to the different degrees of hell ....

I'd have to say (respectfully) that it is not relevant. Hell means eternal separation from God and from anything or anyone good. The torment is inconceivable / unimaginable, regardless of where in Hell you are placed. Therefore in my mind there is no possible comparison.
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Moving Forward -

Thank you for the reply and I couldn't agree more, but if grandma passed away without knowing Christ and she's in Hell with Hitler, will her punishment be the same? Many say no, but I'm trying to find Scripture about that. I heard someone say that Jesus said something about the backs being whipped differently or something? I'm not sure though, so I came with the question because not only is it a interesting topic but knowledge is power and my growth in the Lord and the Word in all areas in crucial .. :wave
 
LJKP said:
The points that were listed in the original post :thumbsup

Could this place of Hell be the the same as Hades or Gehenna?

Why or why not?
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Hi LJKP,

In the Eglish Bibles many times both Hades and Gehenna are translated Hell. This causes a lot of confusion. Were you referring to one or the other of these two places?
 
LJKP said:
Moving Forward -

Thank you for the reply and I couldn't agree more, but if grandma passed away without knowing Christ and she's in Hell with Hitler, will her punishment be the same? Many say no, but I'm trying to find Scripture about that. I heard someone say that Jesus said something about the backs being whipped differently or something? I'm not sure though, so I came with the question because not only is it a interesting topic but knowledge is power and my growth in the Lord and the Word in all areas in crucial .. :wave
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Thanks for the clarification, LJKP. I think I'll let someone else address that question. Best to you.
 
I maybe wrong but here goes. Revelation 20 talks of 2 places of hell. The first in verse 10, where the devil, the beast and the false prophet will be, lake of fire and brimestone. The second in verse 15, where all whose name is not found in the lambs book of life. Matthew 25;30 could also be another place but not sure. But the true meaning of hell is completely separated from God.
 
thightower said:
I maybe wrong but here goes. Revelation 20 talks of 2 places of hell. The first in verse 10, where the devil, the beast and the false prophet will be, lake of fire and brimestone. The second in verse 15, where all whose name is not found in the lambs book of life. Matthew 25;30 could also be another place but not sure. But the true meaning of hell is completely separated from God.
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Actually, there is Hades, Gehenna, and Tartarus all of which are translated Hell. This has caused much confusion among English speaking Christians. Hades is the grave, Gehenna is the Lake of Fire, and Tartarus, is a place reserved for the Devil and his angels.
 
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Butch5 said:
Hi LJKP,

In the Eglish Bibles many times both Hades and Gehenna are translated Hell. This causes a lot of confusion. Were you referring to one or the other of these two places?
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Butch5 -

I'm not sure I guess.. :sorry

Hell as in Hell :help
 
thightower said:
I maybe wrong but here goes. Revelation 20 talks of 2 places of hell. The first in verse 10, where the devil, the beast and the false prophet will be, lake of fire and brimestone. The second in verse 15, where all whose name is not found in the lambs book of life. Matthew 25;30 could also be another place but not sure. But the true meaning of hell is completely separated from God.
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thightower -

This is my thoughts too. Yet it's very veg in this area. But if in Heaven there are different rewards for doing good for the Kingdom 1 Peter 1:7, 1 Corinthians 3:13 then I just thought there would be a different Hell for people to experience. I asked this question at a Bible study once and I was given the answer of the points I mentioned in the original post.

Outer darkness was like the least of the punishment (left alone to suffer for all the times you had to accept Christ and refused).

Bottomless pit - for those that may have done more in the body and the punishment is a little worse

Lake of fire - left for those who commitment the worse crimes (Genocide (Nero, Hitler etc))

But when I asked for Scripture I was given Scripture but it didn't really say that -

Know what I mean?

So I brought it here just to see if someone could maybe expand on this, it's really not that important but makes an interesting study I suppose!

LJ
 
Like I mentioned earlier, My knowledege of this is limited. I do faintly remeber a sermon or somthing on the subject, but that was years ago. Rev 20;15 must be Gehenna reseved for those who reject Jesus. Rev 20;10 must be Tartarus, reserved fo the devil and his angels. And Matt 25;30 must be Hades, the outer darkness. Am I understanding it right Butch.
 
I believe that gehenna is hell as is commonly understood by the term, hence Jesus' numerous warnings regarding gehenna, and is likely the lake of fire. It is highly unfortunate that some translations, beginning with the KJV, translate three different words as "hell".

Yes, there are degrees of punishment just as there are degrees of reward for believers. In so believing I think there is significant misunderstanding as to what happens in hell and just what torment is.
 
LJKP said:
What is Hell​

I. Is it a literal place? Matthew 25:46

a. Outer darkness Matthew 25:30
b. Lake of fire Revelation 20:14
c. Bottomless pit Revelation 9:1

II. Are there different degrees of Hell?

a. Rewards lost
b. Different holdings cells
c. Different dimensions


Also..

What is your opinion of this hot (no pun intended) topic? Many Church's today do not teach on this subject, many Church's today feel that if they teach on Hell that basically they are trying to scare someone into faith. What are your thoughts?
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Not many churches speak of "hell" these days. They will drive away their congregation...however the topic of hell should be preached. It is a fact and we have a choice. Hell is eternal and real...It is an eternal separation from God. Forever....
 
The wages of sin is death,period...........Now since all will die of the flesh which is the first death,the 2nd death can only be of the soul........
 
LJKP said:
What is Hell​



I. Is it a literal place? Matthew 25:46


II. Are there different degrees of Hell?
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Most are going to disagree with me I'm sure but I believe scripture to say Hell is a literal place of eternal punishment. Perhaps one of the verses you are looking for in your point II is
Luke 12:47-48--"And that servant who knew his master's will, and did not prepare himself or do according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. but he who did not know, yet committed things deserving of stripes, shall be beaten with few." NKJV
 
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