Hello

[Claudya]

wus language

1) French.

J'aim beaucoup le francais. Peut-être je suis une "wus" mais je suis une femme ainsi c'est okay.

 

[jasoncran]

kinda hard to take a angry Frenchman seriously. I told that to a Canadian French speaker and he thought it was hilarious.

 

[jasoncran]

I have family in france. they are jews and speak French.

lol alexander dumas! oh man.lol the story on that.

 

[jasoncran]

im not jealous of german. practicality my dear. just gotta to pay to learn another language and if I am I best be needing it.

 

[Claudya]

im not jealous of german. practicality my dear. just gotta to pay to learn another language and if I am I best be needing it.

You gotta invest the precious and limited time of your life. But as for money payment... I daresay nowadays it's possible to study a language for free thanks to the internet. I'm thinking of studying Japanese.
German isn't easy though. Our grammar is a [removed by staff].

kinda hard to take a angry Frenchman seriously. I told that to a Canadian French speaker and he thought it was hilarious.

The French in France are (stereotypically speaking) permanently on strike and planning revolutions. There must be some anger in their hearts. They just outsourced it to their workers' unions.

And I love when French Canadians mix English and French. That's really hilarious.

 

[jasoncran]

If I spent that time. I would have to have a reason. I see none. only Spanish. not to many germans in florida where I live.

you haven't heard me then slaughter Spanish. I do that as a past time.

 

[Claudya]

The reason is to excersise your mind. A new language is like a mental toy to play with. :yes
I love to confuse God by praying in a mix of English and German.

Spanish looks easy. Is it easy?

 

[Sparkey]

Yes, Mensch. Welcome to the forum. You've met at least three of us who tend to ramble. Hope you don't mind too much.

Cordially,
Sparrow

 

[Mensch]

Lustig... ein Gespräch über Deutsch und Grammatik. xD

I find Spanish pretty complicated... I suppose I am just too lazy to learn the grammar.
Sparrowhawke, don't worry. I don't mind at all.

 

[Doulos Iesou]

Hello everyone!

I have been for a few years in a weird and self contradictory situation. I am an atheist and no, I have not come here for trolling. I have come to ask you for help. I was brought up Christian, but my parents and I were never that religious. I decided that the Bible was not true and moved on to other beliefs. I kind of went through every new age stuff there is out there.

After a few years I gave up on everything, every belief I had and decided to live only on what I knew for sure. I didn't know God for sure either, so I've been calling myself an atheist ever since. I have read some passages in the bible. Mostly the bad ones. I just can't believe in anything that is in there. Children being killed for disobeying and what not and the whole concept of Jesus paying for our sins instead of God forgiving us without having to torture someone pure and innocent. I just can't accept any of that.

However, after I gave up on all the things I used to believe in, this feeling hit me. I could feel it in my heart, even now while writing this. A few months later, I ran randomly into someone on youtube who kind of made me a believer again. I still couldn't understand why the Bible was the way that it is, but I prayed and asked for forgiveness. That feeling would get stronger and stronger, but after a month or so I gave up again on my belief. I would not even be here if I didn't have that feeling... It gets overwhelming. I feel like some pieces are missing. I feel the need to surrender to God. However, faith doesn't work for me and my mind won't let me have faith in anything. I also doubt prayer works. I don't see any possible way God can intervene and change things only for our sake. It can change you, but it can't change the environment we live in.

I can't even say the words "Praise the Lord" or "God" out loud, but when I listen to songs about Jesus and God I feel pretty happy and feel the need to pray. Once I have done that, I feel weird and self contradictory. I've been living like this for over a year now and I just don't know what to do. I go out and criticize anything related to God, but when this feeling hits me, I go back to Him.

I wanted to create my own God, to imagine mine, so that it wouldn't have anything to do with the Bible or any other religion. I just can't. My heart / feeling is asking for Jesus.

Sorry for the very long post, but I had to get it all out of my head or better said my heart. Any ideas how to either remove that feeling - which I have been trying for so long - or to turn a "doubting machine" like me into a believer, which I now find 100% impossible? :gah

Hi Mensch,

My name is in Greek and it means Servant of Jesus... (I know sounds awfully religious, but it's an allusion to Romans 1:1... I love the Epistle to the Romans) You can call me "D" if you want! I used to be a staunch atheist who was very critical of Christianity before and if you need someone to be straight with you and honest and of course.. available I would love to hear some of your thoughts, concerns and questions.

I hope you enjoy your time here, and I recommend that you attempt to get out to a local congregation and ask to meet with a Pastor. Often people in general who frequent forums tend to be a little more contentious (speaking of myself here as well...) and you'll find discussions with people in person who have a deep knowledge of Scripture and the love of God.

Blessings to you,
D

 

[Claudya]

Lustig... ein Gespräch über Deutsch und Grammatik. xD

Yeah that was one of the worst derailments of a new user's introduction thread I've ever seen here. But it was an intelligent derailment.

I find Spanish pretty complicated... I suppose I am just too lazy to learn the grammar.

It seems closely related to Latin and French.

 

[jasoncran]

No, No El Espanol es facil. La grammatica es similar a engles.

 

[Mensch]

Hi Mensch,

My name is in Greek and it means Servant of Jesus... (I know sounds awfully religious, but it's an allusion to Romans 1:1... I love the Epistle to the Romans) You can call me "D" if you want! I used to be a staunch atheist who was very critical of Christianity before and if you need someone to be straight with you and honest and of course.. available I would love to hear some of your thoughts, concerns and questions.

I hope you enjoy your time here, and I recommend that you attempt to get out to a local congregation and ask to meet with a Pastor. Often people in general who frequent forums tend to be a little more contentious (speaking of myself here as well...) and you'll find discussions with people in person who have a deep knowledge of Scripture and the love of God.

Blessings to you,
D

Wow... really? I would actually like to speak to you. I am really curious about what changed your mind. :D

Yeah that was one of the worst derailments of a new user's introduction thread I've ever seen here. But it was an intelligent derailment.

Indeed. :D

No El Espanol es facil. La grammatica es similar a engles.

Maybe I will give it a try one day, if it is that similar and easy.

 

[Claudya]

No, No El Espanol es facil. La grammatica es similar a engles.

Perfectly understood that. Most words in that sentence are similar a engles, too.

 

[Mensch]

Perfectly understood that. Most words in that sentence are similar a engles, too.

The real question now is... welcher Sprache ähnelt Deutsch? Keiner normalen Sprache, that's for sure. :D

 

[Claudya]

The real question now is... welcher Sprache ähnelt Deutsch? Keiner normalen Sprache, that's for sure. :D

Holländisch zählt nicht. Schon gar nicht als "normal". :D

 

[Maedchen]

Hello everyone!

I have been for a few years in a weird and self contradictory situation. I am an atheist and no, I have not come here for trolling. I have come to ask you for help. I was brought up Christian, but my parents and I were never that religious. I decided that the Bible was not true and moved on to other beliefs. I kind of went through every new age stuff there is out there.

After a few years I gave up on everything, every belief I had and decided to live only on what I knew for sure. I didn't know God for sure either, so I've been calling myself an atheist ever since. I have read some passages in the bible. Mostly the bad ones. I just can't believe in anything that is in there. Children being killed for disobeying and what not and the whole concept of Jesus paying for our sins instead of God forgiving us without having to torture someone pure and innocent. I just can't accept any of that.

However, after I gave up on all the things I used to believe in, this feeling hit me. I could feel it in my heart, even now while writing this. A few months later, I ran randomly into someone on youtube who kind of made me a believer again. I still couldn't understand why the Bible was the way that it is, but I prayed and asked for forgiveness. That feeling would get stronger and stronger, but after a month or so I gave up again on my belief. I would not even be here if I didn't have that feeling... It gets overwhelming. I feel like some pieces are missing. I feel the need to surrender to God. However, faith doesn't work for me and my mind won't let me have faith in anything. I also doubt prayer works. I don't see any possible way God can intervene and change things only for our sake. It can change you, but it can't change the environment we live in.

I can't even say the words "Praise the Lord" or "God" out loud, but when I listen to songs about Jesus and God I feel pretty happy and feel the need to pray. Once I have done that, I feel weird and self contradictory. I've been living like this for over a year now and I just don't know what to do. I go out and criticize anything related to God, but when this feeling hits me, I go back to Him.

I wanted to create my own God, to imagine mine, so that it wouldn't have anything to do with the Bible or any other religion. I just can't. My heart / feeling is asking for Jesus.

Sorry for the very long post, but I had to get it all out of my head or better said my heart. Any ideas how to either remove that feeling - which I have been trying for so long - or to turn a "doubting machine" like me into a believer, which I now find 100% impossible? :gah

Lieber Mensch,

ich bin durch Deinen Namen auf diesen Thread aufmerksam geworden. Zuerst dachte ich an Herbert Groenemeyers gleichnamiges Album. Hat er nicht dort auch ein Lied für seine verstorbene Frau gesungen? Wunderschönes Lied.

Nun hat mich Deine Glaubensgechichte interessiert. (Darf ich "Du" sagen?)
"To turn a doubting machine into a believer" - das kann nur der Geist Gottes. Wie oben schon gesagt wurde, scheint Er Dich an sich zu ziehen.
Jesus said, "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him." (John6:44)

Weißt Du, Mensch, dass der Teufel versucht, uns von Jesus fernzuhalten? Verstehst Du, dass er mit jedem schönen Erlebnis, das Du mit Gott hast, seine Anstrengungen verstärkt, um etwas Negatives daraus zu machen?
So geht es mir. Ich glaube, ich weiß, wie Du Dich fühlst.

Don't give up. Jesus loves you. He really wants to be your friend. Let Him guide you.

Love, Rose

 

[Mensch]

Hello everyone!

I have been for a few years in a weird and self contradictory situation. I am an atheist and no, I have not come here for trolling. I have come to ask you for help. I was brought up Christian, but my parents and I were never that religious. I decided that the Bible was not true and moved on to other beliefs. I kind of went through every new age stuff there is out there.

After a few years I gave up on everything, every belief I had and decided to live only on what I knew for sure. I didn't know God for sure either, so I've been calling myself an atheist ever since. I have read some passages in the bible. Mostly the bad ones. I just can't believe in anything that is in there. Children being killed for disobeying and what not and the whole concept of Jesus paying for our sins instead of God forgiving us without having to torture someone pure and innocent. I just can't accept any of that.

However, after I gave up on all the things I used to believe in, this feeling hit me. I could feel it in my heart, even now while writing this. A few months later, I ran randomly into someone on youtube who kind of made me a believer again. I still couldn't understand why the Bible was the way that it is, but I prayed and asked for forgiveness. That feeling would get stronger and stronger, but after a month or so I gave up again on my belief. I would not even be here if I didn't have that feeling... It gets overwhelming. I feel like some pieces are missing. I feel the need to surrender to God. However, faith doesn't work for me and my mind won't let me have faith in anything. I also doubt prayer works. I don't see any possible way God can intervene and change things only for our sake. It can change you, but it can't change the environment we live in.

I can't even say the words "Praise the Lord" or "God" out loud, but when I listen to songs about Jesus and God I feel pretty happy and feel the need to pray. Once I have done that, I feel weird and self contradictory. I've been living like this for over a year now and I just don't know what to do. I go out and criticize anything related to God, but when this feeling hits me, I go back to Him.

I wanted to create my own God, to imagine mine, so that it wouldn't have anything to do with the Bible or any other religion. I just can't. My heart / feeling is asking for Jesus.

Sorry for the very long post, but I had to get it all out of my head or better said my heart. Any ideas how to either remove that feeling - which I have been trying for so long - or to turn a "doubting machine" like me into a believer, which I now find 100% impossible? :gah

Lieber Mensch,

ich bin durch Deinen Namen auf diesen Thread aufmerksam geworden. Zuerst dachte ich an Herbert Groenemeyers gleichnamiges Album. Hat er nicht dort auch ein Lied für seine verstorbene Frau gesungen? Wunderschönes Lied.

Nun hat mich Deine Glaubensgechichte interessiert. (Darf ich "Du" sagen?)
"To turn a doubting machine into a believer" - das kann nur der Geist Gottes. Wie oben schon gesagt wurde, scheint Er Dich an sich zu ziehen.
Jesus said, "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him." (John6:44)

Weißt Du, Mensch, dass der Teufel versucht, uns von Jesus fernzuhalten? Verstehst Du, dass er mit jedem schönen Erlebnis, das Du mit Gott hast, seine Anstrengungen verstärkt, um etwas Negatives daraus zu machen?
So geht es mir. Ich glaube, ich weiß, wie Du Dich fühlst.

Don't give up. Jesus loves you. He really wants to be your friend. Let Him guide you.

Love, Rose

Vielen Dank für die Antwort. Bin seit langem nicht mehr hierher gekommen aber ich bin noch auf der Suche nach Gott. Dachte mir, das Gefühl, das ich hatte, würde mit der Zeit vergehen, aber das hat es noch nicht getan... Du darfst duzen, ja.

Das mit "das kann nur der Geist Gottes" ist "leider" richtig. Ich habe versucht, vor dem Geist und dem Gefühl davonzulaufen, weil nichts einen Sinn ergab, aber immer wieder befand ich mich auf dem Weg zurück zu Gott.

I suppose we should be speaking in English here or in private if you will.

 

[farouk]

Hello everyone!

I have been for a few years in a weird and self contradictory situation. I am an atheist and no, I have not come here for trolling. I have come to ask you for help. I was brought up Christian, but my parents and I were never that religious. I decided that the Bible was not true and moved on to other beliefs. I kind of went through every new age stuff there is out there.

After a few years I gave up on everything, every belief I had and decided to live only on what I knew for sure. I didn't know God for sure either, so I've been calling myself an atheist ever since. I have read some passages in the bible. Mostly the bad ones. I just can't believe in anything that is in there. Children being killed for disobeying and what not and the whole concept of Jesus paying for our sins instead of God forgiving us without having to torture someone pure and innocent. I just can't accept any of that.

However, after I gave up on all the things I used to believe in, this feeling hit me. I could feel it in my heart, even now while writing this. A few months later, I ran randomly into someone on youtube who kind of made me a believer again. I still couldn't understand why the Bible was the way that it is, but I prayed and asked for forgiveness. That feeling would get stronger and stronger, but after a month or so I gave up again on my belief. I would not even be here if I didn't have that feeling... It gets overwhelming. I feel like some pieces are missing. I feel the need to surrender to God. However, faith doesn't work for me and my mind won't let me have faith in anything. I also doubt prayer works. I don't see any possible way God can intervene and change things only for our sake. It can change you, but it can't change the environment we live in.

I can't even say the words "Praise the Lord" or "God" out loud, but when I listen to songs about Jesus and God I feel pretty happy and feel the need to pray. Once I have done that, I feel weird and self contradictory. I've been living like this for over a year now and I just don't know what to do. I go out and criticize anything related to God, but when this feeling hits me, I go back to Him.

I wanted to create my own God, to imagine mine, so that it wouldn't have anything to do with the Bible or any other religion. I just can't. My heart / feeling is asking for Jesus.

Sorry for the very long post, but I had to get it all out of my head or better said my heart. Any ideas how to either remove that feeling - which I have been trying for so long - or to turn a "doubting machine" like me into a believer, which I now find 100% impossible? :gah

Lieber Mensch,

ich bin durch Deinen Namen auf diesen Thread aufmerksam geworden. Zuerst dachte ich an Herbert Groenemeyers gleichnamiges Album. Hat er nicht dort auch ein Lied für seine verstorbene Frau gesungen? Wunderschönes Lied.

Nun hat mich Deine Glaubensgechichte interessiert. (Darf ich "Du" sagen?)
"To turn a doubting machine into a believer" - das kann nur der Geist Gottes. Wie oben schon gesagt wurde, scheint Er Dich an sich zu ziehen.
Jesus said, "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him." (John6:44)

Weißt Du, Mensch, dass der Teufel versucht, uns von Jesus fernzuhalten? Verstehst Du, dass er mit jedem schönen Erlebnis, das Du mit Gott hast, seine Anstrengungen verstärkt, um etwas Negatives daraus zu machen?
So geht es mir. Ich glaube, ich weiß, wie Du Dich fühlst.

Don't give up. Jesus loves you. He really wants to be your friend. Let Him guide you.

Love, Rose

Vielen Dank für die Antwort. Bin seit langem nicht mehr hierher gekommen aber ich bin noch auf der Suche nach Gott. Dachte mir, das Gefühl, das ich hatte, würde mit der Zeit vergehen, aber das hat es noch nicht getan... Du darfst duzen, ja.

Das mit "das kann nur der Geist Gottes" ist "leider" richtig. Ich habe versucht, vor dem Geist und dem Gefühl davonzulaufen, weil nichts einen Sinn ergab, aber immer wieder befand ich mich auf dem Weg zurück zu Gott.

I suppose we should be speaking in English here or in private if you will.

[MENTION=96202]Mensch[/MENTION]:

Es ist immer wichtig jeden Tag das Wort zu lesen. Wenn Christen vor dem Gnadenstuhl immer kommen, kommt auch das Vorrecht des Segens an. Deshalb ist uns das Bibelesen eigentlich sehr wichtig.

[It's always important to read the Word daily. If Christians come before the Throne of Grace, there is also the privilege of blessing. This is why Bible reading is really important for us.]

 

[Mensch]

Es ist immer wichtig jeden Tag das Wort zu lesen. Wenn Christen vor dem Gnadenstuhl immer kommen, kommt auch das Vorrecht des Segens an. Deshalb ist uns das Bibelesen eigentlich sehr wichtig.

[It's always important to read the Word daily. If Christians come before the Throne of Grace, there is also the privilege of blessing. This is why Bible reading is really important for us.]

I will do that. I will try to at least.